Testing, Help, Site Feedback and Suggestions Test vBulletin's Features and Tell Us What You Like and Don't Like and Offer Suggestions for Improvement

A word about these language filters

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 10:35 PM
  #21  
Hollywood_North GT's Avatar
Thread Starter
Closet American
 
Joined: July 17, 2005
Posts: 5,851
Likes: 1
From: Vancouver, BC (Hollywood North)
Originally Posted by Sendero
"Screw" has multiple meanings. "D-a-m-n" has one meaning. I'll let you draw the conclusions as to why screw is OK and "D-a-m-n" is not.
Very good argument; you're absolutely correct.

But I must point out: so does "D!ck". Why are we usurping THIS word on these forums - thereby denigrating a person's legitimate Christian name - because a few have adopted it in the popular vernacular as a swear word? This is PCness run amok, IMO.

Again, I think Brad said it best: There is no rhyme or reason to these filters - they are part of an indiscriminate template, and therefore largely indefensible.

As I mentioned before, I have no problem with mods blocking the most egregious swear words, and lesser profanity used in personal attacks, but the rest is a slippery slope.

"D-a-m-n" is censored. "Hell" is not. Doesn't make sense. On the other hand, consider >>

"You're a d-a-m-n fool!"

"D-a-m-n" that car looks hot!

One is insulting, one is not. Context is important. Filters aren't smart enough to understand usage or meaning; they should therefore be used sparingly, IMO.

By itself, I do not consider "d-a-m-n" much of a swear word. I think that those who do, need to get out more.

Last edited by Hollywood_North GT; Mar 6, 2008 at 10:38 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:50 PM
  #22  
shatter's Avatar
Mach 1 Member
 
Joined: October 13, 2005
Posts: 965
Likes: 1
From: Northern California
Originally Posted by Sendero
One more datapoint; if your company uses WebSense and we "opened the floodgates" so to speak, guess how long it would take before you'd lose the ability to access TMS at work?
I use VNC to bypass websense at work! I say let the censorship stay, it is not hard for me to get my point across without using swear words. Every once in a while I'd like to throw in a special word but then say, "oh well!" I am all for individual rights but to me this isn't a big deal, it's not like the mods are deleting posts or threads because they don't like the views or content, if that was the case then I'd be raising ****.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 09:09 AM
  #23  
Sendero's Avatar
The Man... keeping you down.
 
Joined: August 15, 2004
Posts: 823
Likes: 1
From: Stealin' ur internetz
Originally Posted by shatter
I am all for individual rights but to me this isn't a big deal, it's not like the mods are deleting posts or threads because they don't like the views or content, if that was the case then I'd be raising ****.
You wouldn't be the only one raising "cain" either. There would be a fair amount of staff on that lynch mob too.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 09:20 AM
  #24  
adrenalin's Avatar
I Have No Life
 
Joined: May 26, 2004
Posts: 10,605
Likes: 2
A never ending debate but you can just blame it on the english language. As Hollywood pointed out, context can change everything, such as the following sentence.

"I can't decide if I should lay you or Jack off."

Now, I'm sure you are thinking, OMG, I can't believe he just said that, but I really don't know if I should lay off Susan or Jack, they are both great employees.
Reply
Old Mar 7, 2008 | 09:39 AM
  #25  
Boomer's Avatar
I Have No Life
 
Joined: January 30, 2004
Posts: 10,446
Likes: 12
From: Canada
You should lay that Jack off
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2008 | 03:20 PM
  #26  
Boltzman's Avatar
GTR Member
 
Joined: April 20, 2005
Posts: 4,660
Likes: 2
From: Tampa,FL
Originally Posted by adrenalin
A never ending debate but you can just blame it on the english language. As Hollywood pointed out, context can change everything, such as the following sentence.

"I can't decide if I should lay you or Jack off."

Now, I'm sure you are thinking, OMG, I can't believe he just said that, but I really don't know if I should lay off Susan or Jack, they are both great employees.
Reply
Old Mar 8, 2008 | 06:21 PM
  #27  
n8rfastback's Avatar
Shelby GT350 Member
 
Joined: June 25, 2007
Posts: 2,416
Likes: 1
Reply
Old Mar 9, 2008 | 11:02 AM
  #28  
1 COBRA's Avatar
AKA 1 BULLITT------------ Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: January 29, 2004
Posts: 7,738
Likes: 361
From: U S A
I favor TMS's side on this subject even though I am not affected whether the filters are in place or not, but it has to be recognized some can't compose a sentence without relying on less than impressive choice of words. English is a beautiful language with many variations to get points across without the reliance of trailer trash slang.

Although, the thought of Brad, Scott, and the MODS doing a Mustang rap video might be interesting...





Last edited by 1 COBRA; Mar 9, 2008 at 11:12 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 06:40 AM
  #29  
Hollywood_North GT's Avatar
Thread Starter
Closet American
 
Joined: July 17, 2005
Posts: 5,851
Likes: 1
From: Vancouver, BC (Hollywood North)
Originally Posted by 1 BULLITT
I favor TMS's side on this subject even though I am not affected whether the filters are in place or not, but it has to be recognized some can't compose a sentence without relying on less than impressive choice of words. English is a beautiful language with many variations to get points across without the reliance of trailer trash slang.

