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Stage_3 11/11/17 01:59 PM

2018 Jeep Trackhawk
 
Awesome, awesome, awesome!
I was waiting for Jeep to build something like this. Impressive machine.
Imagine pulling up to a stop light and beating 90%,(maybe more), of the vehicles out there from stop light to stop light?!? In an suv, no less. :grin: :confused:
Does mid 11's in the quarter mile as well. Impressive.


shaneyusa 11/11/17 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Stage_3 (Post 7022267)
Awesome, awesome, awesome!
I was waiting for Jeep to build something like this. Impressive machine.
Imagine pulling up to a stop light and beating 90%,(maybe more), of the vehicles out there from stop light to stop light?!? In an suv, no less. :grin: :confused:
Does mid 11's in the quarter mile as well. Impressive.

Love, love, love to have one... It is only $$$ right! Need to have one as my daily driver. :grin:

Boy he was giggling like a little girl in that review. Big old grin on his face. I think he liked it.

Stage_3 11/12/17 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by shaneyusa (Post 7022277)
Love, love, love to have one... It is only $$$ right! Need to have one as my daily driver. :grin:
Boy he was giggling like a little girl in that review. Big old grin on his face. I think he liked it.

LOL
Definitely. I would love to have one as a daily driver. Beast mode for sure.

1 Alibi 2 11/13/17 09:01 AM

Would have been nice to have an adult review..
.

Stage_3 11/13/17 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by 1 Alibi 2 (Post 7022328)
Would have been nice to have an adult review..
.

LMFAO :grin:

I agree.

Mustang Freak 11/14/17 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by 1 Alibi 2
Would have been nice to have an adult review..
.

:rofl2:

Stage_3 12/16/17 08:36 AM

Here's a much better one!


Stage_3 12/17/17 08:49 AM

Another great review.

As you can see,........I've been doing some homework. My Dodge salesman has 4 on order and they will be here in late February. I only know because I emailed him. I want to check it out in person, sit in it and do a test drive. I would order one if I did buy one. I want it optioned and in the color that I want. He will let me know when they come in.
I like this vehicle and the Z06/Z07. These are the only 2 on my "list". I'm still waiting for the new GT500 as well, which should be another 3 weeks or so.

(The Z06/Z07 will replace the Roush and the Jeep would replace the Ram. The GT500 would replace the Roush as well, if I like it/can order how I want it/availability. Leaning a little more towards the Jeep as it would be like driving a Hellcat all year round. Best of both worlds. Stupid fast and daily driven.)

Stage_3 12/22/17 11:45 AM

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Hot damnnnnnnnnnnn that is so freaking hot!!!
I'd love to get either this color, Velvet Red or the Redline Pearl 2.

Stage_3 12/22/17 03:06 PM

Yes,.....she is a beast!!!
Disregard the moron kids making the video. Skip to the 3 minute mark if you just want to view from outside the vehicle. Beast.
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Mustang Freak 12/23/17 05:58 AM

Another fan boy... :shame:
:devil:

Stage_3 12/23/17 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Mustang Freak (Post 7023399)
Another fan boy... :shame:
:devil:

HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I've always wanted and liked the SRT Jeeps, but this is a "whole 'nother level". :grin:

Sarge 12/23/17 11:04 AM

How long until I see one on the road with a lift kit, ultra-low profile tires, and chrome spinners?

Stage_3 12/23/17 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 7023407)
How long until I see one on the road with a lift kit, ultra-low profile tires, and chrome spinners?

I hope right after never Pete! lol
:grin:

Sarge 12/23/17 04:12 PM

It's just a matter of time. Search your heart; you know it to be truth.

Stage_3 12/24/17 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 7023424)
It's just a matter of time. Search your heart; you know it to be truth.

Yeah,.......there are morons out there that might do this. lol :grin:

shaneyusa 12/28/17 07:32 AM

I have been a Jeep GC fan for a long time. Really REALLY want one of these, or I would love to even have an SRT. Too much $$$. I have settled for a new daily driver, JGC Trailhawk, not Trackhawk. :shame: Replaced my 2004 JGC. So far I am on my 5th Jeep... Love em.

So I guess I will have to live through you Tony, keep it coming. :nice:

Stage_3 12/28/17 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by shaneyusa (Post 7023591)
I have been a Jeep GC fan for a long time. Really REALLY want one of these, or I would love to even have an SRT. Too much $$$. I have settled for a new daily driver, JGC Trailhawk, not Trackhawk. :shame: Replaced my 2004 JGC. So far I am on my 5th Jeep... Love em.
So I guess I will have to live through you Tony, keep it coming. :nice:

LOL
Thanks man. I'm definitely getting one if they work on getting me a good trade-in on my truck. Nothing positive yet. I wouldn't order until maybe late March, so I can have it for summer time fun. ;) So we shall see.

