18 Yr Old PA Teen Kills 14 Yr Old Parents
11/18/05, 09:30 AM
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Big debate on this case where 18yr old David Ludwid of Lititz, PA, shot and killed 14yr old. Kara Borden's parents in a feud over a secret relationship between the two teens. An amber was put out late in the week for the kidnapping of Kara Borden and the two teens were later found in a persuit by Indiana State Police, where the 14 yr old was un-harmed and the 18yr old was put under arrest for 2 counts of homicide, kidnapping and wreckless endangerment to another person.
What does everyone think about this case?? :scratch:
What does everyone think about this case?? :scratch:
11/18/05, 09:37 AM
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Killing is never right. Should lock him up for life. But, this is a dangerous subject to open up. Very politically charged. So, everyone, be careful. 
11/18/05, 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by GhostTX@November 18, 2005, 11:06 AM
He's legally an adult, do the maximum of what the law allows in PA.
No brainer what would happen if he were tried in Texas.
He's legally an adult, do the maximum of what the law allows in PA.
No brainer what would happen if he were tried in Texas.
Can you say "Change of Venue"?
11/18/05, 11:32 AM
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He should be decently treated, decently fed and clothed, and then decently juiced.
11/18/05, 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by 1 BULLITT@November 18, 2005, 12:35 PM
He should be decently treated, decently fed and clothed, and then decently juiced.
He should be decently treated, decently fed and clothed, and then decently juiced.
11/18/05, 11:44 AM
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Killing is never right. Should lock him up for life. But, this is a dangerous subject to open up. Very politically charged. So, everyone, be careful.
11/18/05, 01:58 PM
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Death penalty. Isn't everyone exposed to this kind of situation, in a story, or TV show, or something? He knew what he was doing, whether it was pre-meditated or not.
Life in prison without parole wouldn't be a bad alternative, though.
Life in prison without parole wouldn't be a bad alternative, though.
11/18/05, 02:01 PM
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Life in Prison w/o Parole is a far worse punishment for someone that young anyway. He'll have lots of time to think about Big Butch, his new husband. 40 years from now, they can celebrate their Anniversary.
11/18/05, 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by JeffreyDJ@November 18, 2005, 3:04 PM
Life in Prison w/o Parole is a far worse punishment for someone that young anyway. He'll have lots of time to think about Big Butch, his new husband. 40 years from now, they can celebrate their Anniversary.
Life in Prison w/o Parole is a far worse punishment for someone that young anyway. He'll have lots of time to think about Big Butch, his new husband. 40 years from now, they can celebrate their Anniversary.
11/18/05, 03:37 PM
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Oh man..this kid is cooked.
They found a video of him talking about killing someone and scoping out the residence.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176039,00.html
They found a video of him talking about killing someone and scoping out the residence.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176039,00.html
11/18/05, 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by Knight@November 18, 2005, 2:44 PM
... I don't think anyone should have the right to kill another person...
... I don't think anyone should have the right to kill another person...
Those who have no regard or respect for other persons' right to live and decide to ends someone's life along with their joys, hopes, and dreams, for whatever reason, can't expect civility with regard to their lives. It's a bit of a contradiction for someone to kill and enjoy it with all the pain it causes and then say "sorry, I made a mistake, be compassionate and spare my life".
Every assurance should be offered to perpetrator of the benefits of his pending reincarnation and rehabilitation. In that order.
11/18/05, 06:09 PM
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I live less than an hours drive from where this happened. I can tell you for as long as I've lived in PA (16 years) there have been no executions that I can remember hearing of.
They have a video of him planning it. They had 54 guns in the house because the familiy are avid hunters so the means were there. Even if PA has the death penalty he will not get it even if the prosecutors go for it because of his age. They will plead it as a "love" crime because of the couple being as young as they were in a physical relationship. Her parents were not happy about it.
Look at the sniper kid in the DC, VA and MD areas. Killed what 16 or 17 people? He didn't get death in VA which is big on the death penalty because of his age and he will not in MD either because they are more conservative thanks to the previous governor.
That town doesn't get much happening if anything at all. Very conservative in the amish coutry area. Now 2 things happened within a week of tis nature
Sorry so longwinded.
They have a video of him planning it. They had 54 guns in the house because the familiy are avid hunters so the means were there. Even if PA has the death penalty he will not get it even if the prosecutors go for it because of his age. They will plead it as a "love" crime because of the couple being as young as they were in a physical relationship. Her parents were not happy about it.
Look at the sniper kid in the DC, VA and MD areas. Killed what 16 or 17 people? He didn't get death in VA which is big on the death penalty because of his age and he will not in MD either because they are more conservative thanks to the previous governor.
That town doesn't get much happening if anything at all. Very conservative in the amish coutry area. Now 2 things happened within a week of tis nature
Sorry so longwinded.
11/18/05, 11:52 PM
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They will plead it as a "love" crime because of the couple being as young as they were in a physical relationship. Her parents were not happy about it.