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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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Autoweek reports BMW 1 series has 300HP

The 135i due in September to have TT 3.0.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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I'd love to take a spin in this little beast! Sounds like a fun car. Wouldn't want to own it past the warranty time (we all know how expensive BMW's are to fix out of warranty).
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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I'd love to take a spin in this little beast! Sounds like a fun car. Wouldn't want to own it past the warranty time (we all know how expensive BMW's are to fix out of warranty).
unless you fix them yourself. anywho, yeah that car looks cool. i guess its an e47 3 series lol
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Looks pretty cool and with each new model, the Banglized styling themes actually are evolving to something that actually looks good rather than, um, interesting. The rear end has some obligatory goofy aspect -- Hyundai designers must feel a bit plagerized -- but overall, its a nice looking notchback coupe.

The return to a relatively smaller, lighter, simpler, more basic Bimmer reflecting the spirit of the legendary 2002 is a great idea IMO. If they keep the price reasonable (huge if there) and not bloat it out too, this could be a real winner.

The 135i 300hp TT motor is a real powerhouse -- as long as you keep it cool apparently -- and if they keep the weight in check too, it could be a real pocket rocket. Now if they pop in the current M3's screaming 333hp S54 motor in a raw, stripped down M model, they'd really have a winner.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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Thats a weird lookin buggy.. So how much for the loaded TT version, $26K??
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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Thats a weird lookin buggy.. So how much for the loaded TT version, $26K??
i'd say tack another 6-10 grand on that and your in the ballpark. i do really like the look of the car though.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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heres truckloads of pics
http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/to...ries-Coupe.htm

i dunno I'm not feelin it..too tall and short
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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i dunno I'm not feelin it..too tall and short
Well they're going for the off-beat, funky feel of the 2002 with a modern look. Its appealing in a more unique way than, say, the flawles Astons. I don't think it's perfect, but this, the mMZ3, and the Z8 are the only BMWs I would ever want to own.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Hmmm

There are a few Bangle bumbles on the car, but as a whole I dig it. Best looking present day Bimmer
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/30/v...or-a-flogging/
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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i'd say tack another 6-10 grand on that and your in the ballpark. i do really like the look of the car though.
Closer to 6. The 335i starts at 40, I would expect the top-line 1-series to be at least 6 grand below that.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheese302
unless you fix them yourself.
Good luck with that.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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i dunno I'm not feelin it..too tall and short
Still, it's gonna be embarrassing getting beaten by one of these.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 05fordgt
I'd love to take a spin in this little beast! Sounds like a fun car. Wouldn't want to own it past the warranty time (we all know how expensive BMW's are to fix out of warranty).
With a 4yr/50K warranty which includes everything from oil changes to all wear items (brake pads and rotors, windshield wipers, etc.), it would be tough to pass that up. Chances are, you would want something different after 4 years anyway.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 01:58 AM
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i'd say tack another 6-10 grand on that and your in the ballpark. i do really like the look of the car though.
I was kidding, I would say more like 15-20k more.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 05:07 AM
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Still, it's gonna be embarrassing getting beaten by one of these.
You don't even race!!
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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You don't even race!!
And you know that, because...?

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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinb120
I was kidding, I would say more like 15-20k more.
You really think it would be the same price as a 335i? If so then
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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I would guess the price of a 135i would be in the low 30's, much more than that and they'd just be overlapping the Three Series too much. I'd guess mid to upper 20's for the 128 (or whatever they call the base 3.0 version) and low 30's for the 135 -- base prices, with options adding, well, however many options you add.

Remember, this is supposed to be an entry-level (relatively speaking) BMW, somewhat in the vein of the 2002, and if they go anything beyond this, then its sort of "what's the point, I'll get a full-blown 3-Series for another couple grand."

Perhaps if they put the raucous S54 (M3) motor in an M1(M2?) version, stipped down and sported up, then you could see a price in the mid 30s. Granted, the 335i and M3 have very similar straight line numbers, they do have very different personalities and the quasi-race S54 motor would be more a complement to a hard-edged M1/M2 (as distinct from the more plushed out E92 M3) than the more civilized 135 motor. Or at least in Europe, perhaps such subtleties of character would be lost in the US.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by rhumb
I would guess the price of a 135i would be in the low 30's, much more than that and they'd just be overlapping the Three Series too much. I'd guess mid to upper 20's for the 128 (or whatever they call the base 3.0 version) and low 30's for the 135 -- base prices, with options adding, well, however many options you add.

Remember, this is supposed to be an entry-level (relatively speaking) BMW, somewhat in the vein of the 2002, and if they go anything beyond this, then its sort of "what's the point, I'll get a full-blown 3-Series for another couple grand."

Perhaps if they put the raucous S54 (M3) motor in an M1(M2?) version, stipped down and sported up, then you could see a price in the mid 30s. Granted, the 335i and M3 have very similar straight line numbers, they do have very different personalities and the quasi-race S54 motor would be more a complement to a hard-edged M1/M2 (as distinct from the more plushed out E92 M3) than the more civilized 135 motor. Or at least in Europe, perhaps such subtleties of character would be lost in the US.
I agree with this entirely. BM won't overlap the 1 and 3 series pricing if they can at all avoid it, and since they're insisting that there will be no "M1" (the 135 has the "M package" instead), I just don't see it in the high 30s.
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