Camaro best for the mustang?
1/19/13, 03:18 PM
#1
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: September 25, 2012
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Camaro best for the mustang?
Does anybody else agree that when Chevy brought back the camaro it was the best thing for the mustang? I mean do y'all think that we would have the new 5.0 with out it? I just want to thank Chevy for bringing the camaro back. I love seeing the camaro fanboys get mad?
1/19/13, 03:21 PM
#2
Cobra R Member
Join Date: September 22, 2012
Location: Ontario, California
Posts: 1,691
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes
on
17 Posts
I was thinking this exact same thing. Competition always improved the bread. I think that the camaro being such a good car was important too. If the mustang kept outselling the camaro, I would be driving a 4.6 instead of a 5.0.
1/19/13, 07:51 PM
#3
Tasca Super Boss 429 Member
I think the 5.0 would have showed up in the 2014 anyway.
The Camaro just bought it on early.
The Camaro was an obvious choice to re-run because of the fanboys.
It had to happen.
The Camaro just bought it on early.
The Camaro was an obvious choice to re-run because of the fanboys.
It had to happen.
1/20/13, 10:55 AM
#4
legacy Tms Member
i kind of think if it were`nt for the 05 stang there would`nt be a camaro at all ..though i`m not sure when the last maro was built or when they came back ..i just dont pay attention to ugly things ...
1/20/13, 11:46 AM
#6
Post *****
Join Date: December 14, 2007
Location: State of Jefferson Mountains USA
Posts: 20,005
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes
on
4 Posts
And I don't think the 5.0 is that big of a deal from this standpoint - if Ford had put the engineering for better breathing & higher rpm into the 4.6 like they did with the 5.0, would those extra .4 liters/21 cubes mean so much? No.
We've seen what the aftermarket can do with the time tested 4.6 over and over again (without melted #8 piston & chinese transmission problems the '11 & '12 suffered). But the 4.6 had been around a long time in all variations and so while investing in the engineering, to add the 5.0/302 moniker back to the line made more sense than an improved fire breathing 4.6L DOHC 4V.
Last edited by cdynaco; 1/20/13 at 11:54 AM.
1/20/13, 04:40 PM
#7
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: September 25, 2012
Posts: 34
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Funny how when I think of this era of muscle i forget about the challenger. And my buddy has one but it's just an R/T. And I do agree with the 05 mustang point of view I have never thought of it like that. And to the Shelby or zl1 def Shelby but I will take my boss over both any day.
1/20/13, 05:21 PM
#8
Cobra Member
Join Date: September 16, 2012
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,164
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I agree glad their both around, just wish my friend would understand that. He's so diehard Chevy it's crazy, tells me I spent too much on my 13' GT and that I should have just got a used ls1 to go "fast". Thinks his bolt on 02 ss ran with a 550whp terminator. No logic required.
1/20/13, 09:04 PM
#9
Mach 1 Member
Join Date: February 23, 2008
Location: new castle, pa
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Generous Motors bringing back the Shamoomaro was like bringing a knife to a gun fight! Just pitiful! Plagued with workmanship and poor engineering issues just make the Chevy boys that back them look so stupid! Just to buy one after reading the crying over the problems over at Cam5 proves either people live in denial, or people are just a few bricks shy of a full load!
I guess it is best expressed this way.... the Camaro needed to be a lot better than it was to even make a blip on the radar of quality JUST FOR ITS OWN SAKE.... and quit posing like it was such a 'big success' which it surely wasn't! It's just another lump of GM crap that got shoved down the throat of the American tax payer and the blindly loyal swallowed!
I guess it is best expressed this way.... the Camaro needed to be a lot better than it was to even make a blip on the radar of quality JUST FOR ITS OWN SAKE.... and quit posing like it was such a 'big success' which it surely wasn't! It's just another lump of GM crap that got shoved down the throat of the American tax payer and the blindly loyal swallowed!
Last edited by red pony; 1/20/13 at 09:40 PM.
