Those are my FOG LIGHTS, not my HIGH BEAMS
Wow, how difficult is it to do that kind of set up?
The hard part is switching the fogs for the Hella 500 lights (if you go with the PIAA lights there is a kit).
That involves taking apart the front end of the car (bumper and grill).
The rest of it was just switching the wires on the headlight connector.
That involves taking apart the front end of the car (bumper and grill).
The rest of it was just switching the wires on the headlight connector.
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MonterayDave, it looks like your Stang has John lennon sunglasses on. Pretty cool. I like it.
If they were meant to be driving lights, they wouldn't call them foglights. On clear days, I'll flash foglights in a heartbeat as a courtesy to let the driver know they may have accidentally turned them on.
If they were meant to be driving lights, they wouldn't call them foglights. On clear days, I'll flash foglights in a heartbeat as a courtesy to let the driver know they may have accidentally turned them on.
MonterayDave, it looks like your Stang has John lennon sunglasses on. Pretty cool. I like it.
If they were meant to be driving lights, they wouldn't call them foglights. On clear days, I'll flash foglights in a heartbeat as a courtesy to let the driver know they may have accidentally turned them on.
If they were meant to be driving lights, they wouldn't call them foglights. On clear days, I'll flash foglights in a heartbeat as a courtesy to let the driver know they may have accidentally turned them on.
Other vehicles...
Most either leave them on with the headlights because they want to or are clueless.
To most people flashing, means either cops are around or high beams are coming at them.
I admire courtesy but...
I wouldn't confuse them by flashing fogs.
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I vote rude, when it comes to choice of lights to run. They're not clueless. They believe that because it's not their brights, that it's ok to shine more light in oncoming motorists eyes. But it's just my opinion, I'm sure they're cool in every other way. It's just a pet peeve of mine when people do that. Just like it being my pet peeve is probably a pet peeve to them.
I usually open my windows and wave to other Mustangs. Great-looking cars.
I usually open my windows and wave to other Mustangs. Great-looking cars.
I get flashed all the time, at least twice a night coming home from work. A year into owning my Mustang, I brought it in to the dealership for a dead battery. I asked them to look at the fog light level while I was in. They said there was now way to adjust them. Good to know the folks in this blog are smarter than the dealership. Thanks.
I get flashed all the time, at least twice a night coming home from work. A year into owning my Mustang, I brought it in to the dealership for a dead battery. I asked them to look at the fog light level while I was in. They said there was now way to adjust them. Good to know the folks in this blog are smarter than the dealership. Thanks.
You can adjust them yourself, as it would take all of 10 minutes tops. I vote rude, when it comes to choice of lights to run. They're not clueless. They believe that because it's not their brights, that it's ok to shine more light in oncoming motorists eyes. But it's just my opinion, I'm sure they're cool in every other way. It's just a pet peeve of mine when people do that. Just like it being my pet peeve is probably a pet peeve to them.
I usually open my windows and wave to other Mustangs. Great-looking cars.
I usually open my windows and wave to other Mustangs. Great-looking cars.
It is not a pet peeve, it is basic safety and common courtesy
You are correct, if your lights are not illegally too bright, or miss-adjusted, they will not hurt the eyes of oncoming drivers.
Yet your assumption about number of lights is wrong!
In my daily driver, I sit way up high in a F-450 4X4, if your lights are too bright, it is obvious. When 50 or 100 or even 100's of cars go by and their lights are NOT too bright, then along comes you with your too bright lights, IT IS REAL EASY TO TELL YOUR LIGHTS ARE TOO BRIGHT!!!
I don't give a crap if you have one, two or ten lights on the front of your vehicle, if they are properly adjusted and not too bright (high beams, miss-adjusted or too bright fog/driving lights) most people won't have a problem with it, and WILL NOT FLASH you. If it doesn't blind me it isn't a problem, PERIOD.
I often drive with my properly adjusted "fog" lights on, I do not get flashed by oncoming drivers.
If your lights are too bright due to shear ignorance, simply inattention, or because they are miss-adjusted, I don't care why, I will flood you with my bright lights! Eventually when every second driver is flashing you for blinding them, you will have enough and get the picture and yes even correct your too bright lights.
I have had vehicles with miss-adjusted lights, I've gotten flashed by multiple drivers. I eventually fixed my lights.
If your lights are directed into the oncoming drivers eyes, they are too high to work properly for you anyway. Just adjust your lights down and/or to the right, and quit being a Butthole.
In some states your driving/fog/axillary lights must be dimmed for oncoming drivers just like your high beams, it is the law.
In other states flashing drivers with too bright lights is the law!!
http://www.floridatrafficacademy.com...ok_chap3.shtml
# Don't use high-beam headlights within 500 feet of oncoming vehicles.
# If you are behind other vehicles, use low beams when you are within 300 feet of the vehicle ahead.
# If a vehicle comes toward you with high beams, flash your lights to high beam and back to low beam once.
As you age your eyesight declines, and bright lights have a much more drastic negative effect on older eyes than it does on the younger eyes. If you live long enough your eye sight will decline too.
Not only are your TOO BRIGHT LIGHTS rude and uncomfortable to oncoming drivers, they are also a true safety issue.
If it has bothered you enough to ***** about it on a public internet forum, you are well on your way to getting the message. If you are regularly getting flashed by oncoming drivers YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, FIX IT!
Yet your assumption about number of lights is wrong!
In my daily driver, I sit way up high in a F-450 4X4, if your lights are too bright, it is obvious. When 50 or 100 or even 100's of cars go by and their lights are NOT too bright, then along comes you with your too bright lights, IT IS REAL EASY TO TELL YOUR LIGHTS ARE TOO BRIGHT!!!
I don't give a crap if you have one, two or ten lights on the front of your vehicle, if they are properly adjusted and not too bright (high beams, miss-adjusted or too bright fog/driving lights) most people won't have a problem with it, and WILL NOT FLASH you. If it doesn't blind me it isn't a problem, PERIOD.
I often drive with my properly adjusted "fog" lights on, I do not get flashed by oncoming drivers.
If your lights are too bright due to shear ignorance, simply inattention, or because they are miss-adjusted, I don't care why, I will flood you with my bright lights! Eventually when every second driver is flashing you for blinding them, you will have enough and get the picture and yes even correct your too bright lights.
I have had vehicles with miss-adjusted lights, I've gotten flashed by multiple drivers. I eventually fixed my lights.
If your lights are directed into the oncoming drivers eyes, they are too high to work properly for you anyway. Just adjust your lights down and/or to the right, and quit being a Butthole.

