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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/appendix_c.pdf

My old base in Willow Grove will be gone.

Not as many closures as I originally thought.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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Thanks been waiting for that.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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The base where my mom works gets 400+ new jobs.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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The base I work at is gaining 2,000+, but the base I am moving to this summer is closing.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by holderca1@May 13, 2005, 9:47 AM
The base I work at is gaining 2,000+, but the base I am moving to this summer is closing.
Maybe you won't be moving to that base?

Hmmm, some of the numbers don't add up. Some bases have far more people than they list. I assume that means some of the units will then be transferred.

Army Depot near me is gaining 355. Cool, more jobs.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:20 AM
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Semi good news for us as just a realignment with 20% reduction. Better than a closing. Gotta be an optimist!
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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base in my town gets....i think somewhere over 2000 new jobs
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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11 closures here in california
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by Zc527@May 13, 2005, 10:25 AM
base in my town gets....i think somewhere over 2000 new jobs
That's where my mom works.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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i couldnt find it on that PDF, but when do these changes go into place? I am assigned to go to Field Training at Ellsword this July, but I see its one of the big losers in terms of people. (losing 3852 people)
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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wait, i just did some research. theres bound to be some major political firefights with this list. Bush has to approve of it by the 23 of Sept, then if he does, it goes to Congress for a vote. How many senators/representatives are going to be happy voting for a base in their homestate to close (therefore losing jobs) and then they'll end up being blamed by the constituents for the unemployment.

I dont think all these bases will close. Even if they do, it wont be for a long long time
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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The list is finalized in September and will take a few years to actually move all the units to different bases.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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Once the final list is determined, it must be done within 6 years.

BTW, I was incorrect earlier, Willow Grove isn't closing. Its a part of the overall facility that is closing.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by mr-mstng@May 13, 2005, 8:51 AM
Maybe you won't be moving to that base?

Hmmm, some of the numbers don't add up. Some bases have far more people than they list. I assume that means some of the units will then be transferred.

Army Depot near me is gaining 355. Cool, more jobs.
I will probably still go, I will just move to where ever they move that orginization.

The numbers on there are just the number of the people gained and lost, has nothing to do with the total number of people they have. For example we have over 17,000 people here at Eglin and the list shows us gaining over 2,000, so we will have a total of 19,000 total after realignment.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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DoD BRAC Recommendations Expected to Save Nearly $50 Billion

Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld announced today that the department’s recommendations to close or realign military facilities in the United States will better position U.S. forces to confront this century’s threats. The recommendation, if fully implemented, will generate an estimated net savings of nearly $50 billion over the next two decades. When combined with the anticipated savings from overseas basing realignments around the world, the projected net savings increases to $64.2 billion.

“Our current arrangements, designed for the Cold War, must give way to the new demands of the war against extremism and other evolving 21st Century challenges,†Rumsfeld said.

The department’s BRAC recommendations, if adopted, would close 33 major bases and realign 29 more.

The BRAC recommendations were developed in a process that began in 2001, with the initiation of a review of how U.S. forces were arrayed overseas. Prospective changes to the department’s global posture were fed into the analysis and recommendations. As a result, forces coming home will return to installations better arrayed to train and deploy for possible contingencies around the world.

The department’s BRAC recommendations were developed by the military services and seven joint cross-service groups in consultation with the combatant commanders. Each recommendation was created under the procedures established in the Base Closure and Realignment Act of 1990, as amended. The BRAC analysis started with the 20-Year Force Structure Plan and the department’s inventory of facilities, and then applied BRAC selection criteria that had been published early in 2004.

These criteria give paramount importance to an installation’s military value. Other considerations included costs of potential savings, and economic and environmental impacts of potential changes. The BRAC analysis used data that was certified accurate in a process monitored by the Government Accountability Office and the department’s inspection and audit agencies.

The department’s BRAC recommendations are intended to:

- Enhance the military’s ability to meet contingency surge or mobilization requirements;

- Retain those installations that have unique capabilities that would be difficult to reconstitute at other locations;

- Consolidate similar or duplicative training and support functions to improve joint war fighting;

- Transform important support functions – including logistics, medicine and research and development – by capitalizing on advances in technology and business practice.

The department’s recommendations will now be reviewed by the BRAC Commission, which will seek comments from the potentially affected communities. As it has in the past four BRAC rounds, the department will assist affected communities in a variety of ways. Department of Defense programs include personnel transition and job training assistance, local reuse planning grants, and streamlined property disposal. The department will join with other federal agencies to offer additional assistance to affected communities.

Once the commission has completed its review, it will present its recommendations to the President. The President must approve and submit the commission’s recommendations to the Congress for review and appropriate action. The entire process is expected to be completed by the end of 2005.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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That's where my mom works.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by mr-mstng@May 13, 2005, 10:29 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/appendix_c.pdf

My old base in Willow Grove will be gone.

Not as many closures as I originally thought.

That stinks. I have a good friend who's a firefighter at Willow Grove AFB.
He just started about two years ago. I hope the transfer him and he's not out of a job
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Old May 13, 2005 | 12:10 PM
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Here's the full report:

http://www.defenselink.mil/brac/pdf/Vol_I_..._2_DOD_BRAC.pdf
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Old May 13, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by holderca1@May 13, 2005, 1:13 PM
Here's the full report:

http://www.defenselink.mil/brac/pdf/Vol_I_..._2_DOD_BRAC.pdf
Thanks.

Sheesh, ya think the DOD could put bookmarks into it so you don't have to page through 400 pages?
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Old May 13, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Not to mention I have no idea how exactly it's organized, I know it's pretty much listed by the losing unit. I had to search to find different bases.
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