1/20/13, 11:44 PM
#10
2013 RR Boss 302 #2342
Join Date: March 6, 2012
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 11,668
Likes: 0
Received 2,174 Likes
on
1,621 Posts
And also outsold the Mustang...just saying!!! I witnessed a 16 year old that loves my Boss but couldn't help himself but to sit in every Camaro at the Philly car show?!? I asked him why he likes the Camaro so much and he replied it just looks cooler! I made him walk home the SOB!!!
1/21/13, 05:53 AM
#12
Mach 1 Member
Join Date: February 23, 2008
Location: new castle, pa
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
And also outsold the Mustang...just saying!!! I witnessed a 16 year old that loves my Boss but couldn't help himself but to sit in every Camaro at the Philly car show?!? I asked him why he likes the Camaro so much and he replied it just looks cooler! I made him walk home the SOB!!!
1/21/13, 07:04 AM
#13
Banned
I agree. The S197 opened it all up. And Ford kept improving the Mustang regardless of cashamo & challybigbutt coming so as to draw new buyers and keep existing buyers coming back. The 08 Bullitt topped out the 4.6 line and hit the streets before the Chally did.
And I don't think the 5.0 is that big of a deal from this standpoint - if Ford had put the engineering for better breathing & higher rpm into the 4.6 like they did with the 5.0, would those extra .4 liters/21 cubes mean so much? No.
We've seen what the aftermarket can do with the time tested 4.6 over and over again (without melted #8 piston & chinese transmission problems the '11 & '12 suffered). But the 4.6 had been around a long time in all variations and so while investing in the engineering, to add the 5.0/302 moniker back to the line made more sense than an improved fire breathing 4.6L DOHC 4V.
1/21/13, 07:06 AM
#14
Banned
I agree glad their both around, just wish my friend would understand that. He's so diehard Chevy it's crazy, tells me I spent too much on my 13' GT and that I should have just got a used ls1 to go "fast". Thinks his bolt on 02 ss ran with a 550whp terminator. No logic required.
1/21/13, 08:41 AM
#15
Gotta Have it Green Fanatic Official TMS Travel Guide
Does anybody else agree that when Chevy brought back the camaro it was the best thing for the mustang? I mean do y'all think that we would have the new 5.0 with out it? I just want to thank Chevy for bringing the camaro back. I love seeing the camaro fanboys get mad?
1/21/13, 10:39 AM
#16
Bullitt Member
Join Date: September 19, 2009
Location: Greenfield, In
Posts: 433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I was a GM guy back in the 70's, so when I heard they were coming out with a new Camaro I was pretty excited. Mainly to see competition I suppose. But when it came out it was a total disappointment to me. It's just an awful car IMO. I detail one for my neighbor twice a year. Every time I bump my head getting in & out of it I realize just how much nicer my Mustangs are. The interior is cheap looking, & it just feels like a big, bulky car.
1/22/13, 04:14 AM
#17
Gotta Have it Green Fanatic Official TMS Travel Guide
I was a GM guy back in the 70's, so when I heard they were coming out with a new Camaro I was pretty excited. Mainly to see competition I suppose. But when it came out it was a total disappointment to me. It's just an awful car IMO. I detail one for my neighbor twice a year. Every time I bump my head getting in & out of it I realize just how much nicer my Mustangs are. The interior is cheap looking, & it just feels like a big, bulky car.
1/22/13, 08:42 PM
#19
Mach 1 Member
I was a GM guy back in the 70's, so when I heard they were coming out with a new Camaro I was pretty excited. Mainly to see competition I suppose. But when it came out it was a total disappointment to me. It's just an awful car IMO. I detail one for my neighbor twice a year. Every time I bump my head getting in & out of it I realize just how much nicer my Mustangs are. The interior is cheap looking, & it just feels like a big, bulky car.
1/22/13, 08:51 PM
#20
Bullitt Member
Join Date: January 15, 2013
Posts: 394
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I worked for GM and retired from their spin-off, Delphi; I can get their special employee pricing on anything they make, if I choose. I'm not rich, but a Corvette (been there, done that) or a Shelby or a tricked-out Challenger is not beyond my means... I like my Mustang.
no specail pricing on that.