The GTO is officially dead
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Galaxie @ February 22, 2006, 10:08 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I agree with others that the achillies heel of the GTO was the name and the price.
The styling was way too "jelly bean" to be called a GTO. While the look was clean, not unlike the early GTO's, it lacks any real character at all. Had the car had a little more of a boxy, "chiselled" appearance, it would deserve the name.
Hopefully Pontiac can do it right on the second time around, be it called a GTO or a Firebird. They have to differentiate it from the future Camaro. Keep the pontiac version upscale with higher-end options and features that won't be available on the blue-collar Camaro. HID's, NAV, etc.
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GM may not make it back with a GTO/Firebird or even Camaro.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/10/news/fortu...tlook/index.htm
I agree with others that the achillies heel of the GTO was the name and the price.
The styling was way too "jelly bean" to be called a GTO. While the look was clean, not unlike the early GTO's, it lacks any real character at all. Had the car had a little more of a boxy, "chiselled" appearance, it would deserve the name.
Hopefully Pontiac can do it right on the second time around, be it called a GTO or a Firebird. They have to differentiate it from the future Camaro. Keep the pontiac version upscale with higher-end options and features that won't be available on the blue-collar Camaro. HID's, NAV, etc.
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GM may not make it back with a GTO/Firebird or even Camaro.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/10/news/fortu...tlook/index.htm
As I understand it, the new camero is to be a GTO chasis and power train with a new skin. So if they reintroduce the camero, what use would they have for it? I'm sure pontiac will get a new firebird which will be a rebadged camero with possibly some pontiac styling flair.
Plus wasn't the manaro on the way out anyway?
The car didn't sell so well because it was a bit pricey for the type of people it was marketed to. The GTO name really does conjur up images of a big cool looking car with a beak and chrome trim of yesteryear when what we got was a cleaner looking grand prix looking car. I think they look nice but lack any testosterone in it's styling.
Plus wasn't the manaro on the way out anyway?
The car didn't sell so well because it was a bit pricey for the type of people it was marketed to. The GTO name really does conjur up images of a big cool looking car with a beak and chrome trim of yesteryear when what we got was a cleaner looking grand prix looking car. I think they look nice but lack any testosterone in it's styling.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Thunder Road @ February 22, 2006, 3:10 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
GM may not make it back with a GTO/Firebird or even Camaro.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/10/news/fortu...tlook/index.htm
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(official_style @ February 22, 2006, 12:56 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
i love f-bodies! i almost bought an 02 trans am ws6 instead of the stang. i love the look of them in black, it is one of the meanest looking cars, with the headlights up or down.
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Never cared for that body style myself; but there are lots of people who seem to remember them fondly; go figure.
GM may not make it back with a GTO/Firebird or even Camaro.
http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/10/news/fortu...tlook/index.htm
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(official_style @ February 22, 2006, 12:56 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
i love f-bodies! i almost bought an 02 trans am ws6 instead of the stang. i love the look of them in black, it is one of the meanest looking cars, with the headlights up or down.
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Never cared for that body style myself; but there are lots of people who seem to remember them fondly; go figure.
Ok we have said our goodbyes to the GTO. I think we have made some good points, good car, bland body, no ties to originals, wrong name. great engine and interior. It is always sad to see a performance car be discontinued.
Now more important subject..
Where will this 04-06 Austrailian GTO fit into automotive history??
Will it be a vauluable collector car , another Buich Grand National, or be forgoten and cast aside by future collectors? Do you think anyone will be buying one and holding it for future value? What would a mint or new one be worth 20 years down the road?
My personal opinion, they made too many to be very collectable, good engine, might se some moded out or take the engines out and use in other cars, but I doubt this car will get any more popular as time passes
Now more important subject..
Where will this 04-06 Austrailian GTO fit into automotive history??
Will it be a vauluable collector car , another Buich Grand National, or be forgoten and cast aside by future collectors? Do you think anyone will be buying one and holding it for future value? What would a mint or new one be worth 20 years down the road?