Although, the thought of Brad, Scott, and the MODS doing a Mustang rap video might be interesting...




Dammit, you're right, George! Screw all this bloody, @#&*$% free speech crap and let's raise a ******* glass once again to ***** Cheney!



Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 08:24 AM
  #30  
blkstang06's Avatar
Shelby GT500 Member
 
Joined: October 9, 2006
Posts: 2,757
Likes: 1
From: It's tough in the jungle !
Originally Posted by 1 BULLITT
I favor TMS's side on this subject even though I am not affected whether the filters are in place or not, but it has to be recognized some can't compose a sentence without relying on less than impressive choice of words. English is a beautiful language with many variations to get points across without the reliance of trailer trash slang.

Although, the thought of Brad, Scott, and the MODS doing a Mustang rap video might be interesting...




Although I've never lived in a Mobile home/trailer, I find the term Trailer trash to be far more offensive than most profane slang used . The use of the term shows a total lack of sensitivity for the millions that live in these structures. One thing your post does show is that trash comes in many forms and financial levels, even people that drive GT500's.....

Last edited by blkstang06; Mar 10, 2008 at 08:27 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 08:48 AM
  #31  
2k7gtcs's Avatar
Post *****
 
Joined: October 9, 2007
Posts: 32,808
Likes: 163
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 09:24 AM
  #32  
adrenalin's Avatar
I Have No Life
 
Joined: May 26, 2004
Posts: 10,605
Likes: 2
I personally don't worry about the language filters that much however I do warn those that feel the need to use any trick they can to use words that most would consider unappropriate for this site.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 10:03 AM
  #33  
Knight's Avatar
Needs to be more Astony
 
Joined: October 4, 2004
Posts: 8,610
Likes: 5
From: Volo, IL
Originally Posted by blkstang06
The use of the term shows a total lack of sensitivity for the millions that live in these structures.


Everyone is so darn sensitive. This statement is one of the reasons america is a bunch of .
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 10:51 AM
  #34  
blkstang06's Avatar
Shelby GT500 Member
 
Joined: October 9, 2006
Posts: 2,757
Likes: 1
From: It's tough in the jungle !
Originally Posted by Knight


Everyone is so darn sensitive. This statement is one of the reasons america is a bunch of .
This statement is why America is so Great! Even self appointed intellectuals have the right to dribble out their orifice....Now go do what your momma told yah!.....cut your hair and get a job!.....

Last edited by blkstang06; Mar 10, 2008 at 10:52 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 11:11 AM
  #35  
1 COBRA's Avatar
AKA 1 BULLITT------------ Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: January 29, 2004
Posts: 7,738
Likes: 361
From: U S A
Originally Posted by blkstang06
Although I've never lived in a Mobile home/trailer, I find the term Trailer trash to be far more offensive than most profane slang used . The use of the term shows a total lack of sensitivity for the millions that live in these structures. One thing your post does show is that trash comes in many forms and financial levels, even people that drive GT500's.....
I suppose that should exclude those who drive black '06 GTs, right?


Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 11:15 AM
  #36  
1 COBRA's Avatar
AKA 1 BULLITT------------ Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: January 29, 2004
Posts: 7,738
Likes: 361
From: U S A
Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
Dammit, you're right, George! Screw all this bloody, @#&*$% free speech crap and let's raise a ******* glass once again to ***** Cheney!



Actually TMS is one of the most liberal and tolerant Mustang sites I've come across.

BTW, have you visited IMBOC lately? If you stop by, say hey for me.


Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 11:18 AM
  #37  
blkstang06's Avatar
Shelby GT500 Member
 
Joined: October 9, 2006
Posts: 2,757
Likes: 1
From: It's tough in the jungle !
Originally Posted by 1 BULLITT
I suppose that should exclude those who drive black '06 GTs, right?


Yep!... Your smarter than I thought you where!....
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 11:41 AM
  #38  
1 COBRA's Avatar
AKA 1 BULLITT------------ Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: January 29, 2004
Posts: 7,738
Likes: 361
From: U S A
Originally Posted by blkstang06
Yep!... Your smarter than I thought you where!....
There is usually a good reason why a comment not directed at an individual is taken personal. The language filters have no conflict with intelligence but a lot with lack of manners or common sense. Living in a trailer and being trailer trash are not the same but I can understand and be sympathetic why some would relate the two.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 11:53 AM
  #39  
blkstang06's Avatar
Shelby GT500 Member
 
Joined: October 9, 2006
Posts: 2,757
Likes: 1
From: It's tough in the jungle !
Originally Posted by 1 BULLITT
There is usually a good reason why a comment not directed at an individual is taken personal. The language filters have no conflict with intelligence but a lot with lack of manners or common sense. Living in a trailer and being trailer trash are not the same but I can understand and be sympathetic why some would relate the two.
George, you have a brilliant sense for the obvious!...God bless you!
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2008 | 03:51 PM
  #40  
1 COBRA's Avatar
AKA 1 BULLITT------------ Legacy TMS Member
 
Joined: January 29, 2004
Posts: 7,738
Likes: 361
From: U S A


Thanks for the blessing. Perhaps you can pray for my sensitivity.
Reply



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:09 PM.