'Vette is awesome car, but it can't be compared with GT. Its not all about speed.

 

 

Just like for $26k nothing can touch a base Mustang GT.

The z06 is a heck of a car though. If I had the money I'd buy one but not yellow.

 

GM has also said this isn't going to be the top dog Vette, so they probably have more up their sleeve. I'm pretty sure you will be also not be able to get a Z06 without the appropriate dealer markup, which makes the $65k even more out of reach for most enthusiasts. The new Z06 is probably the best bargain in super/sport car history if you consider the $ to performance ratio. Even if you spend twice as much you aren't likely to touch this level of performance.

 

Ide be interested to see an LPE prepped Z'.

I'm thinking an aggresive cam profile combined with a twin screw lysholm type blower would result in upwards 700 rwhp.

 

I'm not sure what makes you say that. The Ford GT is just slightly over twice as much as the typical Z06 will sticker at, and it easily "touches" the Z06's performance. As for a Vette positioned over this one, the longer this rumour lasts the more baseless it seems. All Blue Devil sightings thus far have been debunked (almost all were Z06 mules) and the most "solid" thing out of GM regarding this car is Bob Lutz Saying that he "guesses" GM will find a way to build a higher performance car than this. However, I think Corvette program director David Hill's statement to Autoweek sums it up best.

Hill states, “If you have an idea that we’re coming in a few years with something a lot better than this, you’re going to spend a lot of time on the sidewalk watching Corvettes go by.�

There is no Blue Devil, at least for GM's sake everybody had better hope that there isn't. Assuming that somehow there really is a BD in development, then GM's execs may actually be the dumbest crew currently in the business world. Why? DO I really need to say it?

GM's mainstream sedans are still largely W body based, a platform that was outdated when it debuted and is far worse than simply outdated now. The company essentially has no mainstream rwd performance car, with the closest thing being the poorly received GTO. The new Cobalt has lost every compact sedan comparo it has been in thus far and finished behind the aging MkI Focus in all of them! Ford has their own list of woes but GM could write a novel about their problems.

GM has a lot bigger fish to fry than another hi-po Vette variant, and even I cannot imagine they are so ignorant that they do not realize this.

 

Jsaylor,
As I said above, alot comes down to whether your a FORD guy or a GM guy. I assume you don't like Chevy at all do you. Just curious. Myself, I like them all. Chrysler 300, now that's a hot sedan. If I was looking for 4 door, that would be the car. If I was looking for an all out sports car under $50,000, Corvette would be my choice. Since my original plan was to purchase a older muscle car, I decided to go with the Mustang so I can take my family for a ride in a great modern-day muscle car. Boy I can't wait for mine to arrive!!!

 

I am obviously a Ford guy, but if I like a car I like the car. I love Porsche's 911 in ways that shouldn't be legal and frankly may not be legal in some states. I have driven several 911's dating up to the mid ninties, and I enjoyed all of them. I have a soft spot for the last gen 300ZX as well and I am absolutely not what you would call a Nissan devotee.

Some of the older GM products get my blood boiling, even though I would be unlikely to buy one of them. The 63-67 Stingray is, IMO, one of the 5 best looking American cars ever built. Without doubt it is absolutely the best looking car GM has ever produced. I have always liked the 68-69 Chevelles and the Buick GSX was jusy incredible. I even like the new Vette, it's everything the homely C5 was just better executed, faster, and in an attractive wrapper.

I am so hard on GM because there isn't much to like right now other than the Vette. The other GM cars worth mentioning are the CTS-V, the Kappa twins (Solstice and Sky), and the GTO even if it is sleep inducing (hey, I can always turn it into a Monaro like God intended) Most eveything else is either over-priced or just not worth considering.

The STS is not especially competitive in it's class but is priced like it is. The price of the XLR has me convinced that somebody at GM really needs to "just say no" to drugs. Chevy's sedan lineup could be a rental car company ad, and might even be dull by that standard. Pontiac has turned into a joke other than the Solstice. Buick is strictly for people that consider a Hover-round their second car and GM has turned Saab into an abomination. The worst part of all is that the most promising new sedans are all headed for Saturn, a brand that is absolutely pointless as it now stands!

Ford may have problems, but cars like the Fusion give me hope, and even cars like the again MkI Focus are still appealing in their own way. When Ford makes a decision you get the impression that somebody genuinely put thought into it and, even if it fails, I can understand why the effort wes made. GM almost seems to not even be trying.

 

Yeah, there was talk about SS 'Vette.

 

Keep in mind the sticker is $65,000. They are marking these cars up over the MSRP (sound familiar?). I saw one just off the truck here in NJ, the sticker was 68,250...they sold the car for $90,000!

 

I believe the Shelby will keep up with the new Z06 i was right about the new Z06 keeping up with the Ford GT and i will be right about this one.

 

Ill prove my point in a new magazine they had a Ford GT and the new viper coupe and the new z06 go head to head they said the Zo6 smoked the viper and was just as quick as the 150 grand ford GT for alot less. And MMFF test drove a 04 cobra and got it to do 12.4 in the quarter and ford promises us that the Shelby will go faster so im predicting the shelby will do about 11.9 and they got the z06 to do 11.7 so there you go. There is noway the Z06 is going to leave the shelby by much.

 

I thought MM&FF did a 12.6 with the 04 Cobra...

 

I can really appreciate the Z06. Definitely an amazing car and a great bang for the buck but like Knight and jsaylor said its not a GT.

The GT is a pure bred race car straight out of the box. The Z06 puts up a great fight but its not going to compare in the long run with the GT.

 

I really like the 06 Z06. It's one of the best looking Vettes ever. What I don't like is the price. They have several of them on ebay for around 80 large....that's too much for a new vette, now matter how much hp it has

 

I gotta disagree there Zach. At first 80 g's does seem steep for a Vette, but all you have to do is like at the prices of it's competition and the Vette looks like the bargain of the century (relatively speaking).

 

I could throw a 600hp engine in a 93 civic hatch and charge you $40,000. It'll be faster then the Z06 Vette but its still a Honda Civic. and I woudn't consider it the deal of the century.

 

I see your point. Lambo's and Ferrari's go for 2 or 3 hundred large....It's a bargain compared to the Ford GT

 

Yeah, but it was Convertible.

 

It's not all about straight line speed. You could build yourself a 1000hp mustang that would destroy any Ferrari, Lamborghini, or Porsche at the drag strip, but that doesn't make it a better car. And that 600hp 93 Civic hatch isn't going to be able to pull 0.98g's with a full interior, it isn't going to be something you'd want to drive often. It isn't going to feel safe at more than 100mph where the Z06 could VERY easily run at 150 all day. The Z06 is not some crappy kit-car, it's a race car for the street and it is the most affordable supercar in a long long time.