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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 12:08 PM
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Holden Ute and Sports wagon to US

Ok the ute and the sports wagon might be coming to the US.
Good news as far as I'm concerned. I'd love to have an HSV ute as long as they don't mcuk up the nose like they did with the GTO.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...merica-101692/



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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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I find it very hard to believe that they're gonna sell a ute and a station wagon when there is no market for either one. It will most likely be just a sedan.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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I find it very hard to believe that they're gonna sell a ute and a station wagon when there is no market for either one. It will most likely be just a sedan.
I agree. I want both a Ute and the Wagon, what will sell in the US? Neither.

Sorry El Camino, maybe another day.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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Yeah it probably wont happen be I'd loved it if it did.
I do find it intesting that this "document" even mentions the ute and wagon and goes so far as to give them ID numbers.

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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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I'll be fairly concerned about GM if they DO bring the ute and wagon over. How much time and money will that project absorb, when they are having to HEAP incentives on their lineup to come in second to Ford in sales.
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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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A Ute and Wagon would be the coolest elements of their Zetas.

Sedan? Nice but predictable.

Wagon?
With the 400+hp V8? Can we say poor man's Cadillac CTS-V wagon! For the family man desiring muscle car performance, GT car dynamics paired with SUV practicality. I see nothing but win here.

Ute? That would bend the needle over the limiting pin on my Cool-O-Meter. No market here for a Ute? Who knows cause there's no vehicle like it here. This would be a perfect complement to the wagon by combining muscle car performance, GT car dynamics paired with pickup utility. Even more win here!

All this presuming Americans are open-minded enough to see all this obviousness (not a given).

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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rhumb
A Ute and Wagon would be the coolest elements of their Zetas.

Sedan? Nice but predictable.

Wagon? With the 400+hp V8? Can we say poor man's Cadillac CTS-V wagon! For the family man desiring muscle car performance, GT car dynamics paired with SUV practicality. I see nothing but win here.

Ute? That would bend the needle over the limiting pin on my Cool-O-Meter. No market here for a Ute? Who knows cause there's no vehicle like it here. This would be a perfect complement to the wagon by combining muscle car performance, GT car dynamics paired with pickup utility. Even more win here!

All this presuming Americans are open-minded enough to see all this obviousness (not a given).

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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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Wagon?
With the 400+hp V8? Can we say poor man's Cadillac CTS-V wagon! For the family man desiring muscle car performance, GT car dynamics paired with SUV practicality. I see nothing but win here.
Decision by Volvo to stop selling wagons in the USA pretty much tells us that wagon market does not exist (Volvo was a leader in wagon sales for a long time). People buy small SUVs/Crossovers or minivans instead.
Remember Dodge Magnum? Didn't last very long on the market.

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Ute? That would bend the needle over the limiting pin on my Cool-O-Meter. No market here for a Ute? Who knows cause there's no vehicle like it here. This would be a perfect complement to the wagon by combining muscle car performance, GT car dynamics paired with pickup utility. Even more win here!
Again, same as wagons - there are no utes because nobody buys them. There's a reason why Ranchero and El Camino went out of business.
Anyone remember Pontiac G8 ST? It got canceled even before it went to the market.
You get no interior space, barely any bed space, no payload capacity, no towing capacity ... Take seats down in a sedan and you'll get more space than in a ute's bed.
Most of people who need bed space will buy a truck because you can still get a 4 door with plenty of space and payload and towing capacity.

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Old Mar 29, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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You're probably right, which unfortunately probably says more about American myopia than any weaknesses in a Zeta wagon or Ute. My prediction though is that SUVs and pickups have become soooooo overplayed, i.e., zero status or style value anymore, that the market would be open to some functional counterpoints to them.

The G8s sadly couldn't have been introduced at a worse time nor been more poorly advertised, two things even its inherent awesomeness couldn't overcome.

Volvo really sort of gave up on the V70 wagon by drinking the SUV coolaid, although they still have the Crosscountry model, which is nothing but a butched up wagon.

I still contend they make far more sense for the majority of buyers of SUVs and pickup trucks than clumsy, gas swilling SUVs or clumsy, gas swilling pickups, both of which have long ago lost any lifestyle cache (SUVs as the manly man's retort to minivans and pickup trucks as some sort of anti-chic statement).

If I were GM, I would definitely have an Astroturf option for the bed of the UTE, just for the humor if nothing else.

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Old Mar 30, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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I would buy a ute
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