This is really impressive.

Nurbergring time: 7:25

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/08/n...tun-observers/

 

wow...that is indeed something

 

That is an INSANE time!! Lap time is better than the Pagani Zonda F Clubsport by a full 2 SECONDS!! And that car has the record for production car around the 'Ring! I dislike imports, but I gotta give credit where credit is due! INCREDIBLE, SIMPLY INCREDIBLE!!!

 

Move over Corvette, we got new best performance car for its price.

 

i wonder how well it would do if you removed all the computer assisted crap and just simply had an engine and driver...like oh say the Zonda or Corvette?

Oh and since we are cleaning up the car..lets put a new body on it because the designers were clearly asleep at the wheel.

I'm sorry but i have such a lack of enthusiasm..this car has no soul.....hell a yugo has more soul than this thing. Gimme the AM RS anyday..even with the crazy pricetag

 

You have a point there.

 

Dont they only come in automatic also?

 

DSG auto.

I agree with doug, it sucks seeing the car performing so well when the design of the car is so far lacking.

 

I think it looks pretty good....not the best but certainly sharp looking. As for all the computers in it helping you drive it, I gotta say its pretty amazing what they can do with a car now. But personally, I'd rather see what "I" could do with a car.....I think Jeremy Clarkson described it when he was talking about old super cars VS new ones, and why he liked the F40 over the Enzo. "Its just road, seat, ***.....the end."

 

Impressive yes. But you would never catch me paying that pricetag for a car that has to call home to go fast. apparently the car is speed limited unless the GPS detects that you are on an approved track... and after you are done if you don't take it to a dealer for an inspection within 24-48 hours your warranty is void.

 

Exactly, what I said on the other thread with the Porsche, Corvette, and GTR comparo. It would be interesting to see how well it would do as a "pure" driver's car without all the electronic nannies. Still, have to give respect where respect is due.

 

I'm of two minds about Corvette vs GT-R. On the one hand the various C6 specs have serious on-road ability, on the other 90% of the driving public will never get more than 90% of that to show. The GTR is a ton uglier and holds your hand while driving, but alot more people will get alot better numbers out of it.

Eh, nuts to them both. I prfer the Aston method of tuning: exceptional handling that gives you the ability to do what you want with the car, but just enough off optimum that you feel like you're actually accomplishing something behind the wheel.

 

Are you serious? Thats just ridicules. What we wanna do with a car after we buy it is our buisness. If it was a rental or a lease thats one thing. Another example of big brother over your shoulder, and a manufacturer trying to tell us what to do with OUR cars. Didnt a guy sue a rental car agency for tracking his speed and won? I found this story http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3072637/

Hmm maybe next the car wont even start if it THINKS you've been drinking or are upset!

 

I couldn't care less how fast a computer can drive .
And BM's right, its not pretty either

Then throw in the restrictions about where you can drive fast, the however many thousand dollar post track inspection, the price tag, the lack of a conventional manual transmission and you have a car thats expensive to buy, and a ***** to own.

I'll keep my II

 

+1 to pretty much everything in this thread.

Definitely worth a lot of respect on the track, but with all the hoops, and all the electrical gremlins that are sure to surface, I think nissan mightve ruined a good thing.

 

if you go to Motor Trend and click on the First Test Drive, they have an in depth video review of the GT-R, I think this is it here.
http://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtes...st_first_drive

Now onto that, I WAS impressed by how much control the car has over its own dynamics, its actually mind-boggling how well the car can control itself. There's 3 switches on the dash you can press/depress for different functions for the car's performance alone. They got 0-60 in 3something seconds, and quarter mile in over 11 seconds, impressive indeed.

With that said, after a couple mins watching the review, I lost all interest when I saw how much the car was doing all the driving. One of the most exciting things about having a sports car, muscle car, exotic car is learning to drive it. There's a certain nostalgia that clicks in your chest when you can get that perfect launch at 3k and the wheels just hug the pavement and you pull off your best 60 foot. There's something about punching it in a turn, knowing just the point when your car wants more or wants to let go. There's something about letting out a large body of smoke from your rear tires, while your front ones sit there and watch. There's something about down-shifting to 3rd gear and landing just in the power band's sweet spot and hearing the engine roar as your car thrusts through the 100mph speed range.

There's a large angle of excitement that you lose from a car like this, in my personal opinion. And while this car may actually be a ground-breaking car from a technology and performance standpoint, it lacks heart, and I will take a Z06 over it any day.

 

+1 on that

 

sadly they say this is taking the ZR-1 now too they clocked the vette at 7:40 and this beast ran a 7:25... to bad its design is completly crap.... it might be fast as hell but when it's that ugly they'd have to drop the price a TON for me to want it.

 

While the GT-R is certainly no looker, it is a goer and deserves due respect for going so well. Some may gripe about all the electronic helpmates used to achieve that performance, bear in mind that pretty much every modern car, Mustang included though perhaps not the Lotus Elise/Exige, have a multitude of control enhancements too, from power steering, brakes, traction control, ABS, etc., that all help them perform better too.

Is there a line between enough enhancements and too much, where the driver becomes an isolated passenger? Perhaps, though I'm not sure the GT-R quite brooks that thresh hold. But perhaps it would be nice to have an Elise in the garage too in order to refresh ones purist needs after a spin in the GT-R.

 

Cars with that much electronics should be banned from certain race classes. If Chevy or ford wanted to put all kinds of sensors and computers into the car to take over much the driving duties, they would probably have as fast if not faster cars. Imports have ALWAYS tried to compensate with technology.