Starting to Wonder...Maybe an 06?
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Originally posted by woody1@December 9, 2004, 12:11 AM
However (not a flame but an observation), a quandry exists with the site in there is no structure to the posts broken out under 2005 Mustang heading (i.e. Engine,/Drive Train. Interior. Exterior, Electroncs, Tires/Wheels, Exhaust, Speed Mods, Susepnsion, Aftermarket, etc) to catagory the posts Often people posts new threads and with similiar comments. Perceptions and questions get stated/asked over and over again often simply becasue some people don't search before they ask.
However (not a flame but an observation), a quandry exists with the site in there is no structure to the posts broken out under 2005 Mustang heading (i.e. Engine,/Drive Train. Interior. Exterior, Electroncs, Tires/Wheels, Exhaust, Speed Mods, Susepnsion, Aftermarket, etc) to catagory the posts Often people posts new threads and with similiar comments. Perceptions and questions get stated/asked over and over again often simply becasue some people don't search before they ask.
Apart from that I still love being here
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Originally posted by NewPony05@December 8, 2004, 7:17 PM
I don't think there is any debating whether or not a bullit or mach 1 is soon to be released, we already know the SVT is a year and a half away. Some of us just want the GT for the simple pleasure of having it to drive and fix up along the way. I'd much rather plunk my cash into fixing up a base model engine then one that's already done up by someone else. If I wanted that, I could have just bought a Lancer Evo or a Subby WRX STI. Everyone gets their own pleasures out of it, if you want to wait for a special edition, then wait... if not, then order. It seems like over the last couple months there has been a lot of these postings. Maybe I'm just being crazy, heck I dunno. Anyhow, if ya got em... enjoy em. I sure won't be ashamed to own an 05 when the SVT comes out in a couple years, or 4, 5, 6 years down the road. Because I bought what I wanted.
I'm waiting. I kind of think of it like this- would I rather have a '99, the first year the last body style was made, and be the first to have one, or would I rather have my 2003 with all of the improvements that were made since '99.
It's tough to see all these new Mustangs running around, but they will just get better with time. I'd be really upset if I plunked down the $$$ for one only to find out a new Mach 1 or Bullitt was about to be released.
It's tough to see all these new Mustangs running around, but they will just get better with time. I'd be really upset if I plunked down the $$$ for one only to find out a new Mach 1 or Bullitt was about to be released.
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The funny thing is I have heard horror stories on the site about noises & flaws in wheel wells - imperfection in factory paint jobs & this ne "my color" lawsuit problem is driving some mustang loyalists crazy. I have this to say about my personal experience... "no problems" she runs like a champ. I've been through a '98 stang & also an '02 -- both were wonderful cars but I wouldn't take them back over my '05. What are the biggest changes expected for th '06 ??? New colors.. bigger rims... what else??? oohh .. & the hopes that Ford can resolve supply shortages. that's about it other than that - everyone is hoping that all the little kinks will be fixed -- in time most of them will. But you know ... Praise the guy who invented "the warranty" -- The Cobra & the Mach 1 are destined to come -- so is the Vert. Maybe even a Bullitt... but no gurantees there. If this is what you really want... then you should really wait. But if you're looking at the '05 thinking you want one but the horror stories are keeping you from pulling the trigger. You should just pull the trigger IMO. Not everyone who's purchased this car is having problems.
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Originally posted by Boomer@December 8, 2004, 8:52 PM
Nowadays...
You can have more problems with later years than the first years, as they may try to cut corners or change something...
its never ending.
its like asking someone when the best time to buy a computer is...
the answer is always 'now'
You'll never win.
Nowadays...
You can have more problems with later years than the first years, as they may try to cut corners or change something...
its never ending.
its like asking someone when the best time to buy a computer is...
the answer is always 'now'
You'll never win.
The new 03 Ford PowerStroke Diesel engine had problems, they reflashed it numerous times. We bought the 04 model, but guess what, it has the 03 engine (with the flashes).
