2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

Whoring out the Mustang?

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Old May 3, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mail906
No question. It's a sign of desperation. They have nothing that sells, so they keep rechroming the SN197.
As others have pointed out, the number of actual Ford "special editions" isn't any higher than in previous Mustang generations. Most of the "special editions" are made by the AFTERMARKET (Roush, Steeda, Saleen, etc.)
Originally Posted by mail906
The reality however is that if you hit a bump (pothole) under load, the entire rear axle sounds and feels like it is going to be ripped off of the car. Cheap engineering is probably a better description.
I don't know what you're driving your reality, but when I hit a bump under load with my S197 it sure doesn't seem like "the entire rear axle sounds and feels like it is going to be ripped off of the car" In fact, the S197 is the best behaved live axle car I've driven.

Exaggerate much?
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Old May 3, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SMG
One of the things they pointed out repeatedly in that issue is ridiculously high price of the Shelby GT relative to the performance gains over the base GT. Most of the major magazines have touted the base GT as one of the best performance values on the market today, so I don't think most consumers would think less of it because the Shelby finished dead last in that comparison. If anything, Ford having overpriced special edition cars hurts the sales and resale of the special edition cars while simultaneously helping the sales of the base cars. Personally, I'm in the camp that thinks all of these special editions are just getting silly. It's one thing to offer additional trim levels like the GT/CS and Pony Package, but it gets a little ridiculous when you start talking about special editions like the GT500 "red stripe" and "KR". Hell, most people can't even find a regular GT500 white stripe, no stripe, or "PR"(prince of the road) at a dealership for msrp.
Yeah they are getting silly.. Like the Bullitt version. (One of my favorite movies.) Bullitt is the name of the late Steve McQueens character, not a performance model Mustang. The Stang he drove in the movie just happened to be Dark Highland green. Why not talk Ford into just bringing the color back instead paying for it by way of an SE model. It was cool with the 01 models (dark blue? ) and sure there may be a possible 400(?) hp under the hood with superior handling. On top of it's high price, the dealers are going to rock everybodys heads with those high a** premiums. And for what? A model that has no performance history. Those of you who want THAT silly SE, do your thing.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tampa07GTCS
I like the fact that Ford is coming out with SE's.... don't llike the fact that they run a SE for more than a Year...(i.e 2007-2008 GT/CS). And I don't know why most of you are complaining, the more I see SE's come out...the more I see the people on here trying to make thier Stock cars look like an SE. Therefore the more SE's come out the more mods you can buy for your cars! I don't think it will depreciate the value of the Stock or factory SE's... but I can see it hurting the regular Aftermarket SE's like the Stage2's Stage3's etc.
But these owners of the S197 have been doing that; Boss tribute and so on, because the car mimics the 60's cars. And the 87-98 cars (sans the Cobras) didn't need an SE for their phenominal aftermarket
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Old May 4, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Vermillion06
In fact, the S197 is the best behaved live axle car I've driven.
That's probably right however that doesn't change the fact that it's antiquated technology. Ford went with it to keep the vehicle as inexpensive as possible.

By the time the Camero is out [and head-to-head competition for the SN197 steps up], the Mustang will have IRS either stock or as an option. Ford has already talked about it in the recent customer feedback survey.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Just another way Ford cann make $$$$.

But they need to make $$$ so I'm cool with it I suppose.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Vermillion06
As others have pointed out, the number of actual Ford "special editions" isn't any higher than in previous Mustang generations. Most of the "special editions" are made by the AFTERMARKET (Roush, Steeda, Saleen, etc.)


I don't know what you're driving your reality, but when I hit a bump under load with my S197 it sure doesn't seem like "the entire rear axle sounds and feels like it is going to be ripped off of the car" In fact, the S197 is the best behaved live axle car I've driven.

Exaggerate much?
A big pothole in an RX7 R1 was risking a trip to the dentists office. Made the Viper GTS seem like a Cadillac. IRS does not equal great ride, in the large SUV market the Tahoe is about the only one left with a live axle and rides better over bumps then any of the others by a long shot(the pilot has the worst ride). There is a lot more then just the type of suspension that dictates ride quality. Mini Coopers and M3's are not smooth by any means either on bad pavement.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinb120
Mini Coopers and M3's are not smooth by any means either on bad pavement.
No, but if you hit a pothole while in a turn, their rear ends are less likely to become upset.
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