Read below for a more indepth version of the options above (poll options can only be 100 characters).

1. It’s ok to make your car look exactly like another model mustang. This includes the use of emblems/badges/scripts (e.g. “COBRA”, “G.T. 350” or “GT”), scripts (e.g. “Cobra” “Mach 1”, “BOSS” stripes); as long as one doesn't try to pass it off as such when you sell it.

2. It’s only ok to use these emblems, badges, scripts etc from another model if you have the performance of that model (e.g. S197 GT with cobra badges that is as fast as the GT 500)

3. It’s only ok to use historic badges/emblems/scripts of Mustangs that aren’t currently in production or that haven’t been publicly announced (ok to use “G.T. 350” because there isn’t a S197 version of the G.T. 350, but not “GT 500” or “Bullitt”, or “Shelby GT”

4. It’s ok to make your car look like something it isn’t as long as you don’t label it that way (e.g. GT-500 and GT front fascias/fog lights are ok, but no “GT-500” or "G.T. 350" side stripes, or “GT” emblems)

5. It’s ok to use stripes, wheels, and other styling cues from the past (e.g. LeMans stripes, “GT 300” rocker stripes, and center mounted fogs are ok), but don’t use another current model’s fascia (no GT-500 fascias on a GT or V6), grille (no GT fog light grilles on V6s), emblem (no Cobras on GTs or V6s, and no GT emblems on a V6s).

6. It’s not ok to make any of the above modifications


There has been much discussion about cloning, tribute cars, posers, etc. over the years on TMS.

Maybe we need another Mustang Man-Law (I guess Ford liked that last Mustang Man-Law about no sedan or station wagon versions of the mustang)

Vote for what you think should be the TMS Mustang-Man law on modifying a mustang.

This is just for fun and to encourage thoughtful exchange of opinions, so please keep it civil.

 

Someone said that they thought it would be better to create something that was imaginative and different, well....here's what you get!!! This is the ONLY thing i would NEVER clone!!

 

OMG, did Ford go into business with Hoover Vacuums?

 

At least you have to give the guy credit for thinking outside the box. I have to agree though, that car will NEVER be cloned.

 

yea, he was thinking outside the box, and outside of good taste too!!!

 

looks like the creature from the black lagoon!!

 

WTF is that thing??? Poor pony...

 

Changing back to AFBLUE's first post questions, I wonder where I stand with some nice "4.6L Interceptor" emblems I purchased. I think they're pretty cool, the V8 is a 4.6L if I am not mistaken, but that's where my knowledge ends. Plus, the police may not appreciate... hmm

 

The Short Answer is This.

Build The Car of your Dreams!

If you Want to Use Emblems Put a T at The End! If you are concerend about Negative Comments.

Example GT-500T T is For Tribute.

Then You Do not Have to Worry About Any Negative Poser Comments. You Are Covered on all Bases.

That is a Simple WIN-WIN Scenario in My Book.


You Might Add the T option to your poll.


KC

 

Now I like that idea Kevin!

 

That's One!

Thanks!

 

I had thought about this as an option as in "G.T. 350 T" or G.T. 350 TR" for a rocker stripe. I had a post on here about this idea 2 years ago but was unable to find it with the search function.

Also have to give credit to rrobello who had mentioned the "T" for tribute thing before too.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showpo...3&postcount=12

As I mentioned here http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...ada#post802595

Some folks have used the "nada" and "Tribute" words to also indicate that these are not the real thing.

I agree that these types of suffixs/prefixs may be a happy medium where the 2 large camps of thought, identified by those that selected option 1 or 4 in the poll above, could agree.

 

I am worse off having viewed this defacing of an American icon

 

I've got to add my 2 cents. I agree with Kevin. It's your car, mod it the way you want it. I don't get these guys who get all bent out of shape if someone is putting '99 GT emblems on a '96 instead of the original GT/4.6 liter emblems, or running with duals on a V-6. Fine by me.

You could say we're all posers. That would be the negative way of looking at it. All of our cars are changed from stock. Or, you could say that we mod our cars to personalize them. Absolutely nothing wrong with that in my book.

I have the GT 500 rear fascia on my '05, and I intend to mount the front fascia as soon as I can get the money together. It's not intended to fool anybody into thinking I have a Shelby GT 500. In fact, I don't plan on using the snake emblems. I'm happy with the GT on the sides of my car. I just like the look of the GT 500 front fascia.

I had a Cobra front clip (front fascia and hood) on my '96 GT, but it still had GT badging. It wasn't a Cobra, but again, I just liked the way it looked. And it was my car.