******Quick question for you.
How awesome, or not so awesome is the awd on the Jeeps when being driven in the snow? I always thought they were 4X4, except for the Trackhawk and SRT8, but I was corrected and that are all awd and work incredibly well. I would love to hear an owners personal opinion.
This plays a pretty important part as well in me purchasing, but I've read nothing but great reviews on Jeeps in the snow. Even the SRT 8 Jeeps.
Thank you!!

shaneyusa 12/28/17 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by Stage_3 (Post 7023604)
LOL
Thanks man. I'm definitely getting one if they work on getting me a good trade-in on my truck. Nothing positive yet. I wouldn't order until maybe late March, so I can have it for summer time fun. ;) So we shall see.

******Quick question for you.
How awesome, or not so awesome is the awd on the Jeeps when being driven in the snow? I always thought they were 4X4, except for the Trackhawk and SRT8, but I was corrected and that are all awd and work incredibly well. I would love to hear an owners personal opinion.
This plays a pretty important part as well in me purchasing, but I've read nothing but great reviews on Jeeps in the snow. Even the SRT 8 Jeeps.
Thank you!!

The JGC are 4X4s, not AWD. But they are 4WD all the time. There is no 2WD option. The Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD system is different than any other system out there. Great design IMHO. They are nearly unstoppable in the snow, mud, or sand compared to other systems. Never had an issue. Last year we had the year of Snowpocalypse. More snow than we have had for a very long time. Both my 2004 WJ and our 2012 WK2 went anywhere we wanted. The 2012 is an Overland with a 5.7 and has 20” looker tires (Goodyear Fortera) all season tires, not necessarily the best. But it still went anywhere we tried to take it with no issues. The WK2 build is amazing on slick roads. Every model seems to get better than the last. I am a believer. I would trust it to get me through with sensible driving.

Stage_3 12/29/17 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by shaneyusa (Post 7023612)
The JGC are 4X4s, not AWD. But they are 4WD all the time. There is no 2WD option. The Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD system is different than any other system out there. Great design IMHO. They are nearly unstoppable in the snow, mud, or sand compared to other systems. Never had an issue. Last year we had the year of Snowpocalypse. More snow than we have had for a very long time. Both my 2004 WJ and our 2012 WK2 went anywhere we wanted. The 2012 is an Overland with a 5.7 and has 20” looker tires (Goodyear Fortera) all season tires, not necessarily the best. But it still went anywhere we tried to take it with no issues. The WK2 build is amazing on slick roads. Every model seems to get better than the last. I am a believer. I would trust it to get me through with sensible driving.

Thank you for your reply/personal review. I appreciate it.

So, I was correct then. I thought they were all 4X4, except for the SRT at the time, but now including the Trackhawk. Someone posted that it has the most advanced 4X4 and awd system out there. I can believe it.
So,...we'll see how it goes. I'm going to check it out in person and test drive one when the Dodge dealership I go to gets one. They're getting 4 Trackhawks. I bet one is for the owner. lol I wouldn't order till late March/April anyways. Nothing in concrete yet as it all depends on well they treat me with my trade-in. They did good with my last truck. So, we'll see.

shaneyusa 12/30/17 04:46 PM

Looking forward to you updates on this. I would really love to get one. But looking like it will top $100K. I thought the SRTs at $77K was plenty. Little rich for my blood. Scared to by a used SRT, but have looked. Most are trashed. I am keep a watch out for the right one. My little Trailhawk is a v6 and it does very well for a daily commuter. Do like getting 20mpg. Not quite what I wanted for power, but I have the 2012 if I need power. I could not find a HEMI that was fully equipped in either the Trailhawk or Overland. Don't want a Summit, just too foofoo for me. If I ordered would have had to wait 4 to 5 months and decided against it. Bought at the end of June, and supply was very limited on the V8's. So if you are getting something make sure you don't wait too long.

Here is some info you might like on the subject...

SRT/Trackhawk system... Quadra-Trac SRT

Quadra-Drive II/Quadra-Trac II (Trailhawk & option on others)

Quadra-Drive II

Quadra-Trac II (older I version here)

Stage_3 12/31/17 09:05 AM

^^Awesome post man. I really appreciate it. I will watch every single one after I come home from the gym. Awesome. :nice:

Yeah, the SRT8 is a lot of money as well. I would be weary of buying anything that is a used muscle car or sports car. The Trackhawk is very expensive. The one I want and built is just under 90k. It's pretty much already loaded up. I don't want the sunroof or the premium leather. I LOVE the alcantra and leather seating much better. So, excluding those 2 items right there saves me a ton of cash.
Like I said, it depends on how well they treat my trade-in. If I like the numbers, I'll do it. If not, no harm done. (You don't ask, you don't get. :grin: lol) I can only imagine how bad *** it must be to driving automotive history. The fastest and most horsepower stock suv out there.

Again, thanks for the videos man. I appreciate it.

shaneyusa 1/1/18 09:59 AM

I have priced my dream version too, about $97K plus tax and title. Maybe if I win the lotto, but you have to play first. :grin:

Not a fan of the fake suede. After seeing a few used ones on the lot found it is not what I thought it was. Nothing more than a a microfiber cloth insert, it is not leather at all. Not even a good fake leather. Terrible and a lint catcher to boot. Make sure you look at a few used before you buy this option. It does not hold up and has gotten a pile of complaints.

