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Here're some thoughts on what Ford should come out with regarding both regular and special models. Models such as the V6, V6 Pony, GT, GTS & Cobra should be regular models (although the GTS is still iffy, and even the Cobra as well according to some ;-)). The Mach & Boss models would be special edition models, made for 1 or 2 years at a time (do I even need to say that there will be no special editions made in 2005? I hope not...), and then rotated. For example, a Boss 302 coming into play in mid-2006, while concluding around mid-2007 (where the next special edition would come in) (scroll down to the bottom). Other than stripes, I haven't figured out what to do with any Shelby Models as the Boss & Cobra models pretty much cover all the bases.

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Mustang V6
202 HP / 235 lb. ft 4.0L 2V, SOHC V6 engine
P215/65R16 tires
Coupe Base MSRP $18,950

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Mustang Pony V6
Adds or replaces on Mustang V6:
3.5L DOHC Duratec35 V6, with VCT 10.5:1 CR, 91 octane fuel
270 HP @ 6250 RPM / 260 lb. ft @ 4800 RPM
Independent rear suspension
3.73 rear axle ratio
8.8" Limited slip differential
Dual exhaust with down turned tips
P235/55R17 tires
Unique wheels
12.4"F / 11.8"R vented brake rotors
Unique rear spoiler
Unique Pony badging
Coupe Base MSRP $22,550

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Mustang GT
4.6L SOHC, 3V, V8 engine, 87 Octane Fuel
300 HP @ 6000 RPM / 315 lb. ft @ 4500 RPM
3 link live rear axle.
3.27:1 8.8" Limited Slip axle*
*3.55:1 optional axle ratio
Dual Exhaust
GT badging
Rear Wing*
*Rear Wing Delete Option
12.4"F / 11.8"R Vented brake rotors
Coupe Base MSRP $24,950

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Mustang GTS
Adds or replaces on Mustang GT
Independent Rear Suspension
Unique Suspension Tuning to maximize road handling
3.55 rear axle ratio
Limited Slip rear end
Unique Fog lamps mounted in bumper
Includes Deluxe Trim and Leather Seats
Rear Spoiler (duck-tail not wing)
GTS Badging
6 Speed MTX optional
Coupe Base MSRP $26,950

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Mustang Mach 1
Adds or replaces on Mustang GT
3 link live rear axle.
3.55 rear axle ratio*
*3.73 optional axle ratio
Limited Slip rear end
5.4L SOHC 3 valve, V8 engine, 9.8:1 compression ratio, 87 Octane fuel
350 HP @ 5800 RPM / 365 lb. ft @ 4000 RPM
Specially tuned 2.5" diameter exhaust system
Unique front spoiler
Unique rear wing
Unique Mach 1 graphics
Includes Deluxe Trim and leather seats
Shaker Hood Scoop
Performance Tuned Suspension
Magnum 500 style Heritage Wheels
Coupe Base MSRP $28,950

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Mustang Boss 302
Adds or replaces on Mustang GT
Independent Rear Suspension
3.73 rear axle ratio*
4:10 optional axle ratio.
Limited Slip rear end
302 CID DOHC, 4 V, V8 engine with 10.0:1 CR, 91 Octane fuel
400 HP @ 6800 RPM / 370 lb. ft @ 4800 RPM
3.70" Bore x 3.55" stroke
High Performance 2.5" dia. X pipe exhaust system
Oil Cooler
Unique front spoiler
Unique rear wing
Unique Boss 302 graphics
Shaker Hood Scoop
Performance Tuned Suspension, lowered by 1 inch & tuned for road handling.
P255/45R18 tires with Heritage Wheels
6 Speed MTX standard
13.5"R / 12.5"R Dual Piston brake rotors
Coupe Base MSRP $33,550

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Mustang Boss 351
Adds or replaces on Mustang GT
Independent Rear Suspension
*Optional 31 spline live rear axle with locking differential
3.55 rear axle ratio
Limited Slip rear end
351 CID, SOHC 3 valve V10 engine with 10.0:1 compression ratio (91 Octane fuel)
400 HP @ 5800 RPM / 430 lb. ft @ 4000 RPM
Performance tuned 2.75" diameter exhaust system and mufflers
3.55" bore x 3.54" stroke
Oil Cooler
Unique front spoiler
Unique rear wing
Unique Boss 351 graphics
Unique Hood Scoop
Performance Tuned Suspension
P255/45R18 tires with Heritage Wheels
Coupe Base MSRP $34,550

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Mustang Boss 429
Adds or replaces on Mustang GT
High Performance 31 spline live rear axle.
3.23 rear axle ratio
Locking differential
429 CID, SOHC 3 valve V10 engine with 10.0:1 compression ratio (91 Octane fuel)
3.62" bore x 4.16" stroke
500 HP @ 5500 RPM / 500 lb. ft @ 3800 RPM
Special 3.0" diameter exhaust system and mufflers
Oil Cooler
6 Speed MTX only
Unique front spoiler
Unique rear wing
Unique grille w/o fog lamps
Unique Boss 429 graphics
Unique Hood Scoop
Drag Tuned Suspension
P255/45R18 tires with Heritage Wheels
Coupe Base MSRP $37,950