 

I can't vote, Mark. You need to add the option "It doesn't matter." Whereas I certainly do think it's dishonest to try to sell a car as something it isn't, and probably illegal as well, it is the place of this forum to decide what is right or "allowed" concerning the Mustang? There is nothing Holy about what Ford produces (not to diminish the Mustang's coolness), and nothing wrong with doing what we want with it. Once we buy the car, it is ours to spruce up, or sadly, butcher as we please. (see previous example) I think you and I agree on what is considered reasonable and what is not, but I don't see the point in this poll. Are you looking for approval for a mod that you are considering? You don't need it. It's your car, and it has to please no one but you. If you want the best resale value, leave it stock. Otherwise, do whatever you want. Can you explain why this subject bothers you so much? I bet most of us here feel nearly the same way about it. (with a few vocal exceptions)

 

Jim, thanks for your thought provoking post.
Based on what you said above, it sounds like you are an option 1 type of guy. I.e. It doesn't matter what someone does to their car as long as they don't try pass it off as such when they try to sell it. Poll option 1 may be poorly worded as is (I tried to explain each option more thorougly in post 1 of this thread)
I totally agree. The poll question says "In your opinion, what should be the rule for modifying mustangs?" Hopefully I didn't give the impression that this thread was meant to determine what is "right" or "allowed". I just was curious how prevalent certain opinions were (see below). Maybe I should have worded the poll question to say "If you were king for a day..."
As I stated in post 1, this is just for fun. There was another poll on here asking opinions on cloning and I wanted to develop a poll that tried to capture the percentage of folks that held certain opinions on this subject (A subject that seems to generate a wide range of opinions and emotions).
I was curious as to whether certain opinions are held by the vast majority or a small but vocal minority.
I don't have the car yet but the exterior mods I'm considering wouldn't even raise an eyebrow with most of this group. And even if it did, tough ****. "It my car and I will do what I want... " FYI: I will probably order an 08 when the order banks open in April 07.

I enjoy discussions on this subject (obviously I started a thread on it) but this subject doesn't bother me. My personal opinion on this whole issue is that I'm probably closer to option 4. However, as I've stated many times before, if someone puts a Cobra or "GT 500", on their GT or V6, I won't come on here and criticize them for it (I'm more apt to defend them when someone else attacks them), but I wouldn't do it to my car. Just my personal choice.

I currently plan to make my future 08 look like a 1966 G.T. 350, but it won't say "G.T. 350" (or even G.T. 350T) anywhere on it. Why? Because it's not a G.T. 350. It's a Ford Mustang GT. I have this view probably because of what I have read and observed over the last 3 years here on TMS.

But this is only my opinion (I have no desire to make it a rule), and as I stated before I believe everyone has the right to make their mustang look any way they want, and I believe others have the right to criticize these modifications.

Personally, I don't like it when folks feel the need to criticize others for being "posers", just like I don't like it when someone burns the US flag, but in both cases I respect their right to do so.

I hope I have effectively answered the comments/questions in your post; and it did start to accomplish one my desires for this thread: Generate a "thoughtful exchange of opinions"

 

I personally think it's fine to do whatever you want with your own vehicle. I may not understand why someone would want to, or laugh at a 3 teired aluminum wing or whatever goofyness someone else thinks is cool but it's not my car, why should I care.

I think the vast majority of people are clueless to the differances between a gt, v6 and even a shelby gt500. I've had people ask me if my car was a GT, when I answer yes they then follow up with, "does it have the V8?"

I wouldn't mock my car up to look like a shelby or if I had a V6, I wouldn't badge it up as a GT. But thats just me.

What does bother me is when I hear about how slow the Mustang GT's are when they are basing it on the (other wise bone stock) mocked up V6 they either raced on the freeway or saw at the strip. You'd think even the F-body guys could tell the differance in engine sound alone, but appearantly many cannot.

 

Thanks for the clarification, Mark. Like I said, I think we're pretty close on this one. You don't have an 05+ yet? Not that there is anything wrong with your '96, but you're gonna love an '08 when you get one! This is the first car I've had feelings for since I sold my '66 vert back in '84. It's an extension of my personality, which is why I like to mod it to my own tastes. I do have GT300 on the rockers, a designation which never existed and is actually rather appropriate. However, I also have snakes on the fenders. I didn't like the GT and GT300 both on the sides. I could have gone with ponies, but thumbed my nose to the purists and added the snakes. No where does the car say "Shelby", though. I'm also in the "I wouldn't do it, but wouldn't blame someone else if they did" camp. At car shows I do get lots of less knowledgeable people ooh and aah over my "Shelby", but I always point out that "they're just stick-ons", and "it's just a GT". Most people understand and say they like it anyway. A few have teased me about the snakes, but mostly in fun. It hasn't been a problem, and no one has openly criticized me for it. Wow. Long post just to say I agree with you, huh?

Oh, I forgot. I voted for the first option.

 

I have to say I have to agree to the statement of, your car do as you please. Isn't that what america is all about. To be able to have your own thoughts and dreams. I say if you want to do it, do it and don't worry about what others think. It's just like this thread, everyone has there own opinion. It's the American way!

 

Anybody Remember Rick Nelsons Song Garden Party?

{You Can't Please Everyone So ya Got to Please Yourself!}


KC