Corvette ZR1 638hp for 103,300
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LMAO at the 103K......I just today signed papers for my next house for only 80K more. And I get acreage, finished basement, heated attached garage, 1,008 SF of detached and finished shop area, 3 bed and 2 full baths. No way would I pay over 100K for a car!!
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That's most likely why you don't see them. As far as I know the ZR1 has yet to post a better time than the GTR.
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great deal! wheres it at? ?
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The GTR is a 'technical' marvel in how it drives....
Enough technical firepower to make your gaming PC cower in shame (ok not really)
but you get the idea.
The ZR1 is just a beast...the GTR is not a slouch, but compensates for the driver mod and does things that you can't possibly do.
Takes more skill to drive the ZR1 no doubt.
Enough technical firepower to make your gaming PC cower in shame (ok not really)
but you get the idea.
The ZR1 is just a beast...the GTR is not a slouch, but compensates for the driver mod and does things that you can't possibly do.
Takes more skill to drive the ZR1 no doubt.
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The Corvette cheif engineer threw out a challenge to every automaker in the world that the ZR1 will best any production car at Nurb. Ill try to find the article somewhere.
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It's definately got it's work cut out for it then. The 7:38 was on a damp track, it ran 7:29 recently as reported by Nissan. http://www.nissaneurope-newsbureau.c...95056384513968
That is haulin. The Z06 ran 7:42 and I'd expect faster with almost 140 more hp, wider/better tires, better brakes etc, but making up 13 seconds is going to be extremely difficult even with more hp and a higher top speed than the GTR. I'm definately anxious as to see it's official times, but I'm not going to hold my breath that AWD makes one hell of an equalizer. Bystanders supposedly put the V-spec at 7:25 http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/08/n...tun-observers/ .
Don't get me wrong I'd take the Z06 even over that thing but no denying that SOB can move. I hope the ZR1 can take that but it will be very hard. I'm hoping the GM engineers knew these times when making the comment, we shall see soon.
Oh and there is a GGT of 1400 too so it must be added, this one didn't get by on that.
That is haulin. The Z06 ran 7:42 and I'd expect faster with almost 140 more hp, wider/better tires, better brakes etc, but making up 13 seconds is going to be extremely difficult even with more hp and a higher top speed than the GTR. I'm definately anxious as to see it's official times, but I'm not going to hold my breath that AWD makes one hell of an equalizer. Bystanders supposedly put the V-spec at 7:25 http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/08/n...tun-observers/ .
Don't get me wrong I'd take the Z06 even over that thing but no denying that SOB can move. I hope the ZR1 can take that but it will be very hard. I'm hoping the GM engineers knew these times when making the comment, we shall see soon.
Oh and there is a GGT of 1400 too so it must be added, this one didn't get by on that.
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The ZR1's chances of actually outrunning a Nissan GTR around most road courses? My guess.....just north of non existent. I wont says it's impossible but, as already pointed out in this thread, given the gap between the Z06 and the GTR the likelihood that what amounts to a more powerful, slightly heavier version of a Z06 based car can make up that kind of difference is going to be extremely small even with the ZR1's rather large power advantage. And, as has also already been mentioned in this thread, I would guess that the reason you haven't seen Nurb times for the ZR1 yet is because GM hasn't been able to equal the times posted by the GTR.
And it doesn't matter. The notion that a performance car's value is based strictly on the numbers it turns in seems to have taken on a life of it's own on the net, and unfortunately within this forum on occasion, and it's ridiculous. (this thread hasn't gotten there yet, but it will so I'm striking preemptively) Rhumb likes to reference the old saying that it isn't so much about how fast you go as how you go fast, and in my experience most of the guys who have been behind the wheel of really fast stuff, and particularly those who race and/or wrench themselves, are some of the most ardent proponents of this.
If outright speed were all that mattered somebody would simply figure out how to stuff a LS7
into an Exige and every gearhead on earth would be driving a 2300lb cruise missile with their knees touching their chin. And while that might make for a very interesting car, I'm betting they would remain pretty rare even with said JATO option. If you are going to beat up on the ZR1 please take the time to find a better reason than the reality that there is probably a car out there which is faster around a road course.
Speed isn't everything. And even if it were, it's the one thing about a car I can fix pretty easily.
And it doesn't matter. The notion that a performance car's value is based strictly on the numbers it turns in seems to have taken on a life of it's own on the net, and unfortunately within this forum on occasion, and it's ridiculous. (this thread hasn't gotten there yet, but it will so I'm striking preemptively) Rhumb likes to reference the old saying that it isn't so much about how fast you go as how you go fast, and in my experience most of the guys who have been behind the wheel of really fast stuff, and particularly those who race and/or wrench themselves, are some of the most ardent proponents of this.
If outright speed were all that mattered somebody would simply figure out how to stuff a LS7
into an Exige and every gearhead on earth would be driving a 2300lb cruise missile with their knees touching their chin. And while that might make for a very interesting car, I'm betting they would remain pretty rare even with said JATO option. If you are going to beat up on the ZR1 please take the time to find a better reason than the reality that there is probably a car out there which is faster around a road course.
Speed isn't everything. And even if it were, it's the one thing about a car I can fix pretty easily.
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The ZR1's chances of actually outrunning a Nissan GTR around most road courses? My guess.....just north of non existent. I wont says it's impossible but, as already pointed out in this thread, given the gap between the Z06 and the GTR the likelihood that what amounts to a more powerful, slightly heavier version of a Z06 based car can make up that kind of difference is going to be extremely small even with the ZR1's rather large power advantage. And, as has also already been mentioned in this thread, I would guess that the reason you haven't seen Nurb times for the ZR1 yet is because GM hasn't been able to equal the times posted by the GTR.