Also the pano top is awesome. Have it in both of mine. Really lightens up the cabin. But I also like the glasstop on my Mustang too, and know you are not a fan.

Good Luck and keep it coming.

And a Happy New Year to all you guys! :nice:

Stage_3 1/1/18 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by shaneyusa (Post 7023727)
I have priced my dream version too, about $97K plus tax and title. Maybe if I win the lotto, but you have to play first. :grin:
Not a fan of the fake suede. After seeing a few used ones on the lot found it is not what I thought it was. Nothing more than a a microfiber cloth insert, it is not leather at all. Not even a good fake leather. Terrible and a lint catcher to boot. Make sure you look at a few used before you buy this option. It does not hold up and has gotten a pile of complaints.
Also the pano top is awesome. Have it in both of mine. Really lightens up the cabin. But I also like the glasstop on my Mustang too, and know you are not a fan.
Good Luck and keep it coming.
And a Happy New Year to all you guys! :nice:


Yeah,.......97K is out of my range as well. Then add in taxes and all that jazz. No thanks. :doh: lol (I'm looking to get over 30K for my truck. Only 2 years old and low mileage, only at 10,400 at the moment. Plus, well kept and ceramic coated as well. This is the only reason I can afford a Trackhawk.)

That sucks about the alcantara seating. I like that much better than the leather. I was under the impression it was the leather seating that was having issues with wear and not the alcantara? I don't care for the all leather seating to be honest. I like the looks of the alcantara/leather seating instead. Not because it's cheaper, but I honestly like the looks better. My Roush is the same way. Breaks up the all leather look.
Happy and healthy New Year bro!

shaneyusa 1/1/18 09:33 PM

Understand! I know the seating is a personal preference, just not for me. Check it out you may be ok with it. I opted for higher priced perforated leather seats over the Ultrasuede seats in the Trailhawk. Just could not do the Ultrasuede...

Hope they give you what you want out of you rig and things work out! Good Luck!

Stage_3 1/2/18 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by shaneyusa (Post 7023763)
Understand! I know the seating is a personal preference, just not for me. Check it out you may be ok with it. I opted for higher priced perforated leather seats over the Ultrasuede seats in the Trailhawk. Just could not do the Ultrasuede...
Hope they give you what you want out of you rig and things work out! Good Luck!

Thanks man. I appreciate the kind words and info.
I will keep you posted.


Originally Posted by Gravydog316 (Post 7023782)
I saw a HUGE shiny new Jeep driving the other night,
but it was too dark to check it out.
Any guesses what it was?
It was the biggest Jeep I have ever seen!!

Without photos, it's hard to tell. The Trackhawk looks like a Grand Cherokee, but a bit more sportier and faster. Way faster! lol

Stage_3 1/3/18 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Gravydog316 (Post 7023829)
The one i saw was at night & like 7 feet high

Yeah,......that definitely WAS NOT a Trackhawk then. lol

shaneyusa 1/3/18 10:58 PM

This will get you going...


fourdegrees11 1/4/18 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by shaneyusa (Post 7023860)

Holy cow that thing launches like a rocket, made the challenger look slow out of the hole. Have we got an official weight? That's one thing Dodge/Jeep havent figured out, how to build a vehicle that isnt a boat

shaneyusa 1/4/18 07:26 AM

Haven’t found any official numbers on weight, but looks like around 5360 lbs according to the press. Nothing in Jeeps material that I can find. The quick launch is possible because of Jeeps 4x4 system that is designed to move power to the wheels with traction. It does very little spinning of the tires.

Could one of you guys buy me one already?:jester:

Stage_3 1/4/18 09:36 AM

HA HAAAAAAAAAAAA :D

I think the weight is 5,500 lbs. But, it is a Jeep after all, right??
The thing that gets me is that thing will beat almost all the cars out there right now from 0-60. AND, it will probably beat most cars out there in a 1/4 mile race. That is nasty. Most videos I have seen are WITHOUT launch control engaged as you cannot engage it till after the 500 mile "break-in" period. Disgusting!! lol :D
Of course, I'm talking stock versus stock.

Stage_3 1/4/18 11:49 AM

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Holy smokes!!! lol
100% completely stock.

SpectreH 1/4/18 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Stage_3 (Post 7023883)
Holy smokes!!! lol
100% completely stock.

That is one impressive Fiat!

fourdegrees11 1/4/18 07:04 PM

That 60' time is crazy, guys on a full drag pack struggle to hit those kind of times. This thing has the potential to be an 1/8 mile beast, but it definitely starts to loose its advantage the further out you go

Stage_3 1/5/18 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by SpectreH (Post 7023885)
That is one impressive Fiat!

