New steering wheel question 07
#22
Originally Posted by Anomalus1
not sure which it is, i don't recall seeing a shiny shifter in the SAP
#23
Originally Posted by Tres Wright
Quite true, but I was quoting from the 2007 order guide. It states in 3 different places in the order guide that the SAP has a "bright shift **** w/ manual transmission". I don't think a black leather shift **** qualifies as "bright" But who knows, maybe they decided at the last minute to only put the shiny version in the PTP. Or maybe for some reason that car has the wrong one in it.
I am thinking "premier trim" is the only option that gets the trim ring and aluminum shifter.
#24
Originally Posted by Tres Wright
Here's a pic of the SAP with the shiny shift ****. You can tell this is the SAP because of the black seats & carpet.
Hmmm...this is confusing!
#25
Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
It might be the IUP because the door handles are aluminum colored. I don't think you get those in the ISAP.
Hmmm...this is confusing!
Hmmm...this is confusing!
#26
Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
It might be the IUP because the door handles and vent doors are aluminum colored. I don't think you get those in the ISAP.
Hmmm...this is confusing!
Hmmm...this is confusing!
#27
Originally Posted by Anomalus1
exactly, plus the trims are white/silver/gray, and not black. Tres, what you're posting is still the PTP, there's like 4 or so versions of it.
#28
Originally Posted by Tres Wright
Nope, the PTP is like the old ICAP interior. It is an all black interior with accent colored seats and door panel inserts. The SAP on the other hand is like the pic I posted above, black carpet & seats with accent colored door panels, console & dash. I'll post a pic of the PTP in a few minutes....
#29
Here are pics of the PTP interior lifted from other threads.
By the way, all the info I've posted is straight out of the '07 order guide including the description of the SAP interior (black carpet, black seats).
By the way, all the info I've posted is straight out of the '07 order guide including the description of the SAP interior (black carpet, black seats).
#30
Originally Posted by Anomalus1
http://www.lotpro.com/cars/2007/ford/mustang/options/ <--- go there, read the UPs. The SAP does not have accent panels (black only)
#31
Originally Posted by Tres Wright
Exactly. The door panel inserts, seats and carpet are black. It's the REST of the door panel that is the accent color. This is the opposite of the PTP which has accent colored door panel insets with the rest of the door panel being black. Review the photos above and you'll see what I'm talking about.
#32
Originally Posted by Tres Wright
Yeah, but you don't get the shiny shift **** with the IUP!!! I've seen several pics of '07's with IUP that did not have that ****.
Thoughts?
#33
Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
Yes, exactly, you get that shiny shift know with Premier trim! I think that is the IUP with Premier trim (should have clarified that in my previous post). I am looking at the order guide again and the only requirement for Premier is leather.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
#34
Originally Posted by Tres Wright
The grey with black seats pic is the IUP with SAP, not PTP. You can get the IUP with either the SAP or PTP (but not both). The one difference is you can get the SAP without IUP, but you must have the IUP if you want the PTP! And it is indeed very confusing It took a lot of digging to get this all sorted out.
#35
Originally Posted by Tres Wright
The grey with black seats pic is the IUP with SAP, not PTP. You can get the IUP with either the SAP or PTP (but not both). The one difference is you can get the SAP without IUP, but you must have the IUP if you want the PTP! And it is indeed very confusing It took a lot of digging to get this all sorted out.
I am still scratching my head!
By the way, I ordered a car with SAP and no IUP in light graphite. I am not expecting to see the aluminum shift **** or trim ring. This is still mysterious!
#36
Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
You sure about being able to get IUP and SAP together? In the table listed on http://www.lotpro.com/cars/2007/ford/mustang/options/, it says that SAP is not available with IUP or PTP.
I am still scratching my head!
By the way, I ordered a car with SAP and no IUP in light graphite. I am not expecting to see the aluminum shift **** or trim ring. This is still mysterious!
I am still scratching my head!
By the way, I ordered a car with SAP and no IUP in light graphite. I am not expecting to see the aluminum shift **** or trim ring. This is still mysterious!
#37
Originally Posted by Anomalus1
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=49329 <--- go there and look at other cars with PTP, they are black also. PTP does not mean the seats and carpet can't be black.
PREMIER TRIM WITH COLOR ACCENT PACKAGE (68B)
Requires:
• 18G Interior Upgrade Pkg and GT leather seats (K)
Includes:
• Aluminum Pedal Covers
• Chamois, Red, Black, Dove and Parchment sport bucket leather front and
rear seating surfaces with matching color front door trim inserts and floor
mats
• Dark Charcoal interior environment with Dark Charcoal carpet
• Satin aluminum-plated shift lever with automatic transmission or bright shift
**** with manual transmission
• Wrapped and stitched instrument panel brow, console lid, upgraded door
arm rests
Note that it clearly states the seats are the trim color (chamois, red, black, dove or parchment) with matching color front door trim inserts.