The later 04 F250 truck was missing things that existed on the 03, because they "cut costs"!! Things like the insulation in the hood, the light in the glovebox, I know there were other things. So if you wait, you could be paying the same amount (or more) and get LESS!
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I can't help it .. you guys are talking like this car is riddled with problems. I can
tell you that now that I have 1500 miles on this beast it is just about perfect.
'0' Problems. The gear / transmission noises are inherent to this drivetrain
and not a defect. Just jump in drive an '04 GT or Cobra .. the same noises are there .. more so I think (having owned both) .. it's what helps give this car it's character. If you are looking for Honda refinement it will never be a part of this
car no matter how long you wait. Now I do know some people have will encounter
legitimate problems, as with any car. But I can tell you this car looks and drives
like a quality piece .. it's baked in ... Just my .02
tell you that now that I have 1500 miles on this beast it is just about perfect.
'0' Problems. The gear / transmission noises are inherent to this drivetrain
and not a defect. Just jump in drive an '04 GT or Cobra .. the same noises are there .. more so I think (having owned both) .. it's what helps give this car it's character. If you are looking for Honda refinement it will never be a part of this
car no matter how long you wait. Now I do know some people have will encounter
legitimate problems, as with any car. But I can tell you this car looks and drives
like a quality piece .. it's baked in ... Just my .02
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Originally posted by porkster@December 9, 2004, 5:43 AM
The later 04 F250 truck was missing things that existed on the 03, because they "cut costs"!! Things like the insulation in the hood, the light in the glovebox, I know there were other things. So if you wait, you could be paying the same amount (or more) and get LESS!
The later 04 F250 truck was missing things that existed on the 03, because they "cut costs"!! Things like the insulation in the hood, the light in the glovebox, I know there were other things. So if you wait, you could be paying the same amount (or more) and get LESS!
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The only issue I have with my car is the squeaky brakes, which should be resolved as soon as they can get the new pads in. I love this car and don't regret the purchase one bit. People also need to realize that many people who have problems come to boards like this looking to see if others have had problems. In other words, message boards are probably not a representative sample of owners. Also, people are more apt to post their problems than to simply post 'I love this car!'.
Jason
Jason
After all these years,
My C/T still sucks!
My C/T still sucks!
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Originally posted by PonyLover@December 8, 2004, 8:26 PM
I am with the first poster.
My heart wants one NOW!!
My mind and pocket book says wait.
I am with the first poster.
My heart wants one NOW!!
My mind and pocket book says wait.
speaking of 06=
Will the verts be built right out of the gate on 06 job 1 or will they wait till job 2 or 3 again?
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Originally posted by Robert+December 8, 2004, 11:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Robert @ December 8, 2004, 11:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-lodom@December 8, 2004, 8:48 PM
It is definately tempting to wait. The adage, not to buy a car in its first year, is starting to affect my desire to get an 05. I've been keeping up with the issues, and I may decide to not take delivery of the 05 I have on order. I had a significant number of problems out of my 99, even though it wasn't a complete redesign from the previous models. I understand there is no perfect car, but my current Honda is 98% problem free and has only been to the dealer once in almost 3 years. Yes it's a boring car, but I can't afford the inconvenience of bringing a car in for service to correct problems since it would be my daily driver. I really want an 05, but I don't know if it is the wisest decision right now.
It is definately tempting to wait. The adage, not to buy a car in its first year, is starting to affect my desire to get an 05. I've been keeping up with the issues, and I may decide to not take delivery of the 05 I have on order. I had a significant number of problems out of my 99, even though it wasn't a complete redesign from the previous models. I understand there is no perfect car, but my current Honda is 98% problem free and has only been to the dealer once in almost 3 years. Yes it's a boring car, but I can't afford the inconvenience of bringing a car in for service to correct problems since it would be my daily driver. I really want an 05, but I don't know if it is the wisest decision right now.
