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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Last year's disaster on the side of the world, as many previous ones, drew lots of support from many nations. That was great. On the other hand, the USA made headlines by not pledging "enough", even criticized and scrutinized by Americans. That didn't go down to good.

Now the USA has its hands full with it latest catastrophe but to no one's surprise no nation is tripping over another to offer any assistance, not a thing. Not even the old "pretending to reach the back pocket to take out the non-existing wallet to pay for lunch" ploy. It would seem it is our turn to receive some help regardless of who we are but I guess it easier for other nations to turn a blind eye and for us to accept it and say it's OK, otherwise we might be offending those who take our handouts unconditionally.

This is ingratitude at its best. Life's lessons never cease to amaze me.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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you know thats a good point, my dad was saying the same thing recently, and back during the 9/11 incident.

wheres that thing written by that canadian dude who kept on saying how america always helps other countries out, but no one ocmes to their aid when they need it? i remember reading it a while back....
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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Well said George.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by 1 BULLITT@August 31, 2005, 9:29 PM
Last year's disaster on the side of the world, as many previous ones, drew lots of support from many nations. That was great. On the other hand, the USA made headlines by not pledging "enough", even criticized and scrutinized by Americans. That didn't go down to good.

Now the USA has its hands full with it latest catastrophe but to no one's surprise no nation is tripping over another to offer any assistance, not a thing. Not even the old "pretending to reach the back pocket to take out the non-existing wallet to pay for lunch" ploy. It would seem it is our turn to receive some help regardless of who we are but I guess it easier for other nations to turn a blind eye and for us to accept it and say it's OK, otherwise we might be offending those who take our handouts unconditionally.

This is ingratitude at its best. Life's lessons never cease to amaze me.
Awesome George, you're my role model, a beautiful car, a beautiful house, and the best attitude. Awesome, simply awesome
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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The Canadian Red Cross has set up a Hurricane Katrina Relief Fund and is soliciting Funds and Articles.
They are waiting for direction from the American Red Cross before Acting.

Not everyone is sitting on their Hands.
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Old Aug 31, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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Exactly!! Where is everyone! What about all the celebrities? they all rushed to hold benefit concerts for the tsnumi victims..yet i have only heard on Aaron Neville(who is a New Orleans native)mention anything..
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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http://www.al.com/weather/katrina/?youcanhelp.html

I was grabbing a bite last night and saw a flier.......
They are soliciting things the people down there need and have lost- basic care stuff:

Toothbrushes, toilet paper,combs clothing, etc.......
magazines for those in shelters..
water
Baby Wipes -
Beef Jerky/Slim Jims
Energy Bars (Power Bar, etc.)
Powdered Energy/Electrolyte Replacement Drink Mix (Gatorade, etc.)
Personal Hygiene Gear: Disposable Razors, Toothbrush and Tooth Paste


Maybe all of us here at TMS could work something like that out to send down?
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 05:56 AM
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A relief concert is in the works:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168113,00.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/08/31/katr...cert/index.html
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 06:02 AM
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I'm not surprised at all that we aren't receiving any help. I just wish incidents such as this would shift focus back to the USA WITHIN the USA. More focus on ourselves isn't a bad thing.

And there is a benefit concert being organized as I type . .

http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_...t_id=1001052112

http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_...t_id=1001052875
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by k3druid@September 1, 2005, 1:01 AM
The Canadian Red Cross has set up a Hurricane Katrina Relief Fund and is soliciting Funds and Articles.
They are waiting for direction from the American Red Cross before Acting.

Not everyone is sitting on their Hands.
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That's good and we should be grateful. I was mainly referring to other nations' governments. The USA puts away all differences when other countries are in a bind, a courtesy which is usually not returned.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by EleanorsMine@September 1, 2005, 5:51 AM
http://www.al.com/weather/katrina/?youcanhelp.html

I was grabbing a bite last night and saw a flier.......
They are soliciting things the people down there need and have lost- basic care stuff:

Toothbrushes, toilet paper,combs clothing, etc.......
magazines for those in shelters..
water
Baby Wipes -
Beef Jerky/Slim Jims
Energy Bars (Power Bar, etc.)
Powdered Energy/Electrolyte Replacement Drink Mix (Gatorade, etc.)
Personal Hygiene Gear: Disposable Razors, Toothbrush and Tooth Paste
Maybe all of us here at TMS could work something like that out to send down?
so should we all send some goods? im all for helping these people out...


on second thought, maybe it'd be better if us far oww members sent some cash to you closer members and you guys used it to benefit the victims. i dunno, we could have a TMS collection thing thru the TMS store and then we could all send some money Via paypal. Brad and the rest of you guys could in turn buy some food and supplies and things and get that to those needy people. i dont mean to single out any ones person, but we could do the same thing through any one of our southern members.

just a rambling thought
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168129,00.html

Interesting . . .
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by 1 BULLITT@September 1, 2005, 6:25 AM
That's good and we should be grateful. I was mainly referring to other nations' governments. The USA puts away all differences when other countries are in a bind, a courtesy which is usually not returned.
A lot of us have already donated Perhaps the governments are waiting to be approached by President Bush for assistance. The way I look at it is he has yet to send in several troops to stop the looting. 100 military police aren't going to make a dent as far as I can tell. So I am pretty sure the president has not asked for support.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by adrenalin@September 1, 2005, 2:13 PM
A lot of us have already donated Perhaps the governments are waiting to be approached by President Bush for assistance. The way I look at it is he has yet to send in several troops to stop the looting. 100 military police aren't going to make a dent as far as I can tell. So I am pretty sure the president has not asked for support.
Of course most other large countries will attempt to do something. Takes a little time, but it will happen.

The link above mentions France, this link mentions a slew of other countries.

It's not about them not offering, it's more the effect of Bush saying things like "I'm not expecting much from foreign nations because we hadn't asked for it. I do expect a lot of sympathy and perhaps some will send cash dollars. But this country's going to rise up and take care of it." Almost sounds like a matter of pride.

Finally, keep in mind to separate the peoples of those countries from the government. Plenty of people from all over the world have already donated to relief efforts.
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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A lot of us have already donated canada.gif Perhaps the governments are waiting to be approached by President Bush for assistance. The way I look at it is he has yet to send in several troops to stop the looting. 100 military police aren't going to make a dent as far as I can tell. So I am pretty sure the president has not asked for support.
"Nearly 5,000 National Guard troops were mobilized in Louisiana. The military said the number would rise to 21,000 by Friday and 30,000 in the next few days, mostly in Louisiana and Mississippi but also in storm-stricken parts of Alabama and Florida."
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I don't understand why the victims are saying that no one is helping. I sincerely feel for these people, but they must understand that it takes time to organize and transport supplies. The actions of those who are interfering with evacuation and rescue efforts are not exactly helping their situation.

By the way thanks for your donations
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Old Sep 1, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by EleanorsMine@September 1, 2005, 6:59 AM
A relief concert is in the works:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168113,00.html

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/08/31/katr...cert/index.html
thanks!! i will be watching. hopefully some more like this will take place.
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 05:12 AM
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If you all have Publix- I encourage you to shop there.

You can add whatever donation you wish to your grocery bill there as they have started a Katrina relief fund.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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I don't believe it's been mentioned yet in this thread, but Kuwait has offered up $500 million in Hurricane aid. That just goes to show you that not all Arab countries hate the US.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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wow. i hadnt heard that yet. glad to see someone likes us...
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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Not much I know, but at least we are doing something....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4215404.stm
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