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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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But it was still Chevy who won championships.

In the 1980s Ford won no manufacturer's championships and only one driver's championship (Bill Elliott in 1988).
Yep! And right after that Nascar was turning the screws to get Ford out of the spotlight as usual! Nascar should stand for National Association of Stupid Clowns Against Roush ! In my book, they earned that moniker!
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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but Ford won a lot of races and was at the top in technology and power!!!! they're still limited and picked on today if you're in a ford you don't get away with ****!
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 08:43 AM
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Ford doesn't pay nearly as much as GM, so they don't get the preferential treatment.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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Yesterday's race was great! Congrats Ricky, Carl, and Jack!

Today's race will be one for the record books! Go Carl!
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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I was really pulling for you Carl. I hope Carl doesn't become just like my first favorite driver, Mark Martin, always the bridesmaid. So close to so many championships, and just never could close the deal.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 12:44 PM
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I don't think he will. He had a 4.9 average finish in the last 10 races or something like that, which is insane. Tony just wanted it more and was way more aggressive. He went out there and took wins. I think next year Carl is going to step it up.

That said... what an amazing drive for Tony Stewart. Epic.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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I don't think he will. He had a 4.9 average finish in the last 10 races or something like that, which is insane. Tony just wanted it more and was way more aggressive. He went out there and took wins. I think next year Carl is going to step it up.
The last time Carl lost the championship when he was the best driver out there (to Jimmie Johnson in 2008) it took him 3 years to rebound.
I hope we won't have to wait for another 3 years until we see Edwards making a run for a championship again.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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The last time Carl lost the championship when he was the best driver out there (to Jimmie Johnson in 2008) it took him 3 years to rebound.
I hope we won't have to wait for another 3 years until we see Edwards making a run for a championship again.
I think that was more Roush than it was Carl. I think he'll be a contender again next season.
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 03:29 PM
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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Awesome!!!
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Old Nov 23, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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Ford and Mustang brought home the bacon this year!
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang
I think that was more Roush than it was Carl. I think he'll be a contender again next season.
We'll see, it all depends how quickly Edwards can rebound.

I just hope he doesn't end up like Denny Hamlin.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by FAP_Zastava_Ikarbus

We'll see, it all depends how quickly Edwards can rebound.

I just hope he doesn't end up like Denny Hamlin.
Noooooooooo!
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FAP_Zastava_Ikarbus
We'll see, it all depends how quickly Edwards can rebound.

I just hope he doesn't end up like Denny Hamlin.
C'mon man, think positive!


I still dont know how Stewart did it, I mean really no where all year then he wins 5 out of 10 cup races, I say its another Chevy conspiracy... Or, Was he really that good.?.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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For Tony it's gotta be a sweet affirmation to win as an owner and a driver and to know you made the right move to leave Gibbs and Toyota.
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Old Nov 25, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jacostang
C'mon man, think positive!


I still dont know how Stewart did it, I mean really no where all year then he wins 5 out of 10 cup races, I say its another Chevy conspiracy... Or, Was he really that good.?.
I think he was just that good. The final race really summed it up. I've never seen anyone drive a race like that before... it was brilliant.

I think what helped the 14 team was that because they thought they were out of it going in they decided to go all out and go for wins. That meant gutsy calls (the win at Loudon was a fuel mileage gamble) and aggressive driving.

Tony used to be too cautious on restarts, then one day he decided he was just going to drive crazy like everyone else. His restarts at Homestead were incredible.

Everyone else going in that had a legitimate shot at the title took a more conservative approach, IMO. The focus wasn't on maximizing wins, it was on limiting that one bad race. We hear it in the media as the Chase evolved over the years. Everyone was concerned about limiting their bad races, not necessarily going out and winning at all costs.

The 14 team really took a different approach and just edged out Carl at the end. If you think about it, they had at least two real crappy races in the Chase... Dover and another track that I can't remember... both finishes outside of the top 25. Had their luck been better and they walked away with top 10s then the final race wouldn't have been close.

But then again if they held the lead that could have shifted their approach from aggressive to conservative and Carl or someone else might have stepped up to come from behind and win it.
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Old Nov 26, 2011 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang
I think he was just that good. The final race really summed it up. I've never seen anyone drive a race like that before... it was brilliant.
He was little too good during that last race.
I mean, the way he was passing everybody, it seemed like his car has at least 50-100 hp more than everyone else.
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Old Nov 26, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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He was little too good during that last race.
I mean, the way he was passing everybody, it seemed like his car has at least 50-100 hp more than everyone else.
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Old Nov 26, 2011 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FAP_Zastava_Ikarbus
He was little too good during that last race.
I mean, the way he was passing everybody, it seemed like his car has at least 50-100 hp more than everyone else.
He was just being far more aggressive than anyone else on restarts, and after they got going most everyone was playing very nice with him so his passes weren't too difficult.

Remember once he was up front him and Carl were about even. Whoever was out front at the time was generally faster.

I know the Ford guys will probably cry foul, but I think Tony and crew just had the perfect race. The 99 team just wasn't aggressive enough.
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