Slapstick Automatic Transmissions
#2
You got me. In the Lincoln LS the Sport Models have what Ford calls SST. And it has the "slapstick" shifter. Since the 05 Mustang has the same 5R55S trannie one woudl think that's it's a natural to put SST on the new Mustang too.
#3
I remember the rumors way back that the next SVT will have paddle shifters. They have the conversion already developed(but not sold publicly) and another version of the same tranny as the cobra in the Austin Martin. :scratch:
#5
Manual controls for what is basically a standard automatic ought to be fairly easy and cheap to implement, which is why you see them so often now. What with ATX control being essentially 100% electronic, plugging in some switches is readily doable.
As for various versions of electronically controlled and automatically clutched/shifted "manual" type trannies, well, that's a different matter altogether requiring much more extensive add on electronics, selenoids, servos, etc., and would likely be a several $K addition.
An interesting new box is Audi's DSG (Direct Shift Gearbox), which has remarkably quick shifts, on the order of less than .1 seconds vs. nearly .5 seconds for a regular manual. In just two shifts for the quarter mile and you're looking at around .5 seconds saved overall ... potentially!
As for various versions of electronically controlled and automatically clutched/shifted "manual" type trannies, well, that's a different matter altogether requiring much more extensive add on electronics, selenoids, servos, etc., and would likely be a several $K addition.
An interesting new box is Audi's DSG (Direct Shift Gearbox), which has remarkably quick shifts, on the order of less than .1 seconds vs. nearly .5 seconds for a regular manual. In just two shifts for the quarter mile and you're looking at around .5 seconds saved overall ... potentially!
#7
Originally posted by kevinb120@Apr. 8th, 2004, 10:22 PM
I remember the rumors way back that the next SVT will have paddle shifters. They have the conversion already developed(but not sold publicly) and another version of the same tranny as the cobra in the Austin Martin. :scratch:
I remember the rumors way back that the next SVT will have paddle shifters. They have the conversion already developed(but not sold publicly) and another version of the same tranny as the cobra in the Austin Martin. :scratch:
And yes...I will sound like a friggin' broken record.......
But I think they should focus on getting IRS before all this electronic doo-dads. I mean really....do we need paddle shifters ina Mustang. It's not like any of us are threatening to become the next Michael Schumacher.
#9
Originally posted by crazyhorse@Apr. 9th, 2004, 12:24 PM
Question: If SVT is considering SMG for the Cobra, why doesn't the Ferrari competitor (Ford GT, of course) have one? I hope that they offer it, but, optional only.
Question: If SVT is considering SMG for the Cobra, why doesn't the Ferrari competitor (Ford GT, of course) have one? I hope that they offer it, but, optional only.
Besides....there's something just so right about executing the perfecting downshift
#13
Originally posted by crazyhorse@Apr. 9th, 2004, 12:24 PM
Question: If SVT is considering SMG for the Cobra, why doesn't the Ferrari competitor (Ford GT, of course) have one? I hope that they offer it, but, optional only.
Question: If SVT is considering SMG for the Cobra, why doesn't the Ferrari competitor (Ford GT, of course) have one? I hope that they offer it, but, optional only.
The Cobra, being much more a money-maker for Ford, with a commensurate R&D budget, would, I think, be a more likely candidate for Ford to cut their teeth on these new tranny technologies.
#14
Originally posted by Joes66Pony+Apr. 9th, 2004, 6:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joes66Pony @ Apr. 9th, 2004, 6:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-crazyhorse@Apr. 9th, 2004, 12:38 PM
Where is the IRS **** when you need him
Where is the IRS **** when you need him
That's better.
#15
Originally posted by Dan+Apr. 9th, 2004, 3:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dan @ Apr. 9th, 2004, 3:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
I will be silent
Originally posted by Joes66Pony@Apr. 9th, 2004, 6:39 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-crazyhorse
<!--QuoteBegin-crazyhorse
@Apr. 9th, 2004, 12:38 PM
Where is the IRS **** when you need him
Where is the IRS **** when you need him
I will be silent
It's a conspiracy by the drag racers and NASCAR I'll tell ya!
Oh well...I think it's valid point..but hey...not my board. B)
#16
Don't get me wrong, it is a valid point. I was just bringing up the IRS **** thing. Ford should (and I think will) offer IRS in some future, non-cobra car. They will need to offer live axle or figure out how to make the IRS non-hop for the drag racers.
#17
Originally posted by Joes66Pony+Apr. 9th, 2004, 10:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Joes66Pony @ Apr. 9th, 2004, 10:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
I will be silent
That's better.
Originally posted by Dan@Apr. 9th, 2004, 3:20 PM
Originally posted by Joes66Pony@Apr. 9th, 2004, 6:39 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-crazyhorse
<!--QuoteBegin-crazyhorse
@Apr. 9th, 2004, 12:38 PM
Where is the IRS **** when you need him
Where is the IRS **** when you need him
I will be silent
That's better.
Oh well...I think it's valid point..but hey...not my board. B) [/b][/quote]
I'm just playing around Joe. I got this custom title because I shut down an IRS thread where tempers were getting heated and before I knew it, I was the IRS ****.
Funny thing is, I'd probably opt for IRS if they offered it.
I think Ford probably did a great job with the current setup and you can't beat the live axle for strength so looking on the positive side, eh, its not that bad.
#18
Originally posted by Galaxieboy@Apr. 9th, 2004, 10:23 AM
kevin..
they had pictures of the mule on BON over a year ago
the slapstick would be nice for the autos, but it is not the same as a real gearbox for me
kevin..
they had pictures of the mule on BON over a year ago
the slapstick would be nice for the autos, but it is not the same as a real gearbox for me
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my personal take on this is keep the paddle shifters off of a mustang. Straight up autos or Manuals. I know it's achaic to a degree but the heck with it. I think paddle shifters are rediculous.
That's my ONLY beef with the Vanquish..but i think you can get regular shifter for them.
That's my ONLY beef with the Vanquish..but i think you can get regular shifter for them.
#20
Originally posted by kevinb120+Apr. 10th, 2004, 3:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kevinb120 @ Apr. 10th, 2004, 3:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Galaxieboy@Apr. 9th, 2004, 10:23 AM
kevin..
they had pictures of the mule on BON over a year ago
the slapstick would be nice for the autos, but it is not the same as a real gearbox for me
kevin..
they had pictures of the mule on BON over a year ago
the slapstick would be nice for the autos, but it is not the same as a real gearbox for me
They use a manual clutch? I always thought they were automatics with a "manual mode" that gave the driver the control of the shifter.