[/b][/quote]May I ask why you found my previous comments werd? I've been waiting for the 2005 Mustang ever since I found out about the redesign and really like the car, but I made over 25 trips to the dealer to have numerous problems resolved with my 99 GT. I'm a hesisitant to take that kind of a risk right now, and I like to spend my time in other places besides the dealer's service department.
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I am buying (my first) Ford and first Mustang NOW and if I like it then in 2 or 3 years I will buy what ever the most awesome Mustang is at the time or I might decide to return to my import roots and just buy the hottest performance sedan from Lexus, Honda etc that is available.
I am a long time Honda and Toyota buyer (18 years of buying products from these two companies). And have built mutliple high power "Street" cars.
But the 2005 has given me the Stang fever, hopefully this car will not disappoint me. I have ordered a V6 for several reasons after looking at the specs of both motors and ease of maint, upgrades etc. The 246ci, 4 Liter V6 with a cast iron block WITHOUT the coil on plug nonsense just seems to scream MODS to me. Where the V8 seems to want more electrical finessing to get extra performance out of it. SCT tuner, Eproms, fuel management etc.
So I am going to buy right now and discover all the little tweaks on the platform and then when they release a really sweet svt unit then I might jump on that and just carry over all of the hop up parts (or most of them) that I can to the new car, billet trailing arms, intake kit, chrome goodies, shift linkage etc.
I am a long time Honda and Toyota buyer (18 years of buying products from these two companies). And have built mutliple high power "Street" cars.
But the 2005 has given me the Stang fever, hopefully this car will not disappoint me. I have ordered a V6 for several reasons after looking at the specs of both motors and ease of maint, upgrades etc. The 246ci, 4 Liter V6 with a cast iron block WITHOUT the coil on plug nonsense just seems to scream MODS to me. Where the V8 seems to want more electrical finessing to get extra performance out of it. SCT tuner, Eproms, fuel management etc.
So I am going to buy right now and discover all the little tweaks on the platform and then when they release a really sweet svt unit then I might jump on that and just carry over all of the hop up parts (or most of them) that I can to the new car, billet trailing arms, intake kit, chrome goodies, shift linkage etc.
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Most of the problems with '05s posted on this site are about minor things, like the stereo, not major problems.
Besides, think about it this way... there were about ~12,000 new Mustangs sold in November, right? Let's say about 50 people complain about a problem on this site, which may seem like a lot. But in reality, that's only about .42% of the '05s sold
People are really blowing things out of proportion
Besides, think about it this way... there were about ~12,000 new Mustangs sold in November, right? Let's say about 50 people complain about a problem on this site, which may seem like a lot. But in reality, that's only about .42% of the '05s sold
People are really blowing things out of proportion
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Originally posted by jay_wx@December 8, 2004, 5:38 PM
I'm waiting. I kind of think of it like this- would I rather have a '99, the first year the last body style was made, and be the first to have one, or would I rather have my 2003 with all of the improvements that were made since '99.
It's tough to see all these new Mustangs running around, but they will just get better with time. I'd be really upset if I plunked down the $$$ for one only to find out a new Mach 1 or Bullitt was about to be released.
Plus I still have my '03 to enjoy until I'm ready to purchase a stable mate for it :-).
I'm waiting. I kind of think of it like this- would I rather have a '99, the first year the last body style was made, and be the first to have one, or would I rather have my 2003 with all of the improvements that were made since '99.
It's tough to see all these new Mustangs running around, but they will just get better with time. I'd be really upset if I plunked down the $$$ for one only to find out a new Mach 1 or Bullitt was about to be released.
Plus I still have my '03 to enjoy until I'm ready to purchase a stable mate for it :-).
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Originally posted by thezeppelin8@December 9, 2004, 2:29 AM
wait a couple of years so ford can fix all of the kinks, and rumor has it that the hp will rise in two years
wait a couple of years so ford can fix all of the kinks, and rumor has it that the hp will rise in two years
I say if you can wait then wait. After owning a GT for a few years I think I want to go to the next level now 
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Originally posted by Radman@December 9, 2004, 9:19 AM
People also need to realize that many people who have problems come to boards like this looking to see if others have had problems. In other words, message boards are probably not a representative sample of owners. Also, people are more apt to post their problems than to simply post 'I love this car!'.
