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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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Motor Trend Car of the Year: Toyota Camry

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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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considering that there was no competition this year its not a suprise they go with the craptacular Camry
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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How can a Kia Rondo and a Mercedes S-Class be in the same category?

Staffers at the magazine evaluated the vehicles on their innovation in engineering, design, safety and technology; their performance and quality; and whether the vehicle delivers value to the consumer.
Well, if the S-Class was one of the competitors, can anyone tell me in which of these categories is it not the best of the bunch?! And don't say value, because no other brand retains its value like a Mercedes. Or is it different in the US?
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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They're not in the same category.
Only requirement is that vehicles are all, or significantly, new during the model year.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 06:56 PM
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And don't say value, because no other brand retains its value like a Mercedes. Or is it different in the US?
It's different in the US. Mercedes have lost their luster in North America over the past few years due to some of the poorest quality and reliability ratings in the industry.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Mercedes poor quality and reliability?
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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considering that there was no competition this year its not a suprise they go with the craptacular Camry
I'm sorry, that car really DOES look crappy. It's like a mix between extremely boring and very ugly. I actually used to kinda like the Camry, too, but that's just awful.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 11:18 PM
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Well its not quite worthy of a "" smiley, simple because it has so little in the way of style that there is no bad styling to criticize.

I will never give one a second look on the road.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 01:48 AM
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Mercedes poor quality and reliability?
Well, if you believe Consumer Reports.

Actually, it's pretty much common knowledge nowadays that Mercedes ain't what they used to be.

But I'm gonna assume that you already knew all of this and were just being sarcastic.

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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 02:10 AM
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1966 Car of The Year: Oldsmobile Toronado
1967 Car of The Year: Mercury Cougar
1968 Car of The Year: Pontiac GTO
1969 Car of The Year: Plymouth Road Runner
1970 Car of The Year: Ford Torino


2003 Car of The Year: Infiniti G35
2004 Car of The Year: Toyota Prius
2005 Car of The Year: Chrysler 300
2006 Car of The Year: Honda Civic
2007 Car of the Year: Toyota Camry


The times they are a-changin'... and not in a good way, IMO.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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well it looks boring to me. they avaloned it a little to make it look less cheap and i'm not a hater of them.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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Tuck Foyota!
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SteelTownStang
Tuck Foyota!
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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this is from any reference point that you look at it.

Motor Trend give me a break, Detroit has stopped believing you since you drove a prototype Edge and said it was a production.

YOU MAKE ME SICK
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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Tuck Foyota!
PLUS ONE!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Just the latest big bowl o' crap From "Transportation Appliance Trend". BTW, Toyota makes nothing but soulless cars-just a bunch of auto parts flying in formation (Yes, I know that they do so extremely well - but you could tell me their cars could crap nickels and I still wouldn't buy one!)
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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The satun aura should of won.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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No way. No Saturn should win anything, ever. Seriously it drives like crap.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 04:00 AM
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It's different in the US. Mercedes have lost their luster in North America over the past few years due to some of the poorest quality and reliability ratings in the industry.
Well, it seem that the Germans' opinion differs:

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/05/05/m...bility-report/

Mercedes tops reliability report

Posted May 5th 2006 12:24PM by Joel Arellano
Filed under: Car Buying, Maintenance, Mercedes Benz
According to the German automotive association ADAC, Mercedes-Benz vehicles are the most reliable among the German brands. The C-Class, CLK-Class, E-Class, M-Class, S-Class, and the SLK-Class all took top spots in the association's latest report, more than any other German automaker. The ADAC was especially impressed with the C-Class (pictured). This is particularly surprising considering the quality troubles Mercedes-Benz has had to deal with the last few years.

[Source: Canadian Driver]


Somehow I tend to give much more credit to the ADAC report over any Consumer Reports survey, especially when the German report is based - inter alia - on the opinions of all German car manufacturers.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Louie
Well, it seem that the Germans' opinion differs:

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/05/05/m...bility-report/

Mercedes tops reliability report

Posted May 5th 2006 12:24PM by Joel Arellano
Filed under: Car Buying, Maintenance, Mercedes Benz
According to the German automotive association ADAC, Mercedes-Benz vehicles are the most reliable among the German brands. The C-Class, CLK-Class, E-Class, M-Class, S-Class, and the SLK-Class all took top spots in the association's latest report, more than any other German automaker. The ADAC was especially impressed with the C-Class (pictured). This is particularly surprising considering the quality troubles Mercedes-Benz has had to deal with the last few years.

[Source: Canadian Driver]


Somehow I tend to give much more credit to the ADAC report over any Consumer Reports survey, especially when the German report is based - inter alia - on the opinions of all German car manufacturers.
You don't think that just maybe that the Germans are "supporting their own" in that review? Follow the money and see who funds/supports the German automotive association.

It isn't just Consumer Reports that has downgraded Mercedes. JD Powers has as well. Plus I know a few people who have owned them recently and say, "never again."
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