68notch

Here ya go, ace:

68notch

For kicks, here's a $50K car that handily outperforms:

Lalo

funny stuff

Performance is more than just mere 0-60 times
The Evo comes no where close to Aston's all around performance

68notch

I'd bet money the Evo out-handles and out-brakes the AM, or at the very least matches it. The same can be said with the Z06. You lose.

jgsmuzzy

OK, so why is the EVO not winning major autosports races??? Also, where can you buy a brand new evo for $30k? We are talking new cars here, not an EVO VI that has been beaten to death

Oh, and please lose the attitude. We do not need it around here

68notch

The comparison to race vehicles is irrelevant. We're talking street vehicles here, not their hyper-tweaked race counterparts. As I've said, I'd wager the Evo street car puts up better (or at least equal) numbers in performance benchmarks like the slalom, skidpad, breaking, standing start accleration, etc.

The MSRP for a new Evo (VIII) in the States is $30,699. The 6-speed MR is ~35K.

Edit: Spelling

Lalo

The Vantage is dubbed the "Porsche 911 fighter."
It doesnt get that name from having EVO like performance

On a different note: Just found out that the first two years of production of this car are already sold out! :shock:

68notch

That's fine. Of course, one of the original intentions of a "911 fighter" was a 911-esque price. That is, the car was meant to be under $100K. For one reason or another, the price crept up to $130K, but without a corresponding increase in performance. AM dropped th ball.

Lalo

There is no getting you to the other side lol

From it's release in Geneva, it's been known that is was going to be 110-115K, although it would have been awesome if it was under 100K, for me to have even a remote chance of buying one like 30 years from now lol

68notch

Yeah, let's agree to disagree. Peace.

Lalo

burningman

welp any car that get around the Nurburg ring in under 8mins..that my friend is a fast car! The V-8 Vantage is by any measure a bargain.

Unfortuantly for the evo it has no torque and rediculous turbo lag. THe Nerburg is a track that truly test a cars meddle and the evo just hasn't got it where it counts.

Top Gear tested the evo and jeremy had a very simple torque test for it. he got the evo and a cruddy rental car and ran them up to 30mhp and kept them there in top gear..then on the word go they both mashed the peddles to the floor. the cruddy rental car killed the evo. The evo proved it had rediculous lag. Then when the stig took it around the track he got into a turn got off the gas a smidge and fell out of boost and the performance just plummited.

This will never ever happen to a car that has 75% peak power at 1500 RPMs

gimme and Aston and day!

peace

Lalo

you put it soooooo much better than I ever could

Colvindesign

I thought the final price was 115k, either way, I can't afford it. However If I win the lotto, it will be in my garage, in the same section as the 911 S the Gallardo, the F430, Gt500 and the new Z06. The DB9 will only see my garage if I can find a manual. I have heard they come in manual but have yet to see one.

I can tell you this much, I would not bother with an Evo or WRX, they are cheap cars that are modded from the factory, big whip. I'd rather start with a sports car and modify it if I wanted something like that, not a small compact 4 door that has no room in the back seat for someone taller than 5'10".

I truly can't see it costing 130k because the DB9 costs 150k. THey should be more different in price, considering one has a V8 and one has a V12.

Also, why didn't they call it the DB8?

Lalo

I heard they skipped 8 because they thoought people would think it had a V8 instead of a v12

Colvindesign

I was talking about the AMV8, why wasn't it called the DB8?

Lalo

oooohh... well, because it isnt a DB series Aston. The AMV8 is considerably smaller than DB series AM's. Anyways, the DB9 was released before the AMV8, so it would be pretty silly to name a car DB8 after the DB9 was released :P

Colvindesign

the DB2 was pretty small. I know we could go back and forth on this for a while, But I think it would have made sense to call it DB8 and have the DB9 at the same time. THey have had DB1, DB2, DB3, DB4, DB5, DB6, DB7 and now DB9, totally skipped over the 8 and now they have a cool V8 powered car, so I would think they would call it DB8.

And actually the DB stands for David Brown who has not owned the company since 1972, but bought it back in 1948. So, to just to skip a number in a sequence that has gone back 57 years, I would rather have the DB8 come out a few months after the DB9 and preserve the namesake.

There has not been a real DB AM for quite some time, so to say the new DB9 is any more so than the AMV8, is not completely true.

Lalo

True, but I'm sure they didnt go with DB8 for some good reason. They wouldnt just skip a number like that just for the heck of it

Colvindesign

yeah but I want I want I want. now I know how my 4 year old feels.