Very impressive indeed. lol


Originally Posted by fourdegrees11 (Post 7023904)
That 60' time is crazy, guys on a full drag pack struggle to hit those kind of times. This thing has the potential to be an 1/8 mile beast, but it definitely starts to loose its advantage the further out you go

I concur. It loses steam the longer it goes out.
But, those 0-60 and quarter mile times!?! For a Grand Cherokee?!?! :confused:

denlem 1/10/18 04:16 PM

I have the regular Cherokee Trailhawk. The 4WD in that is awesome. With my 2014 I passed so many people on hills in the snow. I have a 2017 now and haven't had a chance to be out in the snow yet, but the same system so it should be just as good.

This is my 4WD system...


Stage_3 1/10/18 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by denlem (Post 7024122)
I have the regular Cherokee Trailhawk. The 4WD in that is awesome. With my 2014 I passed so many people on hills in the snow. I have a 2017 now and haven't had a chance to be out in the snow yet, but the same system so it should be just as good.
This is my 4WD system...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvQVaFKPIPI

That's awesome Dennis. :nice:
I take it you like the Jeeps as you had a 2014 and now a 2017, correct?

denlem 1/11/18 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Stage_3 (Post 7024127)
That's awesome Dennis. :nice:
I take it you like the Jeeps as you had a 2014 and now a 2017, correct?

I liked the 2014 but had a lot of trouble with it. Transmissions were developing problems and mine was one of them. I had mine replaced but it was never the same. I struggled through and finally got rid of it and got a 2017 Hyundai Tucson. I wasn't a fan of that and saw a good deal back in August on a new 2017 Cherokee and grabbed it. So far so good with it!

Stage_3 1/11/18 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by denlem (Post 7024155)
I liked the 2014 but had a lot of trouble with it. Transmissions were developing problems and mine was one of them. I had mine replaced but it was never the same. I struggled through and finally got rid of it and got a 2017 Hyundai Tucson. I wasn't a fan of that and saw a good deal back in August on a new 2017 Cherokee and grabbed it. So far so good with it!

That sucks about the 2014. Let me guess????? The clunking sound??
Hopefully the new one is going to be a great ride for you man. Good luck Dennis.

denlem 1/11/18 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Stage_3 (Post 7024157)
That sucks about the 2014. Let me guess????? The clunking sound??
Hopefully the new one is going to be a great ride for you man. Good luck Dennis.

Clunking, slamming, etc. One of the issues with the 9 speed was supposed to be a snap ring position. I guess it could break or something like that. One of the recalls had you bring it into the dealer and they would hook it up to the computer and stress it and have it fail. Mine passed, then failed a few weeks later. :doh:

I was tempted for a GC when I got the 2017 and there was a nice one in the showroom. My wallet said no though.

Stage_3 1/12/18 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by denlem (Post 7024164)
Clunking, slamming, etc. One of the issues with the 9 speed was supposed to be a snap ring position. I guess it could break or something like that. One of the recalls had you bring it into the dealer and they would hook it up to the computer and stress it and have it fail. Mine passed, then failed a few weeks later. :doh:

I was tempted for a GC when I got the 2017 and there was a nice one in the showroom. My wallet said no though.

That sucks man. That's always the case. Right after being in the shop, the issues arise.
Good luck with the new ride Dennis. Enjoy. :nice:

Stage_3 10/14/18 01:31 PM

Went to my local Dodge dealership today to look at the Trackhawk that they have in the showroom. What a MISTAKE!!! lol
I want one. What a beast. Such a beautiful machine. (Also, the fastest and most horsepower SUV in the world. Can't forget that!!! lol) I've been doing a lot of research on them lately.

The reason I went was to sit in it and see if I like it. Reminds me a lot of my truck, only a lot nicer!! lol The ones with the moonroofs have the alcantara pillars and roof lining. I don't want the moonroof though. It takes about 6-8 weeks for delivery as I am going to order mine, probably early/mid March. They are marking that one down a lot. It has the moonroof, which is the only downfall. I can live with the color as well. Looks absolutely killer with the black wheels and yellow calipers. Filthy!! lol
So, we'll see how it goes. If I get what I want for my truck, I'm ordering one. If not, well,.........it wasn't meant to be.

shaneyusa 10/14/18 06:24 PM

:drool: Sounds like a winner to me! What color are you looking at?

Stage_3 10/15/18 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by shaneyusa (Post 7035937)
:drool: Sounds like a winner to me! What color are you looking at?

Thanks bro.
I have no idea yet. I like the black, but that's a ***** to keep clean, so probably not. I like the Redline Red as well. The one they had in the showroom was the Velvet Red. That looked killer with the black wheels and yellow calipers.

I just hope I can afford it. I won't know till mid-March when I go to see if we can strike a deal. Plus, it depends what they give me on my truck. I'm not going to give it away. I should have a raise coming early next year as well too, so that should help. I really want that Jeep. It's a beast, but if you ever get to sit in one and walk around it, please do. It's really nice and you can tell it's a monster in sheep's clothing. lol

Rog13GTCS 10/17/18 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Stage_3 (Post 7035959)
Thanks bro.
I have no idea yet. I like the black, but that's a ***** to keep clean, so probably not. I like the Redline Red as well. The one they had in the showroom was the Velvet Red. That looked killer with the black wheels and yellow calipers.

