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Old 3/27/07, 08:44 AM
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THE PRESIDENT: I've just spent quite a while talking to our CEOs of American automobile companies. And I was interested in their take on my goal of reducing gasoline consumption by 20 percent over the next 10 years.
I found it very interesting that by 2012, 50 percent of the automobiles in America will be flex-fuel vehicles. That means that the American consumer will be able to either use gasoline or ethanol, depending upon, obviously, price and convenience. That's a major technological breakthrough for the country. If you want to reduce gasoline usage, like I believe we need to do so for national security reasons, as well as for environmental concerns, the consumer has got to be in a position to make a rational choice. And so I appreciate very much the fact that American automobile manufacturers recognize the reality of the world in which we live and are using new technologies to give the consumers different options.
Right now, most of our ethanol is made from corn. But the federal government is spending a lot of money to try to develop new technologies that will mean that ethanol could be made from wood chips or switchgrass. Part of that request is embedded in a request to the Congress, and I would hope that Congress would move expeditiously on our plan to reduce gasoline usage by 20 percent over the next 10 years. It's in our national security interest that we do this, it's in economic security interest we do it, and all at the same time, it will help us be better stewards of the environment.
And now I'd like to ask these gentlemen to make a few comments.
MR. WAGONER: Yes, I'd just -- from General Motors' perspective, we very much share the President's vision, and we definitely see a path through to both lower oil consumption, lower amounts of imported oil, and fewer carbon emissions. And obviously, a near-term opportunity that we are moving on right now, as the President cited, is flex-fuel vehicles that are powered by E85 ethanol. There are millions on the road today. As a group, we've agreed to double our production by the year 2010, and then have 50 percent of our production E85-capable by the year 2012. This makes a big difference, and there's nothing that can be done which can reduce the curve of growth in imported oil and actually turn it down like using E85, taking advantage of what's there today.
So we look forward to the opportunity to work closely with the administration and Congress to increase the production of ethanol and to improve the distribution. And on the manufacturer's side, we look very, very much forward to playing our role in that process, as well.
MR. MULALLY: Well, I might add to what Rick said, that we at Ford absolutely are supportive of the President's goal, both for energy efficiency and independence, and to be good stewards of our environment.
One of the neat things about the conversation, again, today, on the continuing dialogue that we've had, is being able to -- the United States system to have options and have flexibility. And the fact that we have ethanol solutions today, hybrids coming along, and plus hydrogen and fuel cells and new battery technology, gives some great options to satisfy our need for flexibility, as well as being good stewards of the environment.
So Mr. President, we appreciate the leadership and we look forward to working with you going forward.
MR. LASORDA: Well, DaimlerChrysler, which includes the Mercedes car group, the Freightliner and other truck divisions in the Chrysler group, we've committed, as well, by 2012, to have 50 percent of our production not only in E85, but biodiesel. This Jeep Grand Cherokee here today is going into production as we speak, being shipped from the factory with B5.
So we've very committed to this, as well, and we think this is the answer for America to lower our dependence on foreign oil.
Thank you.
THE PRESIDENT: One of the things that I think it's important for American taxpayers to understand is that we're using some of their dollars to promote new technologies, and we're working with these CEOs and their respective companies to advance new technologies. They're on the leading edge of technological change, and it's in our interest to help promote these new technologies that are coming to the market.
And I'm excited about the future. I'm optimistic we can meet our goal. I look forward to working with Congress to do so, and I appreciate you all coming today.
Thank you. END 11:16 A.M. EDT
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He really does not care, it would get into his profit in oil that he is into.
This is all just for show.
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Originally Posted by boomerman
He really does not care, it would get into his profit in oil that he is into.
This is all just for show.
knock it off man.

So you don't support the war, fine. But there are a lot of good things that Bush and the republican party stand for.

It takes time for transitions to happen and moving to E85 would be a great step for the united states.
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It would cut into my profits as well. Have you checked the mutual funds that are in some your 401K. You may find that you are invested in oil companies as well.
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Originally Posted by Knight
knock it off man.

