I don't mind the interior either? I don't think its that bad...

 

It's clear all the money was spent on the exterior and packaging, and that NO thought whatsoever was put into the interior, possibly due to a lack of development money.

The exterior is bloody near perfect, though.

 

I think all dodge interiors are boring....even the Viper's....

 

the exterior looks great but at that weight it will remain the "challenger" and the mustang the "champion" lol.

 

Don't count on it. Power to weight on the two cars will be roughly comparable. The Mustang is more nimble, to be sure, but the Dodge has more HP and the advantage of IRS vs. the Mustang's spruce log rear suspension.

 

Motor Trend tested the Charger R/T against the Mustang GT a while ago,
and in all the handling tests (slalom, figure-8, lateral accel.) the GT did better than the Charger; the GT also did better in braking. Seeing how the Challenger is built on the same chassis as the Charger, the "spruce log" should take on the challenge pretty well.

 

That's the Charger R/T you're referring to, right? 350 HP only.

I think the Challenger SRT-8 will be much more competitive.

As to the slalom test, don't discount body style and air flow - the Charger is basically designed like a brick. Of course, I don't know if the Challenger is particularly aerodynamic, either, so that argument might not hold water.

Challenger will likely be set up differently; sprung differently - and with different shocks, though.

Overall, I expect the Challenger SRT-8 and Mustang GT to be quite comparable in overall performance, which is interesting in itself, since it means it takes the SRT-8 to match a regular GT. Of course, Dodge is talking about a more powerful version of the Challenger still...

Challenger looks breathtaking, though, I have to say.

 

 

http://www.velocityjournal.com/journ.../pictures.html

 

GT500 3920 lbs
Length 188.001 in
Width 73.901 in
Height 54.501 in
Wheelbase 107.101 in
Front Track 61.901 in
Rear Track 62.501 in

Challenger SRT 4140 lbs
Length 197.801 in
Width 78.601 in
Height 57.001 in
Wheelbase 116.001 in
Front Track 64.001 in
Rear Track 65.101 in

 

wow...that thing is huge

 

buck: I call 'em like I see 'em--and then occasionally I post it. It's gratifying that you agree!

Greg "Eights" Ates

 

Hollywood North GT:

Here's Motor Trend's July 2006 issue's facts on several performance measurements for the Charger SRT8 (only 126 pounds heavier than the Challenger SRT8 at 4266 pounds), the GTO (3777 pounds), and the Shelby GT500 (3990 pounds). The comparo was done at the same location on the same day with the same drivers. All three cars came with the standard factory OEM tires (the GTO and the GT500) or with regular factory option tires (the SRT8).

Braking, 60-0:
SRT8: 124 ft. GTO: 138 ft. GT500: 110 ft.
Figure-8 in seconds:
SRT8: 26.3 (.68G) GTO: 26.8 (.66G) GT500: 24.5 (.77G)
600-ft. slalom, MPH averaged:
SRT8: 65.2 GTO: 62.4 GT500: 69.7
Standing-Start quarter mile:
SRT8: 13.5 @ 106.3 GTO: 13.3 @ 105.9 GT500: 12.7 @ 116.0
0-100:
SRT8: 11.9 secs GTO: 11.7 secs GT500: 9.6 secs
0-60:
SRT8: 5.0 secs GTO: 4.7 secs GT500: 4.5 secs

Losing only 126 pounds from when it was a Charger SRT8, the Challenger SRT8 can expect only modest performance gains over the Charger SRT8. Not bad--but eaten alive by the Shelby GT500, and even by the GTO in the acceleration tests.

By the time the GTO reached 100 MPH from a standing start, the GT500 was ahead of it by more than the length of a football field and even further ahead of the Charger SRT8.

 

The Challenger is great, except for being 15-20% too much.

I suspect this Challenger may rise and fall rather quickly in lieu of the future environment of EPA and CAFE standards, not to mention the home-equity ATMs running dry with the deflation of the housing bubble.

Ironically, this neo-Challenger may be repeating the time frame of the original Challenger which arrived -- big, fat, powerful and thirsty -- at the tail end of the original muscle car era of the late 60s and early 70s. Ah, how history unlearned repeats itself.

 

That is all utterly and sadly true. Of course, it also makes the acquisition of one of these that much more appealing.

 

So sad and so true and especially with the state of affairs over there this will most definately follow the course of the original. Late to the party and gone quickly. Hollywood is right though this does have one benefit they will be rare. Unfortunately, they are not going to have enough kick to truly be worth it in my opinion due to the porkers size and the ADM's that will accompany this. I purchased my GT for around 24k and by the time I hit the 30k mark I will look just as good in my opinion and will be able to run circles around these and for 10k+ less!

 

it is too big, looks more like a pig than a sports car...

the concept looked good, but now, they downgraded so many things... it looks blah...

now the mustang s197... I like the ending product mych better than the silver concepts..

The lights looked better, the interior is pretty, 2+2!!

between this pig and a camaro,.... the camaro... between the camaro and the mustang... mustang....
Overall... I would get a Nissan Gtr over pretty much anything...

But hey! the shape itself of the mustang, is prettier than any of these new cars...
specially the Gtr which I think... is not reall really good looking ... but at least specs are Astonishing...

 

Yeah, and so is the price of the GT-R and its accompanying ADMs.

 

It's art, either you like it or you don't. IMHO I love it.

 

I still don't know how I feel about this car.

The outside is amazing, and I could stare at it all day. The interior... I wouldn't want to be sitting behind the wheel of an eco-box while I'm driving my Challenger, would you?

Though the concept was sound, they just changed too much in the transition to possibly lose my vote for liking it. Oh well.