In some states your driving/fog/axillary lights must be dimmed for oncoming drivers just like your high beams, it is the law.
In other states flashing drivers with too bright lights is the law!!
http://www.floridatrafficacademy.com...ok_chap3.shtml
# Don't use high-beam headlights within 500 feet of oncoming vehicles.
# If you are behind other vehicles, use low beams when you are within 300 feet of the vehicle ahead.
# If a vehicle comes toward you with high beams, flash your lights to high beam and back to low beam once.
As you age your eyesight declines, and bright lights have a much more drastic negative effect on older eyes than it does on the younger eyes. If you live long enough your eye sight will decline too.
Not only are your TOO BRIGHT LIGHTS rude and uncomfortable to oncoming drivers, they are also a true safety issue.

If it has bothered you enough to ***** about it on a public internet forum, you are well on your way to getting the message. If you are regularly getting flashed by oncoming drivers YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, FIX IT!
Your pet peeve would not exist if the lights were properly aimed where they belong . It wouldn't matter if there were 8 lights coming at you ! It's the focal point of the light beam that hurts the eyes not the amount of lights . But people do think that when they see 4 lights on a car that they are being abused somehow by all 4 being on at the same time ! And to them it doesn't matter if they are aimed right or not . HEADLIGHT ENVY !! 

Some local ordinances like the bigger cities require at least 2 degrees right and 2 degrees down to help avoid this issue. My GT/CS has HID and so far I haven't been flashed for being too bright by any on-coming cars yet. I've looked for adjusters on the headlamps but was unable to locate any. Do the new (05-09) Mustangs have headlamp adjusters? I can't see how one could do away with them.
There is no reason for them to be flashing their lights at you. Some drivers just think they are the self appointed "Road Police" and have a problem sharing the road with others. They need to keep their eyes on the road ahead of them and quit worrying about what everyone else is doing. 

When I added fogs and the GT headlight switch to my V6 it ended up being wired so that I could have the fogs AND the brights on together. I always have my fogs on at night so, when I get flashed (which has been very seldom over the past 4 years I've had the car) I turn on the brights and they get both the fogs and the brights!
Take that you self-important busy bodies!! LOL!
MonterayDave, it looks like your Stang has John lennon sunglasses on. Pretty cool. I like it.
If they were meant to be driving lights, they wouldn't call them foglights. On clear days, I'll flash foglights in a heartbeat as a courtesy to let the driver know they may have accidentally turned them on.
If they were meant to be driving lights, they wouldn't call them foglights. On clear days, I'll flash foglights in a heartbeat as a courtesy to let the driver know they may have accidentally turned them on.
Thanks Beast ... I hadn't thought of the Lennon-look. But, coincidentally that look is the same as my reading glasses
I have noticed this recently as well....my buddy has an '07 V6 with the Pony Package, and when we go out he typically is incapacitated by the time we head back, and I have to drive his stang back. I can't believe how mad people get if I drive with the fog lights on....I had a guy in a BMW pull next to me cursing and giving me an assortment of hand gestures....and I didnt even have the high beams on...



The ones I saw were aimed low and they still about blinded me !! 