OK, now the SAP. Here is the description from the order guide:
SPORT APPEARANCE PACKAGE W/COLOR ACCENT (18M)
Includes:
• Aluminum Pedal Covers
• Black interior components providing contrast with Graphite or Parchment
interiors
• Leather-wrapped steering wheel with satin aluminum spokes
• Satin aluminum-plated shift lever with automatic transmission or bright shift
**** with manual transmission
Also listed for SAP:
Sport Appearance Package w/color accent (incl. leather-wrapped
steering wheel w/satin aluminum spokes, aluminum pedal covers, satin
aluminum-plated shifter lever w/automatic or bright shift know w/manual
transmission plus Black interior components (seats, carpet, mats, and
front door panel inserts), Cloth or leather seats providing contrast in
Graphite & Parchment Interiors
This clearly states that the SAP has black seats and black carpet. It also states that it is available in two colors, graphite & parchment. The SAP is the base model interior (graphite or parchment), except with black floor mats, seats and carpet. Note that the above descriptions match the photos I have posted EXACTLY. The grey with black seats photo is clearly the SAP and the chamois picture is the PTP.
#38
Originally Posted by Tony Alonso
You sure about being able to get IUP and SAP together? In the table listed on http://www.lotpro.com/cars/2007/ford/mustang/options/, it says that SAP is not available with IUP or PTP.
#39
Originally Posted by Tres Wright
Good grief, I'm talking to a wall here! I'll try one last time, if this doesn't convince you then we'll just have to agree to disagree. The PTP does NOT have black seats, unless it is ordered in all black. At least one guy on these forums did just that. The "accent color" can be black, and the result is there really is no accent color. So you get the other PTP features, but an all black interior. If you choose any other color, the seats are NOT black. Here is the description straight out of the order guide:
PREMIER TRIM WITH COLOR ACCENT PACKAGE (68B)
Requires:
• 18G Interior Upgrade Pkg and GT leather seats (K)
Includes:
• Aluminum Pedal Covers
• Chamois, Red, Black, Dove and Parchment sport bucket leather front and
rear seating surfaces with matching color front door trim inserts and floor
mats
• Dark Charcoal interior environment with Dark Charcoal carpet <-- (almost black, hard to see difference without an extreme closeup shot.)
• Satin aluminum-plated shift lever with automatic transmission or bright shift
**** with manual transmission
• Wrapped and stitched instrument panel brow, console lid, upgraded door
arm rests
Note that it clearly states the seats are the trim color (chamois, red, black, dove or parchment) with matching color front door trim inserts.
OK, now the SAP. Here is the description from the order guide:
SPORT APPEARANCE PACKAGE W/COLOR ACCENT (18M)
Includes:
• Aluminum Pedal Covers
• Black interior components providing contrast with Graphite or Parchment
interiors
• Leather-wrapped steering wheel with satin aluminum spokes
• Satin aluminum-plated shift lever with automatic transmission or bright shift
**** with manual transmission
Also listed for SAP:
Sport Appearance Package w/color accent (incl. leather-wrapped
steering wheel w/satin aluminum spokes, aluminum pedal covers, satin
aluminum-plated shifter lever w/automatic or bright shift know w/manual
transmission plus Black interior components (seats, carpet, mats, and
front door panel inserts), Cloth or leather seats providing contrast in
Graphite & Parchment Interiors
This clearly states that the SAP has black seats and black carpet. It also states that it is available in two colors, graphite & parchment. The SAP is the base model interior (graphite or parchment), except with black floor mats, seats and carpet. Note that the above descriptions match the photos I have posted EXACTLY. The grey with black seats photo is clearly the SAP and the chamois picture is the PTP.
PREMIER TRIM WITH COLOR ACCENT PACKAGE (68B)
Requires:
• 18G Interior Upgrade Pkg and GT leather seats (K)
Includes:
• Aluminum Pedal Covers
• Chamois, Red, Black, Dove and Parchment sport bucket leather front and
rear seating surfaces with matching color front door trim inserts and floor
mats
• Dark Charcoal interior environment with Dark Charcoal carpet <-- (almost black, hard to see difference without an extreme closeup shot.)
• Satin aluminum-plated shift lever with automatic transmission or bright shift
**** with manual transmission
• Wrapped and stitched instrument panel brow, console lid, upgraded door
arm rests
Note that it clearly states the seats are the trim color (chamois, red, black, dove or parchment) with matching color front door trim inserts.
OK, now the SAP. Here is the description from the order guide:
SPORT APPEARANCE PACKAGE W/COLOR ACCENT (18M)
Includes:
• Aluminum Pedal Covers
• Black interior components providing contrast with Graphite or Parchment
interiors
• Leather-wrapped steering wheel with satin aluminum spokes
• Satin aluminum-plated shift lever with automatic transmission or bright shift
**** with manual transmission
Also listed for SAP:
Sport Appearance Package w/color accent (incl. leather-wrapped
steering wheel w/satin aluminum spokes, aluminum pedal covers, satin
aluminum-plated shifter lever w/automatic or bright shift know w/manual
transmission plus Black interior components (seats, carpet, mats, and
front door panel inserts), Cloth or leather seats providing contrast in
Graphite & Parchment Interiors
This clearly states that the SAP has black seats and black carpet. It also states that it is available in two colors, graphite & parchment. The SAP is the base model interior (graphite or parchment), except with black floor mats, seats and carpet. Note that the above descriptions match the photos I have posted EXACTLY. The grey with black seats photo is clearly the SAP and the chamois picture is the PTP.
#40
Originally Posted by Anomalus1
and your pic fits more with the PTP (see highlights) since it has the aluminum console lid that is required with IUP, plus it looks to be stitched. SAP does not.