I just hope I can afford it. I won't know till mid-March when I go to see if we can strike a deal. Plus, it depends what they give me on my truck. I'm not going to give it away. I should have a raise coming early next year as well too, so that should help. I really want that Jeep. It's a beast, but if you ever get to sit in one and walk around it, please do. It's really nice and you can tell it's a monster in sheep's clothing. lol

Do those have the Hellcat engine? I'm not sure if they deal much on those, maybe I'm wrong. I'm needing a 4 door car, and thinking of the GC Trailhawk, plus I'd like to do some mild offroading, though the new JL Wranglers do look nice.

Check out the Jeep Forum and Jeep Garage looking for the GC section.

Stage_3 10/18/18 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Rog13GTCS (Post 7036007)
Do those have the Hellcat engine? I'm not sure if they deal much on those, maybe I'm wrong. I'm needing a 4 door car, and thinking of the GC Trailhawk, plus I'd like to do some mild offroading, though the new JL Wranglers do look nice.
Check out the Jeep Forum and Jeep Garage looking for the GC section.

Yes, the Trackhawk is the beast. Has the Hellcat engine. The fastest and most horsepower stock SUV out there to date. I am a member on Jeep Garage and have been for quite some time now. I also troll on the Trackhawk forum to browse around and am a member on the Hellcat.org site which has a Trackhawk forum.
Burton has a new Wrangler. A buddy at work would love to buy a new Rubicon. He keeps talking about it and showing me photos. They look really ice.

Mustang Freak 10/18/18 08:28 PM

Fanboy... :heh:

Stage_3 10/19/18 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Mustang Freak (Post 7036045)
Fanboy... :heh:

LMFAO

I like the Jaguar F-Pace SVR as well, but I want to stick with American muscle, even though the Jaguar is A LOT nicer interior-wise.
That vehicle isn't coming out till 2019. I don't think they'll be on showroom floors till the first quarter sometime. Some people have them on order already. lol (550HP supercharged V8 and over 500TQ. Pretty quick too. Does 0-60 in 4.1 seconds.)

Rog13GTCS 10/22/18 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by Stage_3 (Post 7036028)
Yes, the Trackhawk is the beast. Has the Hellcat engine. The fastest and most horsepower stock SUV out there to date. I am a member on Jeep Garage and have been for quite some time now. I also troll on the Trackhawk forum to browse around and am a member on the Hellcat.org site which has a Trackhawk forum.
Burton has a new Wrangler. A buddy at work would love to buy a new Rubicon. He keeps talking about it and showing me photos. They look really ice.

I've looked at the Rubicons too, and would love to buy one, but 50K for a Wrangler is holding me back ;). Though depending on how you option the Trailhawk, I'm looking at 45ish.

shaneyusa 10/22/18 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Rog13GTCS (Post 7036127)
I've looked at the Rubicons too, and would love to buy one, but 50K for a Wrangler is holding me back ;). Though depending on how you option the Trailhawk, I'm looking at 45ish.

Kind of surprised me too. I bought a 17' Trailhawk fully loaded except I opted for a V6. Could not find any V8s with the options I wanted and did not want to order. Paid $42K without a trade. Was looking at the Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Recon first. Awesome vehicle, Really liked it! Just could not give up the tech items that were not offered on the JK. Not sure about the new models, but it felt like I got a whole lot more vehicle for the money with the Grand Cherokee Trailhawk over the Wrangler Unlimited. Wrangler only comes with the same V6 I bought. But I guess it really depends on how you are going to use it. JGC made a lot more sense for me. Could have gotten an '18 V8 for just over $45K, but would have had to wait about 8+ weeks because of the model year change. Now wish I would have ordered the V8. All I can say is that now my DD gets over 20mpg back and forth to work. Been driving it for over 15 months.

Now if I had plenty of spending cash the Trackhawk is what I really wanted. Just way too much denaro for me. :grin:

Stage_3 10/23/18 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by Rog13GTCS (Post 7036127)
I've looked at the Rubicons too, and would love to buy one, but 50K for a Wrangler is holding me back ;). Though depending on how you option the Trailhawk, I'm looking at 45ish.

Yeah,.....that's insane. I was shocked when I heard a loaded Rubicon is over 50K. WOW!


Originally Posted by shaneyusa (Post 7036131)
Now if I had plenty of spending cash the Trackhawk is what I really wanted. Just way too much denaro for me. :grin:

LMFAO
I want a Trackhawk bad bro. After sitting in it and being up close to it checking it out, yeah, it's a bad *****! lol
If I can afford it,..........I'm ordering one. It is a lot of cake for sure. I don't look at the full amount, I look at the monthly payment-wise. Insurance might be pretty expensive as well. :confused: :fear:

shaneyusa 10/23/18 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Stage_3 (Post 7036151)
Yeah,.....that's insane. I was shocked when I heard a loaded Rubicon is over 50K. WOW!


