BMW 4-Series
12/5/12, 10:56 AM
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BMW 4-Series
This is the, thinly disguised, 4-Series concept. Expect the production car to have less fussy bumpers and simpler leather on the inside.
I like it
I like it
12/5/12, 11:09 AM
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12/5/12, 11:37 AM
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12/5/12, 11:57 AM
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The current 3-series coupe is based on the older E90 platform......the latest 3-series saloon and Tourer are the F30.
This new 4-series replaces the old 3-series coupe
E90 3-series coupe
F30 3-series saloon
This new 4-series replaces the old 3-series coupe
E90 3-series coupe
F30 3-series saloon
12/6/12, 08:47 AM
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Generally quite nice, but for a few details:
Front and rear bumpers: a bit overdone, however, I expect that's probably just the concept car going a bit over the top as concept cars are want to do and they will be toned down a touch for production.
Front fender vent: Excuse me while I turn down my Cheesy Detail Alarm ... there, now, Pep Boys called and wants they Stick'um On Vents returned. Were this some testing prototype with them, I'd say it was just some goofy camo detail. That it's on an actual concept car, and possibly for production, makes me want to go to October Fest in Germany, when and where this element was obviously conceived, because if many steins of German beer does this to otherwise right-thinking men, I want me some of that stuff too. At least it looks like that carbunkle, errr, detail is limited to the front fender stampings so could readily be rectified without them.
Front and rear bumpers: a bit overdone, however, I expect that's probably just the concept car going a bit over the top as concept cars are want to do and they will be toned down a touch for production.
Front fender vent: Excuse me while I turn down my Cheesy Detail Alarm ... there, now, Pep Boys called and wants they Stick'um On Vents returned. Were this some testing prototype with them, I'd say it was just some goofy camo detail. That it's on an actual concept car, and possibly for production, makes me want to go to October Fest in Germany, when and where this element was obviously conceived, because if many steins of German beer does this to otherwise right-thinking men, I want me some of that stuff too. At least it looks like that carbunkle, errr, detail is limited to the front fender stampings so could readily be rectified without them.
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12/6/12, 08:55 AM
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So, there will be 1-Series hatch and then 1-Series coupe will be called 2-Series, and there will also be a 1-Series GT, which is not related at all to the rest of 1-Series because of the FWD and I3 engine ...
12/6/12, 09:03 AM
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Yeah, BMW's lineup has lost quite a bit of coherence as they seem to go chasing, *****-nilly, every niche market their marketing department says they should. In the end, they're diluting their overall product identity, integrity and image in this chase. The model numbering contortions only reflect this deeper confusion and lack of direction.
Hopefully, in the future, the marketing sales and marketing departments will return to support operations in service to the design and engineering departments -- that relationship seems reversed the past decade or so.
Hopefully, in the future, the marketing sales and marketing departments will return to support operations in service to the design and engineering departments -- that relationship seems reversed the past decade or so.
12/6/12, 11:30 AM
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Generally quite nice, but for a few details:
Front and rear bumpers: a bit overdone, however, I expect that's probably just the concept car going a bit over the top as concept cars are want to do and they will be toned down a touch for production.
Front fender vent: Excuse me while I turn down my Cheesy Detail Alarm ... there, now, Pep Boys called and wants they Stick'um On Vents returned. Were this some testing prototype with them, I'd say it was just some goofy camo detail. That it's on an actual concept car, and possibly for production, makes me want to go to October Fest in Germany, when and where this element was obviously conceived, because if many steins of German beer does this to otherwise right-thinking men, I want me some of that stuff too. At least it looks like that carbunkle, errr, detail is limited to the front fender stampings so could readily be rectified without them.
Front and rear bumpers: a bit overdone, however, I expect that's probably just the concept car going a bit over the top as concept cars are want to do and they will be toned down a touch for production.
Front fender vent: Excuse me while I turn down my Cheesy Detail Alarm ... there, now, Pep Boys called and wants they Stick'um On Vents returned. Were this some testing prototype with them, I'd say it was just some goofy camo detail. That it's on an actual concept car, and possibly for production, makes me want to go to October Fest in Germany, when and where this element was obviously conceived, because if many steins of German beer does this to otherwise right-thinking men, I want me some of that stuff too. At least it looks like that carbunkle, errr, detail is limited to the front fender stampings so could readily be rectified without them.
