http://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/09/chicago...ith-new-tundra/




I think it looks pretty good, very modern looking. I'm really curious to see how it'll do in terms of mileage. Will it actually be any better than a Ford? And if not, will Toyota get scorned for putting out a gas guzzling big truck? Somehow i don't think so.

 

That looks like a nice truck...




for me to poop on.

 

Not bad. Not bad at all.

 

I would feel like such a tool if I drove that.







And are they really calling their top engine iForce?

 

Reminds me of a Dodge . . .

 

It looks good, hopefully they made sure the horn sounds american as opposed to the high-pitched horns in the foreign cars

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Evil_Capri @ February 9, 2006, 2:25 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Reminds me of a Dodge . . .
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That was my first thought as well.

 

It looks like someone put a hose up the current truck's trailpipe and blew into it until they reached the desired size.

 

Thats a Sorry excuse for a crew cab ive got that much legroom in my ext. cab ford [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/lol.gif[/img] [attachmentid=44835]

 

Gotta agree with that.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mustang_sallad @ February 9, 2006, 2:54 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
And if not, will Toyota get scorned for putting out a gas guzzling big truck? Somehow i don't think so.
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With the screwed up media in this country I would say that is a given.

 

I guess I'd have to see it in person to really judge it but that aside, I like the back end better. I thought the front looked better from the pic Scothew had posted a month or so again but now that I see it more from the side I'm not really digging it at all. I don't know why some manufacturers are going for this "pudgy" look. And I'm not trying to pick on Toyota because Dodge has that look too and I just don't like it.

On another note, I think the press is giving the truck a bit too much credit in the towing department. First of all while 10,000 lbs is a huge improvement over the old design. But the F-150 for example can tow a max of 9,900 lbs which when it comes to towing is essentially the same. Also this truck isn't due for about another 10-11 months and by then who knows what Nissan, GM, and Dodge will do by then in the 1/2 ton market.

And yes, I'm sure there are going to be groups saying that "Toyota is bad, they sell gas guzzlers." But there are always going to be those groups and they have to understand that all auto manufacturers need to compete.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Thats a Sorry excuse for a crew cab ive got that much legroom in my ext. cab ford[/b][/quote]

Yes, they are a bit tight.

 

Interior looks el-cheapo.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(1999 Black 35th GT @ February 10, 2006, 1:13 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
On another note, I think the press is giving the truck a bit too much credit in the towing department. First of all while 10,000 lbs is a huge improvement over the old design. But the F-150 for example can tow a max of 9,900 lbs which when it comes to towing is essentially the same.
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True, but Ford also have F-250 and F-350 which Toyota doesn't have (2500 and 3500 Series). So comparing best Series of Tundra with lowest series of F-Series is not realistic at all.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Red Star @ February 10, 2006, 4:36 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
True, but Ford also have F-250 and F-350 which Toyota doesn't have (2500 and 3500 Series). So comparing best Series of Tundra with lowest series of F-Series is not realistic at all.
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You are right. That's why I compared the two 1/2 tons to each other and not the 250 and 350.

I may have misunderstood what you are trying to say [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img] . Please explain if I have.

Thanks,
Andy

 

No, no, you're right. I misunderstood, I didn't get that you were comparing only 1/2 ton.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Red Star @ February 10, 2006, 4:44 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
No, no, you're right. I misunderstood, I didn't get that you were comparing only 1/2 ton.
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I confuse myself like that all the time. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_mrgreen.gif[/img]

 

Well like all Toyotas, the devil hides in the details where you cant see them(or untill you press a thumb against it). They are king of the paper tiger vehicle. At least its not the frumpy-dump the old 'truck' was. Hopefully it doesn't have all this 'capeability' with a micky mouse suspension, rear axle, thin metal and chintsy interior(although that already looks apparent) like its buddy the Titan.

 

That may well be true, but trucks are the last bastion of the American auto industry, and if the Japanese get THAT formula right, they will be tough to stop. And things are bad enough already:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%">Toyota workers get $10,000 bonuses; GM/Ford workers get $0</span>

Some Asian automakers are showering U.S. plant workers with bonuses averaging up to $10,000 while Detroit's two biggest carmakers have scrapped profit-sharing checks this year because of mounting automotive losses, reports the Detroit News. Toyota awarded each of its 5,600 hourly employees at its largest U.S. plant in Georgetown, Ky., an average of $10,131 for 2005. The plant builds the Camry, the best-selling car in the nation. Honda handed out an average $4,923 to 10,000 associates at its four major Ohio plants. Ford and GM both cut bonuses from $600, and $195 down to $0. Chrysler has yet to announce bonuses, but last year it gave an average of $1500.[/b][/quote]

 

Wow thats a bump from half the pay of a US auto worker! Now they're getting paid almost 3/5ths. Pretty soon they may even get health care and even get paid for overtime. I guess you could call Toyotas bonus' 'hazard pay' for the most dangerous auto company to work for.... You get hurt at Toyota, its 'you go home, you no come back, no trouble!"