LMFAO
I want a Trackhawk bad bro. After sitting in it and being up close to it checking it out, yeah, it's a bad *****! lol
If I can afford it,..........I'm ordering one. It is a lot of cake for sure. I don't look at the full amount, I look at the monthly payment-wise. Insurance might be pretty expensive as well. :confused: :fear:

Basically $100k, ouch. :doh: Love to have one, of course I would even settle for a JGC SRT. At least that can be had for under $80k. That too is one awesome rig. Sure don't see these at dealerships now that the Trackhawk is out. Might find one for cheap. :grin:

Stage_3 10/24/18 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by shaneyusa (Post 7036157)
Basically $100k, ouch. :doh: Love to have one, of course I would even settle for a JGC SRT. At least that can be had for under $80k. That too is one awesome rig. Sure don't see these at dealerships now that the Trackhawk is out. Might find one for cheap. :grin:

Yeah,.....the SRT Jeep is a beast as well.
I don't want a loaded Trackhawk so the price is about 90-92K. With my trade,...it's not so bad. Depending if they give me what I want for it. The Trackhawk is already pretty loaded. I don't want the moonroof , which is about 2k off right there.

Stage_3 10/24/18 03:22 PM

I have to add,.......I'm only going to trade-in if I get what I want for my truck.
Mint condition 2016 Ram Sport 4X4 rcsb in Bright White, Cquartz Finest coated, 2" rear drop kit, Flowmaster Outlaw direct replacement muffler, with only 14,500 miles at the moment. I'm thinking by the time I get ready to trade, I'll have about 16,500.

shaneyusa 10/24/18 04:56 PM

Well I wish you luck with your swap when/if it happens! Hope they are in a very generous mood and give you a great deal! :nice:

Rog13GTCS 10/24/18 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by shaneyusa (Post 7036131)
Kind of surprised me too. I bought a 17' Trailhawk fully loaded except I opted for a V6. Could not find any V8s with the options I wanted and did not want to order. Paid $42K without a trade. Was looking at the Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Recon first. Awesome vehicle, Really liked it! Just could not give up the tech items that were not offered on the JK. Not sure about the new models, but it felt like I got a whole lot more vehicle for the money with the Grand Cherokee Trailhawk over the Wrangler Unlimited. Wrangler only comes with the same V6 I bought. But I guess it really depends on how you are going to use it. JGC made a lot more sense for me. Could have gotten an '18 V8 for just over $45K, but would have had to wait about 8+ weeks because of the model year change. Now wish I would have ordered the V8. All I can say is that now my DD gets over 20mpg back and forth to work. Been driving it for over 15 months.

Now if I had plenty of spending cash the Trackhawk is what I really wanted. Just way too much denaro for me. :grin:

The new JL's are really nice. The wife is trying to talk common sense into me, that a GC would be better for me and us, and she's right. I'd probably prefer the comforts of the GC over the Rubi. Though the new JL's have come a long way in terms of creature comforts. I could actually get 4 or 5 people in it, and drive it to lunch! My co-workers would appreciate that :D.

We dont live in an off roading area so there would be a limited amount I could realistically do, yearly. Plus the Jeep dealers seem to discount and deal more with the GC more than a Wrangler. We will see. Currently, I'm saving for a down payment. Looking to purchase around March.

Have you taken yours offroad? How do you like the Air suspension? How's the V6, since you said you would have preferred the V8. I dont have any visions of doing any "hardcore" off roading like rock/boulder crawling, but there are some easy and moderate trails I would like to do in Colorado and Moab before I get too old.

shaneyusa 10/24/18 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by Rog13GTCS (Post 7036210)
The new JL's are really nice. The wife is trying to talk common sense into me, that a GC would be better for me and us, and she's right. I'd probably prefer the comforts of the GC over the Rubi. Though the new JL's have come a long way in terms of creature comforts. I could actually get 4 or 5 people in it, and drive it to lunch! My co-workers would appreciate that :D.

We dont live in an off roading area so there would be a limited amount I could realistically do, yearly. Plus the Jeep dealers seem to discount and deal more with the GC more than a Wrangler. We will see. Currently, I'm saving for a down payment. Looking to purchase around March.

Have you taken yours offroad? How do you like the Air suspension? How's the V6, since you said you would have preferred the V8. I dont have any visions of doing any "hardcore" off roading like rock/boulder crawling, but there are some easy and moderate trails I would like to do in Colorado and Moab before I get too old.

I really like the ride of this JGC. Infact I love everything about it except one thing. You guessed it. Mine is equipped with the safety package, blindspot, luxury package with leather, basically everything except block heater and rock rails which I did want but could not find. I know it can handle everything I need it to do. I do love the high MPG and it works for what I need it to do but...

