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Old Jul 22, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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360 CS Replacement. 430 Scuderia.

http://seriouswheels.com/cars/top-20...0-Scuderia.htm

I like it. Other than the fact it is yet another bad Ferrari photoshop. They should commision some of you guys.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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Photoshop? Its the new Challenge Stradale! That car looks SICK!!!! Like the name change also.
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Old Jul 23, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Haha, yes like the first official pictures of the 599 these are photoshops. The first real one will be seen soon though...
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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I looked over the pictures and I'll be darned if i can tell if they are photoshops or not.

I'm pretty much a perfectionist and the only thing i thought looked weird was the low front end shot the right airdam looked odd that there was absolutly no reflection under it like the left side...but it could be the lighting that would make it look like that.

Where did you see that it is a photoshop?
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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That is just what Ferrari's "thing" has been for new models ever since the 360 came out. And photoshop was not the word I meant. They are 3D models, but still aren't "pictures".
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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The newest crop of Ferrari's are almost certainly the best cars to wear the prancing horse since new 365GTB's roamed the earth. Unfortunately they are without question the ugliest cars to ever wear the badge. Did I miss the memo? Is ugly the new 'in' thing in automotive styling?

The truly unfortunate part of all of this is that Enzo believed a great car should be a beautiful car. He would never have approved of monstrosities like these.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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+1

although this is an improvement over the standard 430
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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The reason they he would say that a "great car is a beautiful car" was simply because a "beautiful" car of the 60's always seemed to perform better than an "ugly" car. Reason being that more aerodynamic cars were considered more beautiful. Whether they knew that or not is unknown to me.

I wouldn't call the newest Ferrari's ugly. I think that they are all a step up ever since the 355. 360's, and now 430's are much better looking (IMO) than the previous cars, since the late 60's. The new front engined cars are also much better looking. 456 550 575 599 (just not the 612...). The cars of the 60's though obviously take the cake. 275 GTB, 250 GTO, need I say more?
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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The reason they he would say that a "great car is a beautiful car" was simply because a "beautiful" car of the 60's always seemed to perform better than an "ugly" car. Reason being that more aerodynamic cars were considered more beautiful. Whether they knew that or not is unknown to me.

I wouldn't call the newest Ferrari's ugly. I think that they are all a step up ever since the 355. 360's, and now 430's are much better looking (IMO) than the previous cars, since the late 60's. The new front engined cars are also much better looking. 456 550 575 599 (just not the 612...). The cars of the 60's though obviously take the cake. 275 GTB, 250 GTO, need I say more?
I have to disagree with some of that. The 360 was terrible with the 612 and 430 bordering on abomination. However, I do agree that the Ferrari's of the 60's were fantastic and would be difficult to match.

Also, I have to say that Enzo's thoughts on the subject of aerodynamics lead to a drastically different impression of his definition of beauty. For a direct qoute....

Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. Enzo Ferrari

........Enzo was well known for his stern hand and discerning eye when it came to cars penned under his watch. If it wasn't gorgeous it typically didn't get a pass.
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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This car is awesome. Gorgeous, maybe not, but definitely good/cool looking. The 599 could use a little work visually and the Scag is boring, but few would consider the cars "monstrosities."
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Old Jul 24, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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This car is awesome. Gorgeous, maybe not, but definitely good/cool looking. The 599 could use a little work visually and the Scag is boring, but few would consider the cars "monstrosities."
I'm sticking by the monstrosity tag.

Jester aside I'm serious. There have been some questionable Ferrari's in the past, the Mondial is a perfect example possibly representing the worst looking Ferrari to date prior to the current era. Despite this these cars never looked like anything other than another offspring from Maranello and were never actually ugly cars. In contrast the Scag is just awful, the Enzo even worse, with the best of the current lot being the 599 which is really saying something because the 599 is barely acceptable. Even worse than being ugly.....the new cars don't really look like a Ferrari more closely resembling a Pacific Rim knock off without a trace of soul than a proper Ferrari in most cases. Nothing wearing a prancing horse today holds a candle to the simple 355. And to park any of the new models next to a Daytona would only serve to publically embarassment the designer who penned it.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cntchds
That is just what Ferrari's "thing" has been for new models ever since the 360 came out. And photoshop was not the word I meant. They are 3D models, but still aren't "pictures".
ok i gotcha.
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Old Jul 25, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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First real pictures
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cntchds
First real pictures
Where did you find these!!! That car is just !!!
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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I like it. BUt i would prefer sans stripes.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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That shouldn't be difficult since the stripes are a 5K option...

The pictures are courtesy of a member on FChat.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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I'm sticking by the monstrosity tag.

the Enzo even worse,.
Glad to Know im not the only one who thought the Enzo is one of the ugliest cars I've laid eyes on especially for a Ferrari. The Scag is ugly as sin as well. I Like this new one from the hood up (minus the stripes). But that lower front air dam makes me think of a frog or something. Looking at it head on.
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Agreed on the Enzo comment. The P4/5 was an enormous step forward in terms of looks.
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