As for the vents, they are, at least, functional:
"the vents do serve a purpose, extracting turbulent air from the wheelarches, while intakes in the bumper create a “curtain of air” over the spinning wheel. “It’s ornament and function combined in a very BMW way,”
12/6/12, 03:27 PM
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Correction:
"As for the vents, they are, at most, functional:..."
Still gaudy as sin though, visually, however well they might work. There are many examples of functional vents much better executed visually.
"As for the vents, they are, at most, functional:..."
Still gaudy as sin though, visually, however well they might work. There are many examples of functional vents much better executed visually.
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12/6/12, 06:03 PM
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BMW is renaming cars with 4 doors with odd numbers...3 series, and coupes with even numbers, hence the 4 and 6 series. Which is odd because here in the US the 1 series is only available in a coupe while in Europe and Japan it is also a sedan.
The next generation will follow the line up as its moving to now. So the 2 series is going to be coming out.
As much as I like BMW I think they are making a huge mistake..first off to call the new M3 coupe coming out a M4..I'm like what? When I hear M4 I am thinking of this..
Anyway, I love the car and the interior in the new 3 series is actually quite nice. My bro just bought a 2013 BMW 328i Sport with 6MT and it is a very nice car. The pic of the interior in that coupe I can smell the wood and leather through my monitor.
Dave
The next generation will follow the line up as its moving to now. So the 2 series is going to be coming out.
As much as I like BMW I think they are making a huge mistake..first off to call the new M3 coupe coming out a M4..I'm like what? When I hear M4 I am thinking of this..
Anyway, I love the car and the interior in the new 3 series is actually quite nice. My bro just bought a 2013 BMW 328i Sport with 6MT and it is a very nice car. The pic of the interior in that coupe I can smell the wood and leather through my monitor.
Dave
12/6/12, 07:31 PM
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when I criticize the beamer's interior I'm more aiming it towards it's design. Not so much the materials. The gauges baffle me and I hate the orange/red lighting. I like the rest
12/6/12, 08:17 PM
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Forgive me if this has already be answered above, because I only skimmed after the first couple posts, but why is BMW calling this a 4 series? It just just the next generation 3 series coupe right? So why not just call it the 3 series? The 3 series is such an iconic car, probably the most widely known BMW model, why would they rename the coupe version? I don't see the point.
12/7/12, 02:40 PM
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I for one believe I have the last true "M" car, in that the engine was designed by BMW Motorsports, high revving normally aspirated, the block and heads were made in the same factory that makes the block and heads for BMW F1 cars. With the new "M" car now being turbocharged and more pedestrian rev limits, the "M" car are losing a lot of the flavoring that made them special.
You should hear my M3 at 8600rpm with removed primary cats and catback exhaust. The sound from the engine is unbelievable. The induction noise form 8 individual throttle bodies to the exhaust note is aural orgasmic pleasure.
Dave
You should hear my M3 at 8600rpm with removed primary cats and catback exhaust. The sound from the engine is unbelievable. The induction noise form 8 individual throttle bodies to the exhaust note is aural orgasmic pleasure.
Dave
12/7/12, 04:30 PM
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I for one believe I have the last true "M" car, in that the engine was designed by BMW Motorsports, high revving normally aspirated, the block and heads were made in the same factory that makes the block and heads for BMW F1 cars. With the new "M" car now being turbocharged and more pedestrian rev limits, the "M" car are losing a lot of the flavoring that made them special.
You should hear my M3 at 8600rpm with removed primary cats and catback exhaust. The sound from the engine is unbelievable. The induction noise form 8 individual throttle bodies to the exhaust note is aural orgasmic pleasure.
Dave
You should hear my M3 at 8600rpm with removed primary cats and catback exhaust. The sound from the engine is unbelievable. The induction noise form 8 individual throttle bodies to the exhaust note is aural orgasmic pleasure.
Dave