So you don't support the war, fine. But there are a lot of good things that Bush and the republican party stand for.

It takes time for transitions to happen and moving to E85 would be a great step for the united states.
I'm with ya, man. It's been an all out full-court press by the Bush haters to politicize every issue. No good deed goes unpunished.
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Originally Posted by Knight
knock it off man.

So you don't support the war, fine. But there are a lot of good things that Bush and the republican party stand for.

It takes time for transitions to happen and moving to E85 would be a great step for the united states.
War? Did I say anything about the war?


Sorry if the truth hurts your feelings but all of the government is being paid off by big oil companies, it does not matter what party they are affliated with be it democrat, republican, or what ever thrid party it may be.

The fact is as long as big oil keeps filling the politicians wallets there will be no change in fuel alternatives.

NO one party is better or worse than the other, they are all crooks!!


Yes you are correct it is going to take time to change to alternative fuels but as long as big oil has anything to do with it it will not happen in my lifetime, they will keep blocking any advancement to keep them from loosing their profits.
They are NO better than the crack dealer because of our addiction to oil.
They have us by the ***** and they know we can not do anything about it.
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Originally Posted by boomerman
The fact is as long as big oil keeps filling the politicians wallets there will be no change in fuel alternatives.
What? No change. Look at all the changes that have happened in the past 10 years alone.

There are more stations in the country now selling E85 then ever before, there are 100s of thousands cars on the road that support the fuel.

Even if politicians were getting paid to keep oil here, you can't stop muli million consumers from chosing what they want.

And if E85 or some other alternate fuel was available near me why wouldn't i use it?
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And who said oil companies pay politicians.

Show me proof, and I'll believe. Bush does not count.
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And who said oil companies pay politicians.

Show me proof, and I'll believe. Bush does not count.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/11/...forts-pay-off/

http://www.publicintegrity.org/oil/report.aspx?aid=345

http://www.sunlightfoundation.com/node/460
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Lest we foget that President Bush used a private Halliburton (oil + mining services) plane rent-free during much of the 2000 election.
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Way to go oil companies, you have just corrupted a govt that was supposed to be "ruled by the (regular) people"
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regular people still have a say. Because companies need us to succeed and if they do whatever will make them money. So the power ultimatly comes tothe regular people...
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What I meant is that we regular people want oil companies to be highly taxed, however the OC use their money to bribe senator not to pass the bills.

100% Genuine Corruption

And I thought Mexico was bad
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Problem is, current ethanol production requires large amounts of fossil fuel, so can't see any "real savings" going that route. And I find it funny that the Detroit automakers are trying to fight proposed fuel economy increases in the near future.
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anyone know what the correct percentage of ethenol is in E85? This is two quotes from GMs website.

"E85, which consists of 85 percent gasoline and 15 percent ethanol."

"E85 ethanol is composed of 85 percent ethanol and just 15 percent petroleum."

I think General Motors is a little confused.
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Originally Posted by Knight
anyone know what the correct percentage of ethenol is in E85? This is two quotes from GMs website.

"E85, which consists of 85 percent gasoline and 15 percent ethanol."

"E85 ethanol is composed of 85 percent ethanol and just 15 percent petroleum."

I think General Motors is a little confused.
I believe the second quote is correct.
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polotics are whack......we're put in the situation where we have the "power to vote"........yeh for one of the two or three ******** running. sounds fair to me. Until we actually elect are regular person, not some rich upper class idiot who doesn't know the first thing about the other 99% of this country who aren't super rich and have yachts and own oil companies, we will continue to see our "leaders" run this country how THEY want, not us.

sorry for the rant, i just really hate polotics......not bush in particular but the whole thing in general
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Politics suck
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Originally Posted by codeman94
Politics suck
Yeah, they do. Why don't we keep them out of the automotive threads and keep them in the off-topic section where they belong?
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BECAUSE THIS THREAD GOT OFF TOPIC THAT'S WHY

THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT FORD GOING FLEX FUEL

Rant over

I probably shouldhave stopped the offtopicness a long time ago


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