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SVT Cobra
Adds or replaces on Mustang GT
Independent Rear Suspension
3,73 rear axle ratio
Limited Slip rear end
5.4L SOHC, 3 V, V8 engine, Supercharged with 8.7:1 CR, 91 Octane fuel
470 HP @ 6500 RPM / 470 lb. ft @ 4500 RPM
3.55" Bore x 4.16" stroke
Unique Cobra Exhaust system
Unique front spoiler
Unique rear wing
Unique Cobra front and rear facias
Dual ram air hood scoops
Performance Tuned Suspension
P275/40ZR18 tires
Cobra 10" wide wheels
6 Speed MTX standard
13.5"R / 12.5"R Dual Piston brake rotors
Coupe Base MSRP $35,950

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Suspected Rotation Pattern

2006 Boss 302

2007 Boss 302, Mach 1

2008 Mach 1, Boss 429

2009 Boss 429, Boss 351

2010 Boss 351, Shelby GT-350

Stangfriik

That's quite a lineup

1 COBRA

S O L D ! ! !

bullittman68

There's no way a 429 is going for anywhere in the 30k's.

steal101

Great!! But the Boss cars should have bigger tires than 255's.

jsaylor

I don't get he whole V-10 thing. If people are just stuck on n/a fine by me, but a supercharged or twin-turbo 5.4L would be cheaper to make and without doubt more powerful given the same development costs. And, you simply cannot get the same kind of torque out of a n/a motor that you can out of a blwn one from a production standpoint. Blown small-blocks are the new big-blocks.

AnotherMustangMan

That GTS sounds cool, but they should strip the luxuries (keep the IRS) and sell it for less than the GT, like the SN95 GTS


Why doesnt the "drag tuned" BOSS 429 have a 4.10 or at least 3.73 rear axle?

BlackRiderX

No way on a 429ci job from Ford on any low production car, at least at affordable prices. They wouldn't even give the Ford Gt an engine that size. The Z06 is going to get a 427 and look how much they are going to want for it. 75K!

Johny5ltr

Hey honey......i just sold the house !!!!!!!!!!

Rampant

Would be nice, but your prices sound waaaaay low for the equipment involved. The most obvious being a 7.0L V-10 for $38k? If only.....

I really like the idea of two similarly prices GT level models -- one with the SRA and one IRS though. Call it a Boss 281 and I am there. Then bring out the Boss 329 with the 5.4 in it. For cost reasons, I think all Mustang motors will be either 4.6 or 5.4 for now. But that is fine with me.

bob

I dont see a problem producing a relatively cheap 429 cid V10. Especially in 3v SOHC format.

Look at the Z06 vette, 6 piston calipers, aluminum frame, titanium intake valves and connecting rods. All big ticket items that cost big bucks.

A 7 lirer V10 with a sensible redline using a forged crank and rods with steel valves will be far cheaper. I bet for the cost of 1 of the Z06 valves you could put three hollow stainless steel valves in a 3v head.

The exotic materials used in the LS7 are there becuase they are using a big inch stroker and probably a pretty wild cam for regular no fail 100k mile engine duty.

swingle007

Sounds great but you aren't ever going to see 470-500 hp S.E. Mustangs for 35-40k...be a nice dream though....

friedmaster

There is also no way that you will see more than 2 SEs per year. And they wont change them every year.

TURBO 05

true that since the new z06 is a 427 c.i. and it will be $50k

BlackRiderX

true that since the new z06 is a 427 c.i. and it will be $50k [/b][/quote]
Try 65-75K for the new Z.

bob

Try 65-75K for the new Z. [/b][/quote]
Still a smok'n deal considering the level of performance your getting. Car is butt ugly but goes like stink.

I could see a V10 car in the 30's, but a coupla thngs would have to happen like 3v V10s, not that I keep up with the V10 engines, but I think they are still 2v engines? Hardest part would be the electronics and crash certification I think.

Then you gotta have the parts laying around to suport it like a good tranny and rear end, which I guess they would have covered with the M6 from the cobra and the 8.8 is probably plenty stout with 31 spline axles as long as you dont put on full slicks soaked in track bite on a strip laid down with super glue.

Although you ultimately have Ford setting the price at whatever they think the car would fetch and the inevitable dealer market adjustment charges

Which I'm sure a BOSS 429 would command.

GAWD I wish I could fall into 1.21 gigawatts of cash. Would be an interesting tuner car, but on that scale I'm sure it would add some BIG cost.

I dont see Ford casting aluminum tall deck V10 blocks in the future although I can see the 3v stuff happening.

I bet a N/A 3v V10 would still be lighter than the S/C 4v 4.6 used in the cobras. So handling with a V10 wouldn't be a major factor. Engine would be simple too. No need for intake runner controls or variable cam timing, just the brute force provided by some well tuned 429 cubic inches. Although this variable cam timing would be of some benefit, just not nessecary. In a basic GT style tune you'd be looking at 460 hp and Muhahahahahahaha!!!! 490 ft/lbs of torque.

They could have a 5th wheel option instead of a trunk for this puppy, err pony.

Okay back to reality....