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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:21 AM
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2010 Camaro facing potential costly obstacle

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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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So it will be the 2011 Camaro? ..
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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Or not...

Or if GM doesn't right their ship and get it under way, ASAP perhaps no Camaro ever again...
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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perhaps no Camaro ever again...
thats the kinda world id like to live in
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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Duke nukem forever of the car world.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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Even with the current economic situation the Camaro is going to be a big seller for GM. I had 1 black/gold 87 IROC Z-auto, also an 88 IROC-Z Red manual and they were awesome cars. I think the 2009/2010 is also great however I wouldn't part with my car for 1.

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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFire4.6
Duke nukem forever of the car world.
lol so true!
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 2005GTDELUXE
Even with the current economic situation the Camaro is going to be a big seller for GM. I had 1 black/gold 87 IROC Z-auto, also an 88 IROC-Z Red manual and they were awesome cars. I think the 2009/2010 is also great however I wouldn't part with my car for 1.
We know all the die-hard fans (that still have money) will buy one.
They should have had this show on the road in 2006 (a year after the Mustang).
I think with that in mind, it is laughable that we saw the concept YEARS ago and you still can't drive one.
How is that helping a financially troubled company.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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I would say Camaro will likely either be delayed yet again, or relegated to the dustheap.

Either way, GM is in deep kaka.
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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Wake me when this thing finally hits the streets already...
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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The sad truth is I wanted to see the Trans-Am version which will most likely never exist. As for Camaro, barber shops are ready to bring back the mullet, so GM needs to get it together.
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by shaun_beauchamp
The sad truth is I wanted to see the Trans-Am version which will most likely never exist. As for Camaro, barber shops are ready to bring back the mullet, so GM needs to get it together.
DAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shaun_beauchamp
The sad truth is I wanted to see the Trans-Am version which will most likely never exist. As for Camaro, barber shops are ready to bring back the mullet, so GM needs to get it together.
You mean mullets like this >>



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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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Naw that's not a Camaro Mullet

More like this.




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You mean mullets like this >>



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Old Dec 29, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RedFire4.6
Duke nukem forever of the car world.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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I dont doubt GM will get it together at SOME point, the Camaro may be one of their last hoorahs. I just dont think it will be one of the keys to saving them, especially with the speculated prices thrown around.
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Old Dec 30, 2008 | 10:25 PM
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Probably more costly for them NOT to release it, but it won't be without its delays....

Big seller.. more than likely not.
People are happy there is a 10,000 people signup list.
Great... being that the car has been outta print for more than 5 years....
.... it'll be the years after that'll make or break it, not year 1 or 2
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 05:47 AM
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it might sell great the first year, maybe two. like boomer said, but once the die hard fans get em, i dont see it goin very far
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 07:13 AM
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I agree with Boomer, it would probably be more costly for GM not to launch the Camaro. But, I’m sure the cost issue is one GM has under intense scrutiny. Early in 2008, MotorTrend had reported that the Camaro development team had two major concerns, weight and cost (not necessarily in that order). From the preliminary curb weight numbers, obviously the team lost the battle of the bulge. The Commodore-based Camaro is hundreds of pounds heavier than the Monaro-based GTO, and the GTO was no lightweight. Though GM had thought to price the Camaro head-to-head with the Mustang, they found that $2,000 was as close as they could come and still preserve a margin. Though how slim a margin is just a guess, the fact that GM needs the Camaro to sell in volume suggests the profit margin is pretty thin.

What I gleaned from reading the article is that though GM would hate to delay the launch of the Camaro, the real concern is the potential cost (i.e. re-tooling) this could add to the Camaro project. It is one thing to launch a good, volume-selling product, and make a small profit on each sale. It is quite another to launch a volume-seller with no margin, or at a loss, especially when you are already on financial life-support. The alternative is to pass along a price increase to the consumer to preserve the margin—a move guaranteed to induce fewer sales.
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Old Dec 31, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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They will eventually launch the Camaro, but the the supplier snafu is going to push the launch date way into the future, probably 2011.
But geeze, like I've said before, by the time the Camaro is on the market, it'll be ready for a mid cycle refresh because the design has been out in the public eye for close to four years already!
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