My personal opinion, they made too many to be very collectable, good engine, might se some moded out or take the engines out and use in other cars, but I doubt this car will get any more popular as time passes
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nynvolt @ February 22, 2006, 6:19 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
As I understand it, the new camero is to be a GTO chasis and power train with a new skin. So if they reintroduce the camero, what use would they have for it? I'm sure pontiac will get a new firebird which will be a rebadged camero with possibly some pontiac styling flair.
Plus wasn't the manaro on the way out anyway?
The car didn't sell so well because it was a bit pricey for the type of people it was marketed to. The GTO name really does conjur up images of a big cool looking car with a beak and chrome trim of yesteryear when what we got was a cleaner looking grand prix looking car. I think they look nice but lack any testosterone in it's styling.
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As I understand it, the new camero is to be a GTO chasis and power train with a new skin. So if they reintroduce the camero, what use would they have for it? I'm sure pontiac will get a new firebird which will be a rebadged camero with possibly some pontiac styling flair.
Plus wasn't the manaro on the way out anyway?
The car didn't sell so well because it was a bit pricey for the type of people it was marketed to. The GTO name really does conjur up images of a big cool looking car with a beak and chrome trim of yesteryear when what we got was a cleaner looking grand prix looking car. I think they look nice but lack any testosterone in it's styling.
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vyto, where have you been for all this time?
I remember talking to you way back when before everyone had to re-register 2 years ago. All i remember is you getting your firebird and then disappearing till lately?
I remember talking to you way back when before everyone had to re-register 2 years ago. All i remember is you getting your firebird and then disappearing till lately?
I cannot say that I am surprised. I am deeply saddened, though. The GTO was a good car. not the best looking, but still good. Well, looks like the Mustang is left to whip on Chargers til '09. and I somehow doubt we'll see the 2010 Camaro, given GM's current state. And, if the GTO returns, we can only pray they get it right..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pilot1129 @ February 23, 2006, 9:50 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
vyto, where have you been for all this time?
I remember talking to you way back when before everyone had to re-register 2 years ago. All i remember is you getting your firebird and then disappearing till lately?
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Still drivin the bird. Busy as heck, been thru 2 more g/f's, just got dumped day after valentine's. Her work got too busy, no time for me.... go figure. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img] Didn't even show any emotions about losing me after seeing me for a year! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nonono.gif[/img]
vyto, where have you been for all this time?
I remember talking to you way back when before everyone had to re-register 2 years ago. All i remember is you getting your firebird and then disappearing till lately?
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Still drivin the bird. Busy as heck, been thru 2 more g/f's, just got dumped day after valentine's. Her work got too busy, no time for me.... go figure. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/headscratch.gif[/img] Didn't even show any emotions about losing me after seeing me for a year! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/nonono.gif[/img]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(1 BULLITT @ February 21, 2006, 6:20 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
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A blast from the past from Mr. GTO himself
BTW, wakerider017 got canned too.
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hahah, i personally liked this one George <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>The GTO is still a POS and you have to live with it. Bon apetite![/b][/quote]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(official_style @ February 22, 2006, 3:56 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
i love f-bodies! i almost bought an 02 trans am ws6 instead of the stang. i love the look of them in black, it is one of the meanest looking cars, with the headlights up or down.
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Yuck, that may be your taste, but i absoloutly hate that thing, its worse then the gto.....
aaand as for the GTO going bye bye, Good Riddence!
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A blast from the past from Mr. GTO himself
BTW, wakerider017 got canned too.
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hahah, i personally liked this one George <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>The GTO is still a POS and you have to live with it. Bon apetite![/b][/quote]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(official_style @ February 22, 2006, 3:56 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
i love f-bodies! i almost bought an 02 trans am ws6 instead of the stang. i love the look of them in black, it is one of the meanest looking cars, with the headlights up or down.
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Yuck, that may be your taste, but i absoloutly hate that thing, its worse then the gto.....
aaand as for the GTO going bye bye, Good Riddence!
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...E/60302001/1507
Looks like the GTO will still exist. Go to the above address for more info.
Looks like the GTO will still exist. Go to the above address for more info.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seth0019 @ March 3, 2006, 7:05 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...E/60302001/1507
Looks like the GTO will still exist. Go to the above address for more info.
