I heard good things about Forza - I was seriously dissapinted in Gran Turismo 5. Maybe I'll give it a try when I get some time.

 

Forza is vastly superior to GT. Love it. Always have, always will.

 

You're gonna have to email him or put it on facebook.

Arin has been too hecksa busy to check TMS threads.

 

Yeah, I read about that too, that '78 King Cobra will be available in Forza 4.

Can't wait for it.

 

XBOX 360 only??? The last console I bought was a Sega Genesis; I've been PC or mooching off my kid's consoles (PS, PS2 PS3, Wii) ever since. I guess this one, like GT, is console-specific and wont be ported.

 

Microsoft is the publisher on this title, so it will be 360 exclusive.

 

Yeah, xBox has Forza and Play Station has Gran Turismo.

I played both and I switched to xBox because of Forza. They don't have as many cars and tracks as Gran Turismo, but the driving is so much better.

 

Yeah, but the selection in GT5 smells - I like GT4 so much better - I don't even play 5.

 

I'd go Forza 4 just because of Jezza, but I can't afford a 360 right now.

 

I'm a ps3 man, but I'm boycotting gt5 until they show the mustang some proper respect

 

Plus I heard the load times are ricockulous

 

Hate that I sold my 360 right before school and now all of these awesome games are coming out

 

yea... was totally stoked about the gt5 when it first came out.
bought it, played it non-stopped and loved it for a while.
i think i just burned myself out. i am ready to trade it in for the ico/shadow of the colossus.
i SO regret trading in my DS Lite + 10 ds games for GT5, Modnation Racers, RockBand 3 and cymbals for the drum set. i'm such an idiot.

 

I cant wait for the new Forza. Gt5 just didnt please me, yea it looked nice and was fun but it never seemed to satisfy my inner game racer. Now te new Forza...

 

Aren't there like 50+ Skylines and Imprezas in GT5, but only few Fords?

 

Forza 4 car list:

* 2009 Alfa Romeo Brera Italia Independent
* 1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA Stradale
* 1971 AMC Javelin AMX
* 1958 Aston Martin DBR1
* 2010 Aston Martin Rapide
* 1977 Aston Martin V8 Vantage
* 2006 Audi RS4
* 2003 Audi RS6
* 2010 Audi R8 5.2 FSI Quattro
* 1983 Audi Sport Quattro
* 2009 Audi Q7 V12 TDI
* 2010 Bentley Continental Supersports
* 2003 BMW M5
* 2012 BMW M5
* 1986 BMW M635CSi
* 2012 BMW Z4 GT3
* 2010 BMW Motorsport #79 Jeff Koons BMW M3 GT2 Art Car
* 1987 Buick Regal GNX
* 1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
* 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS
* 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
* 1970 Chevrolet El Camino SS 454
* 1964 Chevrolet Impala SS 409
* 2009 Citroen DS3
* 2006 Chrysler Crossfire SRT6
* 2004 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT
* 1970 Datsun 510
* 1971 De Tomaso Pantera
* 2006 Dodge Ram SRT-10
* 2008 #2 Mopar Dodge Viper Competition Coupe
* 1998 Eagle Talon TSI Turbo
* 1957 Ferrari 250 California
* 1995 Ferrari F355 Challenge
* 1968 Ferrari 365 GTB/4
* 2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello
* 2006 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
* 2011 Ferrari 599 GTO
* Ferrari 458 Italia
* 1991 Ferrari 512 TR
* 2004 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
* 2009 Ferrari California
* 1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
* Ferrari Enzo
* 1995 Ferrari F50
* 2011 Ferrari FF
* 2010 Ferrari #83 Risi Competizione F430GT
* 1967 Ferrari 330 P4
* 1980 Fiat 131 Abarth
* 1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
* 2011 Ford Falcon #4 IRWIN Racing FG Falcon
* 1966 Ford GT40 MkII
* 2011 Ford Ka
* 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429
* 1971 Ford Mustang Mach 1
* 1978 Ford Mustang King Cobra
* 1987 Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth
* 1957 Ford Thunderbird
* 1993 Ford SVT Cobra R
* 2010 Ford Taurus SHO
* 1973 Ford XB Falcon GT
* 1991 GMC Truck Syclone
* 2011 Holden #11 Pepsi Max Commodore
* 2009 Holden HSV w427
* 1994 Honda Civic VTi
* 1997 Honda Civic Type R
* 2006 Hummer H1 Alpha
* 2011 Hyundai ix20
* 2003 Infiniti G35
* 2008 Infiniti G37 Coupe Sport
* 1956 Jaguar D-Type
* 1961 Jaguar E-Type S1
* 2010 Jaguar #33 RSR XKR GT
* 2010 Joss JT1
* Kia cee’d
* 1974 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale
* 2005 Lamborghini Murcielago
* 2008 Lamborghini Reventon
* 2011 Lexus CT200h
* 2003 Lexus IS300
* 1999 Lotus Elise Sport
* 2010 Lotus Evora Type 124 Endurance Race Car
* 2010 Maserati Gran Turismo S
* 2004 Maserati MC12
* 2010 Mazda MX-5 Superlight
* 1993 McLaren F1
* 2004 Mercedes-Benz C32 AMG
* 2009 Mercedes-Benz ML 63 AMG
* 1998 Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK GTR
* 1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator
* 2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR
* 1998 Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R
* 2011 Nissan Leaf
* 1994 Nissan 240SX SE
* 1998 Nissan R390
* 1994 Nissan Silvia K
* 1969 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds 442
* 1999 Pagani Zonda C12
* 2007 Peugeot Super 2000
* 1971 Plymouth Cude 426 HEMI
* 1987 Pontiac Trans Am GTA
* 1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am SD-455
* 2002 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am Ram Air
* 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP
* 2006 Pontiac GTO
* 2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP
* 2010 Radical SR8 Supercharged
* 2008 Range Rover Supercharged
* 2002 Saab 9-3 Aero
* 2008 Saleen S331 Supercab
* 2009 SEAT Ibiza Cupra
* 2007 SEAT Leon Supercup
* 1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe
* 1968 Shelby GT-500KR
* 1999 Shelby Series 1
* 2006 Subaru Impreza S204
* 2003 Subaru #77 Cusco Subaru Advan Impreza
* 2011 Subaru WRX STI
* 1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205
* 1995 Toyota MR2 GT
* 1989 Toyota MR2 SC
* 1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
* 2006 Vauxhall Astra VXR
* 2005 Vauxhall Monaro VXR
* 2004 Volkswagen Beetle
* 1992 Volkswagen Golf GTi 16v MK2
* 1998 Volkswagen GTi MK3
* 1984 Volskwagen Rabbit GTi

Forza Motorsport 4: DLC Car Packs Car List:
‘Launch Bonus’ Car Pack:

* 1965 Ford Mustang GT COupe
* 2011 Koenigsegg Agera
* 1997 Lexus SC300
* 2011 RUF RGT-8
* 2011 Tesla Roadster Sport

VIP Car Pack:

* 2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
* 2011 Ferrai 458 Challenge
* 2011 Laborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera
* 2010 Noble M600
* 2011 RUF Rt 12 R

 

There are a lot more than that. One notable add is the muscle car pack that is available on release date is the 1970 Shelby Gt500.

 

This is the updated list:

Forza Motorsport 4: Full Official Car List:

• 1997 Acura NSX
• 2009 Alfa Romeo Brera Italia Independent
• 1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA Stradale
• 1971 AMC Javelin AMX
• 1958 Aston Martin DBR1
• 2010 Aston Martin Rapide
• 1977 Aston Martin V8 Vantage
• 2006 Aston Martin #007 Aston Marting Racing DBR9
• 1995 Audi RS2 Avant
• 2006 Audi RS4
• 2003 Audi RS6
• 2010 Audi R8 5.2 FSI Quattro
• 1983 Audi Sport Quattro
• 2009 Audi Q7 V12 TDI
• 2010 Bentley Continental Supersports
• 2003 Beltey #7 Team Bentley Speed 8
• 1997 BMW M3
• 1988 BMW M5
• 2003 BMW M5
• 2012 BMW M5
• 1986 BMW M635CSi
• 2012 BMW Z4 GT3
• 2010 BMW Motorsport #79 Jeff Koons BMW M3 GT2 Art Car
• 1999 BMW #15 BMW V12 LMR
• 2009 BMW #92 Rahal Letterman Racing M3 GT2
• 2009 Bugatti Veyron 16.4
• 1987 Buick Regal GNX
• 2004 Cadillac CTS-V
• 2002 #6 Team Cadillac Northstar LMP02
• 1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
• 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS
• 2002 Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary SS
• 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe
• 2004 Chevrolet #3 Corvette Racing C5.R
• 2006 Chevrolet #4 Corvette Racing C6>R
• 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
• 2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
• 1970 Chevrolet El Camino SS 454
• 1964 Chevrolet Impala SS 409
• 2011 Chevrolet Spark
• 2011 Citroen C1
• 2009 Citroen DS3
• 2006 Chrysler Crossfire SRT6
• 2004 Chrysler PT Cruiser GT
• 1970 Datsun 510
• 1971 De Tomaso Pantera
• 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT8
• 2006 Dodge Ram SRT-10
• 2008 #2 Mopar Dodge Viper Competition Coupe
• 1998 Eagle Talon TSI Turbo
• 1957 Ferrari 250 California
• 1964 Ferrari 250 GTO
• 1995 Ferrari F355 Challenge
• 1999 Ferrari 360 Modena
• 1968 Ferrari 365 GTB/4
• 2007 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
• Ferrari 458 Italia
• 2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello
• 2006 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
• 2011 Ferrari 599 GTO
• 1991 Ferrari 512 TR
• 2004 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
• 2009 Ferrari California
• 1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
• Ferrari Enzo
• 1995 Ferrari F50
• 2011 Ferrari FF
• 2010 Ferrari #83 Risi Competizione F430GT
• 1967 Ferrari 330 P4
• 1980 Fiat 131 Abarth
• 2010 Fiat Abarth 500 esseesse
• 1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
• 2011 Ford Falcon #4 IRWIN Racing FG Falcon
• 2009 Ford Focus RS
• 1966 Ford GT40 MkII
• 2011 Ford Ka
• 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 429
• 2005 Ford Mustang GT
• 1971 Ford Mustang Mach 1
• 1978 Ford Mustang King Cobra
• 1987 Ford Sierra RS500 Cosworth
• 1957 Ford Thunderbird
• 1993 Ford SVT Cobra R
• 2010 Ford Taurus SHO
• 1973 Ford XB Falcon GT
• 1991 GMC Truck Syclone
• 2011 Holden #11 Pepsi Max Commodore
• 2009 Holden HSV w427
• 1999 Honda Civic Si Coupe
• 1994 Honda Civic VTi
• 1997 Honda Civic Type R
• 2004 Honda Mugen Cici Type-R
• 2006 Hummer H1 Alpha
• 2011 Hyundai ix20
• 2003 Infiniti G35
• 2008 Infiniti G37 Coupe Sport
• 1956 Jaguar D-Type
• 1961 Jaguar E-Type S1
• 2010 Jaguar #33 RSR XKR GT
• 2010 Joss JT1
• Kia cee’d
• 1992 Lancia Delta Integrale EVO
• 1974 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale
• 2005 Lamborghini Gallardo
• 2007 Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera
• 1967 Lamborghini Miura P400
• 2005 Lamborghini Murcielago
• 2007 Lamborghini Mucielago LP640
• 2008 Lamborghini Reventon
• 2011 Lexus CT200h
• 2003 Lexus IS300
• 2010 Lexus LF-A
• 2005 Lotus Elise 111S
• 1999 Lotus Elise Sport
• 2002 Lotus Esprit V8
• 2010 Lotus Evora Type 124 Endurance Race Car
