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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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First off....this may be common knowledge, but I didn't know it. So act surprise if you already knew.

And apparently, this works for all cars with a remote keyless entry....not just the 05 stang.

If you lock your keys in the car and your vehicle is equipped with a remote entry, you can call the person who has the second fob to your car. Have them push the unlock button while holding it close to their cell phone. You hold your cell phone close to the car and it will unlock the car. also rolls down the window and locks the car.

I was very skeptical...but the receptionist and I just tried it. I left my FOB with her and ran down to my car....very far away. called her, she hit the unlock button on my car and the car unlocked.

potential security issue?


What if you get up to go to the bathroom at work, and two crooks know where you kept your keys at your desk and knew what car you drove. One pushes the unlock button on your keys while the other is outside on his cell phone next to your car. all valuables gone in your car...and your keys never left your desk.




don't believe me? try it....
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Very interesting enough :scratch:. I do see a potential security issue though. Think Ford knew about this or is it just a flaw . ?

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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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like I said, its not just Fords that do it....any car with a remote keyless entry system.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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That is so wierd. A friend of mine told me about this at work last week and I tried it when I got home. It worked when I was in the back yard, but I wasn't sure if I was far enough away. I havn't had the time to try it from farther away yet. You just confirmed it, though. At least now I don't have to worry about locking my keys in the car.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Is this Ford inexpensive version of ONSTAR?
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by bigfoot1141@July 27, 2005, 7:30 PM
Is this Ford inexpensive version of ONSTAR?
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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I don't think it's much of a security issue. I mean if someone knows where you keys are, and they have access to them, and they know where your car is, they don't need a fob to break in cause they have the keys and and are already half way to Dairy Queen!!!
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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the cheap version of onstar
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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I've tried this a couple times with no success.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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That story is old news (not necessarily on this forum, just in general, for all cars).

The theory has been disproven - it's all a simple matter of different, incompatible frequencies between the keyfob and cellular phones.

Here's the full explanation:

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Comments: Comforting though it may be to imagine you can unlock your car door in an emergency by receiving a distant signal via your cell phone, it can't possibly work — not with the technology as it now stands, at any rate.

Here's why:

Your remote car key operates by sending a weak, encrypted radio signal to a receiver inside the automobile, which in turn activates the door locks.

Since the system works on radio waves, not sound, the only conceivable way a signal from your spare remote could be picked up by one cell phone and relayed to your car's onboard receiver by another would be if both phones were capable of sending and receiving at exactly the same frequency as the remote itself — which they can't be, given that all remote entry devices operate at frequencies between 300 and 500 MHz, while all mobile phones, by law, operate at 800 MHz and higher.

It's apples vs. oranges, in other words. Your cell phone can no more transmit the type of signal needed to unlock a car door than your remote key is capable of dialing up your Aunt Mary ... though no one can predict what miracles the future may bring.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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I can't believe anyone would believe this.

SurfnSoCal, think about it. You said you gave the fob to your receptionist and than RAN DOWN to the car. How far away were you, 25-30 yards?

One guy tried it from his back yard? C'mon.

Your key fob works on RF, radio frequency. You can't transmit radio waves over a cell phone, which is an audio device.

Thats like saying I'll plug an extension cord into a walkie talkie and see if I can transmit power to the other guy two miles away with a receiver.

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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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I was gullible enough to try this once... anyone find anything on snopes about this?
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by SurfnSoCal@July 27, 2005, 6:20 PM
First off....this may be common knowledge, but I didn't know it. So act surprise if you already knew.

And apparently, this works for all cars with a remote keyless entry....not just the 05 stang.

If you lock your keys in the car and your vehicle is equipped with a remote entry, you can call the person who has the second fob to your car. Have them push the unlock button while holding it close to their cell phone. You hold your cell phone close to the car and it will unlock the car. also rolls down the window and locks the car.

I was very skeptical...but the receptionist and I just tried it. I left my FOB with her and ran down to my car....very far away. called her, she hit the unlock button on my car and the car unlocked.

potential security issue?
What if you get up to go to the bathroom at work, and two crooks know where you kept your keys at your desk and knew what car you drove. One pushes the unlock button on your keys while the other is outside on his cell phone next to your car. all valuables gone in your car...and your keys never left your desk.


don't believe me? try it....
yeah, and monkeys will fly out my keister...lol
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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Yeah... next thing you know, people will claim you can roll down your windows with the remote
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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http://www.snopes.com/autos/techno/keyless.asp

Read.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by RMac@July 27, 2005, 8:26 PM
Yeah... next thing you know, people will claim you can roll down your windows with the remote
: Oh gosh... stop it, it hurts...
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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ok, you guys don't seem to understand-\


I ran down to my car...which was on the other side of a building, and at the other end of the parking lot (where no one parks). about a good 5-7 min. walk. anyone else been able to unlock their cars from this distance while looking at the car?

try while sitting in an office building.

also, I told her to keep pushing the unlock button 3 seconds after she hung up the phone. car stayed locked.


it does work....it worked for me. I used a Motorola v600.

don't know what to tell you doubting thomas's.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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I read the snopes thing...


ok fine...April Fools.



maybe it was a fluke.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Hey Surfin, like I said I've tried it before... and it did actually work once for me too. However I was 'only' a hundred yards away, and I couldn't get it to work ever again. So who knows?
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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Your office could be near a radio device (or radio tower) which could boost the signal (and therefore the range).

Sorry... it's just not possible for the cell phone to do it. Chalk it up to coincidence.
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