I should point out that that is almost all stop-and-go city driving.

The motivations behind the comparison certainly may be suspect, but the results are hardly moot.

Ford needs to widen the performance gap between the next generation Mustang GT and run-of-the-mill Japanese family sedans once and for all.

THEN it will be a moot comparison, because there will BE no comparison.

 

I'd like to see where you saw V6s running 13s with a CAI and tunes, even gutted. It wasn't until recently that the first 4.0 broke 13s N/A. That took a LOT more than just the simple CAI and tune.

 

Well I'm not worried about any of this. An Accord looks nothing like a Bullitt and sounds nothing like it. The Bullitt blows away the hemi powered Charger, and the Accord might better it to. So what do the Dodge Boys think of an Accord beating a Hemi!!!???

 

Well the Good News is The Bullitt Owners Car will Likely Worth More Than was Paid for it Ten Years down the Road! I doubt we will see too Many Honda accords at Barrett Jackson!

Just a Thought!

kc

 

Don't bank on it. Highly unlikely that the Bullitt will be worth more than what one paid for it 25 years from now. Too many Mustangs out there being put in garages with high survival rates. In fact, the Honda will hold a better near term trade value than the Mustang. Sad, but true. But one thing's for sure: you'll have a lot more fun driving the Bullitt now!!

 

Ummm...have you checked on prices for used GT's lately? Even 2 year old cars with a ton of miles are pulling very good $$.

 

I don't foresee the era of the gas guzzler V8s to last more than a handful of years. If it becomes a reality it will be a determining factor for values. I see the future Mustangs in a similar scenario as in the late 70s when 2.3 4-cylinder turbos where introduced.

 

let's see... if you want 2 more doors, don't need to go as quickly, want more rear seat room, a bigger trunk, lower insurance rates, and don't mind the fact it's a Honda - this car would do nicely. FWIW, I still wouldn't want one.

 

So now every teenager driving his mama's Accord will want to race a Mustang. Is there any car I don't have to endure at stop lights thinking they can hang with me. I'm not racing, get over it. No tickets, knock on wood, and none wanted.

 

a couple of things that might have been mentioned and some that have not:....the accord has a major advantage for performance in the fwd layout, handling, acceleration and fuel economy...having the engine, transmission, and drive wheels all in the same direction is more effecient.

the engine in the accord is 4 valves rather than 3 and this will help with greater output especially in the higher rpms.

the accord has 6 speeds rather than 5 and this definitely helps with the smaller motor in the accord.

on the highway the mileage difference might not be that much between the two, but in around town driving, having 1.1 less liter of displacement and two less cylinders will make a big difference in the numbers for the accord.

give me the bullitt.

jackg
06 sts6

 

is it really that close? didnt someone run a 13.20 in a stock Bullitt?

 

Uhh, yeah, that's why all the high end supercars like Ferraris, Lambos, & the Veyron are all front wheel drive.... err no, wait....

FWD can be more efficient from a passenger space standpoint and ease of assembly on the production line standpoint, but in handling and acceleration, no.

Weight distribution on most FWD cars is usually about 60% front 40% rear. Torque steer can be an issue on FWD. The front tires only have so much traction, and in FWDers, a portion of that traction is used for putting power to the ground, part of it for steering, and part of it for sticking to the ground.

A RWD car's front tires only need to steer and stick to the ground, while the rear tires put the power to the ground and hold the road. A RWD car will have more traction for steering and roadholding than a FWD car will.

Of course FWDers can be engineered to try to over come the inherent disadvantages, but considering everything else equal, a RWD car does have a handling and performance advantage over a FWD car.

It may have 4 valves but that does not change the fact it just does not put out as much horsepower and torque as the 3V 4.6.

 

That's low. I get about 18 in the city and about 26 on the highway. You must be driving extremely short trips in the city or you're stuck in traffic most of the time.

 

Probably a crappy test driver. The Bullitt 13.7 1/4 mile time seems way off.

 

What's really funny is that several Stangs with Vorech superchargers get 28ish!

 

So it really wasn't Motor Trend that made the direct comparison, it was Fireball.

Question is why?

 

Stir the pot?

 

Yeah he sure made me feel bad and wish I had bought a Honda

 

Not necessarily true at face value. Depends on how much the valve moves. A lot of people believe the 3 valve design in the engine in the 2005+ Mustang GT works better than the 4 valve design on the Cobra engine that preceeded it.

+1

 

I'm a salesman for Saint Louis Honda (please, no comments about car salesman) and I love my Mustang. But, day to day, I see the failures of car companies to establish reliability with their brands. Sometimes it seems like you have to choose between the "sports type" car and the "practical, more reliable car". But that doesn't mean that you couldn't have your cake and eat it too.
I'd love to have one of the new Coupe V6 6 speed Accords for my daily driver, and a 2008 Bullitt that I could cruise around with whenever the weather is nice. I'd say that the similarities in numbers just prove that it'd be easy to go back and forth between the two and not have a very noticable change in drivability.
Let's face it, out of all the people buying Bullitts, how many do you think are going to go nuts and make their new collectable into a race machine? Granted, there are a few people out there rich enough to do what they want, with what they want, but not everyone. In short, maybe it's time that all car manufacturers try to capture the same Fun-to-drive essence that is the Mustang, and combine it with the practicality, reliability, and efficiency of the Honda lines, specifically the Accords. Would it kill Ford to put a 6 speed manual into the Mustang as an option? You know the gas mileage would be better!

Oh, and if any of you were persuaded by my post, let me know if you need a car in the St. Louis Area!