Mine has seen very limited back road travel and nothing I would consider real off road. It has seen snow and ice, dirt roads and does excellent in that department. This is my 5th Jeep, first was a small '90 Cherokee, then 4 Grand Cherokees (99, 04, 12,17). Currently I own a 2012 Overland and 2017 Trailhawk Grand Cherokee. The 2012 primarily driven by my wife is the Overland with the Air Suspension and fully decked out (basically equipped like the 12 Overland Summit), it has the 5.7L V8 (360HP 390TQ). That is how I know I would rather have the V8. I just miss the feel of the power and acceleration a V8 offers. My previous two both had the small 4.7L V8, but the '04 Overland was blessed with the 4.7L H.O., an extra 30HP. They both were rated at less HP than the V6 in the new one. But the V6 is noticeably weak on torque. The V6 PentaStar in the JGC TH is rated at 295HP and 262TQ, where the '04 PowerTech was rated at 265HP and 330TQ. You can feel the difference in the missing torque. It lacks acceleration at higher speeds. The TH V6 feels fine from 0-50, but when you are running at 45 and need to pass, especially on a grade, it has very little left to give. Our speed limits are typically 65 to 70 on the two lane back country highways. So passing is important, plenty of slow goers. Most roads have some steep grades and when you need to pass it is nice to have that quick response to do the job. Of course none of these are anything like my Mustang, but come on. When you push the pedal I expect it to wake up and go. V6 makes the noise but has trouble getting out of its own way when I am above 45 or 50.

I believe that the V6 TH will have what it needs to do Colorado or Moab light offroading. Speed is good for what is needed for off road, but lacking for highway. There is a trade off Power or Gas Mileage with the JGC. The V8 can be a gas pig. I have seen it get over 20 mpg on the highway, but our normal driving with it hovers around 14mpg with no crazy Mustang spirited driving or towing. So I am kind of in the best of both. I have a V8 to take when I need it and a V6 to do my commuting. Both are great vehicles and I will be likely to buy another. I really like the Wrangler as well and came very close to buying a 17 Rubicon Recon (Black with Red). But don't expect to get the same mileage with the PentaStar V6 that I am getting on the JGC. The Wranglers are geared for climbing and off road. I know many who have them and most are seeing 13-15 MPG.

The JGC is a much more comfortable traveling rig and is not a full blown off roader, But it can be decked out and compete with the Wrangler. For most people it will do anything you can do in a Wrangler. The Wrangler will do more if your are going to get into serious rock climbing and extreme stuff. It is primarily designed to do that. It is not the most comfortable commuter. It takes a bit of work to drive on highways.

It is a tough decision. Believe me I was there last summer. Drive all three, Wrangler Unlimited, and both gas engines in the JGC. Some are very high on the diesel as well, but I don't have experience with that one. You will know what is right for you once you give them a try. Good Luck!

shaneyusa 10/25/18 06:57 AM

Did not say much about the air lift system... Works well. Can lift approx 4" above normal ride height. Can drop around 3". settings allow choice to turn on an auto drop to curb height when parked. This is nice and helps when you don't want to have to climb in to a tall rig. I really do not notice much difference in ride from any other higher end SUV. Handles corners well, no real sway when steering back and forth (Say quick lane changes). Ride is very stable and not what I would call soft, ride is firm but not jarring or harsh. The system works well and is able to provide the extra clearance when needed. I do like that it auto adjusts to an aero mode when driving at highway speeds to help with handling and MPG. You will like it!

Stage_3 10/25/18 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by shaneyusa (Post 7036187)
Well I wish you luck with your swap when/if it happens! Hope they are in a very generous mood and give you a great deal! :nice:

Thank you sir!
I really appreciate that! :)

Gabe 10/25/18 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Stage_3 (Post 7036053)
LMFAO

I like the Jaguar F-Pace SVR as well, but I want to stick with American muscle, even though the Jaguar is A LOT nicer interior-wise.
That vehicle isn't coming out till 2019. I don't think they'll be on showroom floors till the first quarter sometime. Some people have them on order already. lol (550HP supercharged V8 and over 500TQ. Pretty quick too. Does 0-60 in 4.1 seconds.)

Same engine as the Range Rover 5.0 SC hi-output models ... just learned all about them in my new Service Advisor training ... up to 575 hp and 516 ft-lbs of torque ... and yeah, over $130k but you know ... Range Rover, not Jeep .... lol

Rog13GTCS 10/25/18 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by shaneyusa (Post 7036221)
I really like the ride of this JGC. Infact I love everything about it except one thing. You guessed it. Mine is equipped with the safety package, blindspot, luxury package with leather, basically everything except block heater and rock rails which I did want but could not find. I know it can handle everything I need it to do. I do love the high MPG and it works for what I need it to do but...