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http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...E/60302001/1507
Looks like the GTO will still exist. Go to the above address for more info.
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im bummed that the current one is dying, i like that car alot.. who knows, value might go down and i might be able to afford one hehehe
but im pretty excited about a future more retro one as well [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]
but im pretty excited about a future more retro one as well [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(future9er24 @ March 5, 2006, 5:26 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
but im pretty excited about a future more retro one as well [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]
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Well, since the new GTO is supposedly going to share the same platform as the Camaro, maybe we'll see some crossover in terms of styling. Ya know...they could just split up the middle of the Maro's grill and slap a Pontiac emblem over it. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]
but im pretty excited about a future more retro one as well [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumb.gif[/img]
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Well, since the new GTO is supposedly going to share the same platform as the Camaro, maybe we'll see some crossover in terms of styling. Ya know...they could just split up the middle of the Maro's grill and slap a Pontiac emblem over it. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]
Yup, it ain't dying, it's being reborn. There are some concept sketches here:
http://www.motortrend.com/future/spied/112...08_pontiac_gto/
Unfortunately it is still not returning to its musclecar roots as far as appearances go.
http://www.motortrend.com/future/spied/112...08_pontiac_gto/
Unfortunately it is still not returning to its musclecar roots as far as appearances go.
VYTO!!!! havent seen your typing in forever! I still love that cobra you made over two years ago.
That firebird is really awesome ( I would love to see it look like that), but can you make one with the front body-colored instead of chrome?
That firebird is really awesome ( I would love to see it look like that), but can you make one with the front body-colored instead of chrome?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tres Wright @ March 10, 2006, 12:31 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Yup, it ain't dying, it's being reborn. There are some concept sketches here:
http://www.motortrend.com/future/spied/112...08_pontiac_gto/
Unfortunately it is still not returning to its musclecar roots as far as appearances go.
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That article is almost 1 year old.
Yup, it ain't dying, it's being reborn. There are some concept sketches here:
http://www.motortrend.com/future/spied/112...08_pontiac_gto/
Unfortunately it is still not returning to its musclecar roots as far as appearances go.
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That article is almost 1 year old.
That's too bad!!! For what it was, in terms of performance and quality, it was a nice car, but to rebadge it as an icon of the muscle car era and not have the style to captivate the American public like the Mustang did, just proves to GM that you can't just drop in a hot vette motor into a car and hope that it'll do well. Therefore, I think the writing was on the wall a long time ago, so its not really that big of a surprise...at least to me.
Ok we have said our goodbyes to the GTO. I think we have made some good points, good car, bland body, no ties to originals, wrong name. great engine and interior. It is always sad to see a performance car be discontinued.
Now more important subject..
Where will this 04-06 Austrailian GTO fit into automotive history??
Will it be a vauluable collector car , another Buich Grand National, or be forgoten and cast aside by future collectors? Do you think anyone will be buying one and holding it for future value? What would a mint or new one be worth 20 years down the road?
My personal opinion, they made too many to be very collectable, good engine, might se some moded out or take the engines out and use in other cars, but I doubt this car will get any more popular as time passes
Now more important subject..
Where will this 04-06 Austrailian GTO fit into automotive history??
Will it be a vauluable collector car , another Buich Grand National, or be forgoten and cast aside by future collectors? Do you think anyone will be buying one and holding it for future value? What would a mint or new one be worth 20 years down the road?
My personal opinion, they made too many to be very collectable, good engine, might se some moded out or take the engines out and use in other cars, but I doubt this car will get any more popular as time passes
So how rare is the the GTO?
In 2005 Ford made 160,000 Mustangs
In 2005 Nissan imported 30,000 350Z
In 2005 there were only 11,069 GTOs made.
Just think for every 1 GTO made in in 2005 there are 15 Stangs on the road. Hang on to them boys and girls....

And IMO, that is why the GTO will be worth something someday. I rather ride in a Aussie-made Goat then buy a Mustang or Charger and be like the rest of the pack.