Jason
People also need to realize that many people who have problems come to boards like this looking to see if others have had problems. In other words, message boards are probably not a representative sample of owners. Also, people are more apt to post their problems than to simply post 'I love this car!'.
Jason
Umm not on this forum
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Originally posted by t69r00p69+December 9, 2004, 12:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (t69r00p69 @ December 9, 2004, 12:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Radman@December 9, 2004, 9:19 AM
People also need to realize that many people who have problems come to boards like this looking to see if others have had problems. In other words, message boards are probably not a representative sample of owners. Also, people are more apt to post their problems than to simply post 'I love this car!'.
Jason
People also need to realize that many people who have problems come to boards like this looking to see if others have had problems. In other words, message boards are probably not a representative sample of owners. Also, people are more apt to post their problems than to simply post 'I love this car!'.
Jason
Umm not on this forum [/b][/quote]
Not this forum what? People don't come here to look for others that have had problems? People on this forum are more likely to say I love it rather than their problems? Need to narrow down the quote to the part you don't agree with. Unless you don't agree with any of it.
Jason
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I am waiting! I live in Ohio, and it is going to start to snow soon. But, I wouldn't blame anybody for buying that car now. Its very nice!!
I'll be jealous when Spring & Summer rolls around. I'll be driving my rusty 1987 GT-LOL.
I got rid of my 2001 GT for the soul purpose of getting a 2005. But, I will tough it out till 2006.
Reasons to wait - Quality, New 18 inch Wheels, S.E.?, Cobra? Save more $$$ for down payment.
I'll be jealous when Spring & Summer rolls around. I'll be driving my rusty 1987 GT-LOL.
I got rid of my 2001 GT for the soul purpose of getting a 2005. But, I will tough it out till 2006.
Reasons to wait - Quality, New 18 inch Wheels, S.E.?, Cobra? Save more $$$ for down payment.
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Originally posted by ace0215+December 9, 2004, 11:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ace0215 @ December 9, 2004, 11:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-jay_wx@December 8, 2004, 5:38 PM
I'm waiting. I kind of think of it like this- would I rather have a '99, the first year the last body style was made, and be the first to have one, or would I rather have my 2003 with all of the improvements that were made since '99.
It's tough to see all these new Mustangs running around, but they will just get better with time. I'd be really upset if I plunked down the $$$ for one only to find out a new Mach 1 or Bullitt was about to be released.
Plus I still have my '03 to enjoy until I'm ready to purchase a stable mate for it :-).
I'm waiting. I kind of think of it like this- would I rather have a '99, the first year the last body style was made, and be the first to have one, or would I rather have my 2003 with all of the improvements that were made since '99.
It's tough to see all these new Mustangs running around, but they will just get better with time. I'd be really upset if I plunked down the $$$ for one only to find out a new Mach 1 or Bullitt was about to be released.
Plus I still have my '03 to enjoy until I'm ready to purchase a stable mate for it :-).
I'm not waiting for the latest and greatest, just wanting to see what the new Mach, Bullitt or other SE Mustang might show up in the next year or so. It's just like computers - you can't wait for the latest and greatest all the time or you will never have one. In my situation, I just don't want to financially lock myself into a GT until I'm sure that's what I really want. With SE models presumably on their way at some point for *me* the best thing to do is wait.
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The car will always get more refined. You can play the waiting game but where does it end? Will the 2007 be better? Will you want a 07 cobra? Will they give the 3 valve 4.6 a boost in horsepower a couple years into it like they did witht he 2 and 4 valve models?
There will always be a better and more refined model down the road. My advice is that if you see something you like, go for it, who knows if tomorrow will come.
There will always be a better and more refined model down the road. My advice is that if you see something you like, go for it, who knows if tomorrow will come.