Mine has seen very limited back road travel and nothing I would consider real off road. It has seen snow and ice, dirt roads and does excellent in that department. This is my 5th Jeep, first was a small '90 Cherokee, then 4 Grand Cherokees (99, 04, 12,17). Currently I own a 2012 Overland and 2017 Trailhawk Grand Cherokee. The 2012 primarily driven by my wife is the Overland with the Air Suspension and fully decked out (basically equipped like the 12 Overland Summit), it has the 5.7L V8 (360HP 390TQ). That is how I know I would rather have the V8. I just miss the feel of the power and acceleration a V8 offers. My previous two both had the small 4.7L V8, but the '04 Overland was blessed with the 4.7L H.O., an extra 30HP. They both were rated at less HP than the V6 in the new one. But the V6 is noticeably weak on torque. The V6 PentaStar in the JGC TH is rated at 295HP and 262TQ, where the '04 PowerTech was rated at 265HP and 330TQ. You can feel the difference in the missing torque. It lacks acceleration at higher speeds. The TH V6 feels fine from 0-50, but when you are running at 45 and need to pass, especially on a grade, it has very little left to give. Our speed limits are typically 65 to 70 on the two lane back country highways. So passing is important, plenty of slow goers. Most roads have some steep grades and when you need to pass it is nice to have that quick response to do the job. Of course none of these are anything like my Mustang, but come on. When you push the pedal I expect it to wake up and go. V6 makes the noise but has trouble getting out of its own way when I am above 45 or 50.

I believe that the V6 TH will have what it needs to do Colorado or Moab light offroading. Speed is good for what is needed for off road, but lacking for highway. There is a trade off Power or Gas Mileage with the JGC. The V8 can be a gas pig. I have seen it get over 20 mpg on the highway, but our normal driving with it hovers around 14mpg with no crazy Mustang spirited driving or towing. So I am kind of in the best of both. I have a V8 to take when I need it and a V6 to do my commuting. Both are great vehicles and I will be likely to buy another. I really like the Wrangler as well and came very close to buying a 17 Rubicon Recon (Black with Red). But don't expect to get the same mileage with the PentaStar V6 that I am getting on the JGC. The Wranglers are geared for climbing and off road. I know many who have them and most are seeing 13-15 MPG.

The JGC is a much more comfortable traveling rig and is not a full blown off roader, But it can be decked out and compete with the Wrangler. For most people it will do anything you can do in a Wrangler. The Wrangler will do more if your are going to get into serious rock climbing and extreme stuff. It is primarily designed to do that. It is not the most comfortable commuter. It takes a bit of work to drive on highways.

It is a tough decision. Believe me I was there last summer. Drive all three, Wrangler Unlimited, and both gas engines in the JGC. Some are very high on the diesel as well, but I don't have experience with that one. You will know what is right for you once you give them a try. Good Luck!

Thank you for the insight. I definitely want to test drive both, and will probably do that around the holidays. I plan on ordering when I finally decide which way I want to go, and would like to do that in Jan or Feb.

Rog13GTCS 10/25/18 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Gabe (Post 7036251)
Same engine as the Range Rover 5.0 SC hi-output models ... just learned all about them in my new Service Advisor training ... up to 575 hp and 516 ft-lbs of torque ... and yeah, over $130k but you know ... Range Rover, not Jeep .... lol

Nice sounding engine, but 130K. Out of my price range. If I would have only won the Mega Millions.

Gabe 10/25/18 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Rog13GTCS (Post 7036257)
Nice sounding engine, but 130K. Out of my price range. If I would have only won the Mega Millions.

Lol, same here.
They're such cool vehicles ... Air suspension that automatically lowers when you get out, seriously awesome interiors, great looks ... Yeah I'm kinda in love. I want a Range Rover Sport SVR. 557 HP and 516 ft-lbs and just amazing looks inside and out.
As a Mega Millions winner I'd instantly own one.
And probably one of these Hellcat Jeeps too :)

Stage_3 10/26/18 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Gabe (Post 7036251)
Same engine as the Range Rover 5.0 SC hi-output models ... just learned all about them in my new Service Advisor training ... up to 575 hp and 516 ft-lbs of torque ... and yeah, over $130k but you know ... Range Rover, not Jeep .... lol

HOLY CRAP!!! 130K?!?!? lol That's out of my league as well. The Jeep is a bit out of my league as well, but I'm sacrificing to make it happen. Hopefully!!

How's the new job treating you so far? I hope good.

Gabe 10/26/18 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by Stage_3 (Post 7036280)
HOLY CRAP!!! 130K?!?!? lol That's out of my league as well. The Jeep is a bit out of my league as well, but I'm sacrificing to make it happen. Hopefully!!

How's the new job treating you so far? I hope good.

It's OK. Not in love with finding out things that weren't disclosed to me during the interview process, things that will cost me extra time and make me work harder than I expected. Doing other people's job sucks when you don't expect it. Not getting paid on certain things that the industry standard has you getting commission on them, that sucks too.

Stage_3 10/27/18 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by Gabe (Post 7036287)
It's OK. Not in love with finding out things that weren't disclosed to me during the interview process, things that will cost me extra time and make me work harder than I expected. Doing other people's job sucks when you don't expect it. Not getting paid on certain things that the industry standard has you getting commission on them, that sucks too.

Yeah, that wicked sucks. Sorry bro.
Hopefully a better opportunity comes along. Good luck!


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