And it doesn't matter. The notion that a performance car's value is based strictly on the numbers it turns in seems to have taken on a life of it's own on the net, and unfortunately within this forum on occasion, and it's ridiculous. (this thread hasn't gotten there yet, but it will so I'm striking preemptively) Rhumb likes to reference the old saying that it isn't so much about how fast you go as how you go fast, and in my experience most of the guys who have been behind the wheel of really fast stuff, and particularly those who race and/or wrench themselves, are some of the most ardent proponents of this.
If outright speed were all that mattered somebody would simply figure out how to stuff a LS7
into an Exige and every gearhead on earth would be driving a 2300lb cruise missile with their knees touching their chin. And while that might make for a very interesting car, I'm betting they would remain pretty rare even with said JATO option. If you are going to beat up on the ZR1 please take the time to find a better reason than the reality that there is probably a car out there which is faster around a road course.
Speed isn't everything. And even if it were, it's the one thing about a car I can fix pretty easily.
And it doesn't matter. The notion that a performance car's value is based strictly on the numbers it turns in seems to have taken on a life of it's own on the net, and unfortunately within this forum on occasion, and it's ridiculous. (this thread hasn't gotten there yet, but it will so I'm striking preemptively) Rhumb likes to reference the old saying that it isn't so much about how fast you go as how you go fast, and in my experience most of the guys who have been behind the wheel of really fast stuff, and particularly those who race and/or wrench themselves, are some of the most ardent proponents of this.
If outright speed were all that mattered somebody would simply figure out how to stuff a LS7
into an Exige and every gearhead on earth would be driving a 2300lb cruise missile with their knees touching their chin. And while that might make for a very interesting car, I'm betting they would remain pretty rare even with said JATO option. If you are going to beat up on the ZR1 please take the time to find a better reason than the reality that there is probably a car out there which is faster around a road course.
Speed isn't everything. And even if it were, it's the one thing about a car I can fix pretty easily.
Couldn't agree more. Unfortunately, it's not only the crazed enthusiasts that fan these flames, the OEMs have created the whole thing so there's some kind of reason to promote new vehicle sales. You ever notice how a car that gets glowing reviews, somehow gets relegated to marginal around the time it's successor comes on the market? The OEMs and the media push that agenda and all too many consumers eat it up.
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The ZR1's chances of actually outrunning a Nissan GTR around most road courses? My guess.....just north of non existent. I wont says it's impossible but, as already pointed out in this thread, given the gap between the Z06 and the GTR the likelihood that what amounts to a more powerful, slightly heavier version of a Z06 based car can make up that kind of difference is going to be extremely small even with the ZR1's rather large power advantage. And, as has also already been mentioned in this thread, I would guess that the reason you haven't seen Nurb times for the ZR1 yet is because GM hasn't been able to equal the times posted by the GTR.
And it doesn't matter. The notion that a performance car's value is based strictly on the numbers it turns in seems to have taken on a life of it's own on the net, and unfortunately within this forum on occasion, and it's ridiculous. (this thread hasn't gotten there yet, but it will so I'm striking preemptively) Rhumb likes to reference the old saying that it isn't so much about how fast you go as how you go fast, and in my experience most of the guys who have been behind the wheel of really fast stuff, and particularly those who race and/or wrench themselves, are some of the most ardent proponents of this.
If outright speed were all that mattered somebody would simply figure out how to stuff a LS7
into an Exige and every gearhead on earth would be driving a 2300lb cruise missile with their knees touching their chin. And while that might make for a very interesting car, I'm betting they would remain pretty rare even with said JATO option. If you are going to beat up on the ZR1 please take the time to find a better reason than the reality that there is probably a car out there which is faster around a road course.
Speed isn't everything. And even if it were, it's the one thing about a car I can fix pretty easily.
And it doesn't matter. The notion that a performance car's value is based strictly on the numbers it turns in seems to have taken on a life of it's own on the net, and unfortunately within this forum on occasion, and it's ridiculous. (this thread hasn't gotten there yet, but it will so I'm striking preemptively) Rhumb likes to reference the old saying that it isn't so much about how fast you go as how you go fast, and in my experience most of the guys who have been behind the wheel of really fast stuff, and particularly those who race and/or wrench themselves, are some of the most ardent proponents of this.
If outright speed were all that mattered somebody would simply figure out how to stuff a LS7
into an Exige and every gearhead on earth would be driving a 2300lb cruise missile with their knees touching their chin. And while that might make for a very interesting car, I'm betting they would remain pretty rare even with said JATO option. If you are going to beat up on the ZR1 please take the time to find a better reason than the reality that there is probably a car out there which is faster around a road course.
Speed isn't everything. And even if it were, it's the one thing about a car I can fix pretty easily.
. Only I'll give the ZR1's chances just south of close but no cigar. I can see 7:30 maybe 7:32. If it goes faster I'll say holy shat, It's not impossible . In what I'd use both cars for (straight line stuff) I'd take the ZR1's weight and HP advantage even vs the V-spec. Biggest thing about that track is how repeatable are any of the best times posted and are either driver better? Was the track and weather conditions the same? Under boost that will make a huge difference. Can the drivers of the two switch vehicles and post similar better times etc. Too many invariables on a track that **** long. As far as purpose built cars go the Ultima Is pretty much your exige idea in a nutshell, but probably not near as comfortable a daily driver as wither the ZR1 or GTR. But it will beat both 0-100-0 and with a competent driver out do both at the ring. Me I'll just have fun with mine building it to beat both down he 1320.
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And again, the problem is that far too many people worry about buying a car based on what it supposedly can do. Sounds an awful lot like people trying to buy a personality. These OEMs really LOVE insecure guys.