• 2010 Maserati Gran Turismo S
• 2004 Maserati MC12
• 2005 Mazda Axela Sport 23S
• 2008 Mazda Furai
• 2010 Mazda MX-5 Superlight
• 1997 Mazda RX-7
• 2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type-A
• 2010 Mazda #16 Dyson Racing B09/86
• 1993 McLaren F1
• 1997 McLaren #43 Team BMW McLaren F1 GTR
• 2004 Mercedes-Benz C32 AMG
• 2009 Mercedes-Benz ML 63 AMG
• 1998 Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK GTR
• 1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator
• 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT
• 1998 Mitsubishi FTO GP Version R
• 1997 Mitsubishi GTO
• 2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR
• 1998 Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R
• 1994 Nissan Fairlady Z Version S Twin Turbo
• 2011 Nissan Leaf
• 1994 Nissan 240SX SE
• 1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432
• 2011 Nissan Micra
• 1998 Nissan R390
• 1994 Nissan Silvia K
• 1993 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
• 2010 Nissan Skyline GT-R SpecV
• 2003 Nissan #12 Calsonic Skyline
• 1969 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds 442
• 1999 Pagani Zonda C12
• 2011 Peugeot 107
• 2007 Peugeot Super 2000
• 2009 #9 Peugeot Sport Total 908
• 1971 Plymouth Cude 426 HEMI
• 1987 Pontiac Trans Am GTA
• 1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am SD-455
• 2002 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am Ram Air
• 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP
• 2006 Pontiac GTO
• 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge
• 2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP
• 2010 Radical SR8 Supercharged
• 2008 Range Rover Supercharged
• 2009 Renault Twingo Renault Sport Cup
• 2002 Saab 9-3 Aero
• 2008 Saleen S331 Supercab
• 2006 Saturn ION Red Line
• 2005 Scion tC
• 2009 SEAT Ibiza Cupra
• 2007 SEAT Leon Cupra
• 2003 SEAT Leon Cupra R
• 2007 SEAT Leon Supercup
• 1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe
• 1968 Shelby GT-500KR
• 1999 Shelby Series 1
• 2006 Subaru Impreza S204
• 2008 Subarau Impreza WRX STI
• 2010 Subaru Legacy B4 2.5GT
• 2003 Subaru #77 Cusco Subaru Advan Impreza
• 2011 Subaru WRX STI
• 2011 Toyota Aygo
• 1969 Toyota 2000GT
• 2004 Toyota Altezza RS200
• 1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205
• 2003 Toyota Celica SS-I
• 1995 Toyota MR2 GT
• 1989 Toyota MR2 SC
• 2011 Toyota Prius
• 1992 Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
• 1999 #3 Toyota Motorsports GT-One TS020
• 1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
• 2001 TVR Tuscan S
• 2011 Vauxhall Agila
• 2006 Vauxhall Astra VXR
• 2005 Vauxhall Monaro VXR
• 2004 Volkswagen Beetle
• 2011 Volkswagen Fox
• 2006 Volkswagen Golf GTi
• 1992 Volkswagen Golf GTi 16v MK2
• 1998 Volkswagen GTi MK3
• 1984 Volkswagen Rabbit GTi
• 2011 Volvo S60 R-Design

Forza Motorsport 4: DLC Car Packs Car List:

‘Launch Bonus’ Car Pack:

• 1965 Ford Mustang GT Coupe
• 2011 Koenigsegg Agera
• 1997 Lexus SC300
• 2011 RUF RGT-8
• 2011 Tesla Roadster Sport

VIP Car Pack:

• 2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
• 2011 Ferrai 458 Challenge
• 2011 Laborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera
• 2010 Noble M600
• 2011 RUF Rt 12 R

American Muscle DLC Car Pack (Available at launch as Season Pass Bonus)

• 1970 Buick GSX
• 1966 Chevrolet Nova SS
• 1970 Dodge Coronet Super Bee
• 1967 Dodge Coronet W023
• 1968 Dodge Dart HEMI Super Stock
• 1964 Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt
• 1971 Plymouth GTX 426 Hemi
• 1968 Pontiac Firebird
• 1965 Pontiac GTO
• 1969 Shelby GT500 428CJ

 

You are correct, sir.

GT4 was much more inclusive.