2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 12:46 AM
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Could do a bullitt just like my shelby 350 above only with a v6 grille, no stripes or rear spoiler, dark highland green with black interior and black bullitt wheels and a twin 'vented' hood(no bulge though).

And maybe switch up the Mach for the boss down the road with all the exact same stuff but no shaker, boss stripe kit, and the GTR headlight treatment from my 'SVT'. Switch to chrome toppers, taillight surrounds and door handles and black ducktail spoiler from the '350'
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by ManEHawke@August 22, 2004, 1:45 AM
Kevin, your Shelby 500R would probably have someone in the family (ford GT) beat
It would never make 210mph, its a totally different beast. I definately think the Shelby roadster and 500 come in the exact same color schemes.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 01:23 AM
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BOSS 5.0 (5.0 liter V8 435hp/ 455lb-ft torque)

Tribar pony in the grill
Chrome BOSS 5.0 badges
GTR grill Treatment with fogs
Clear Turn signals
Sequential turn signals
Chin Spoiler
1970 BOSS c-stripes
1969 BOSS stripes on hood
Hood scoop
Side scoop
Navigation/DVD player
20" performance ultra-light wheels
Lowered 1"
New Springs and better brakes
Mach 1000 audio system
Chrome-tipped exhaust

Looks VERY close to this
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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Nice Pic. The Boss 302 could be an easy build because they all ready have an engine made. The 5.0L “CAMMER†MODULAR CRATE ENGINE ASSEMBLY M-6007-T50EA* is an upgraded variant of the 4.6L DOHC 4-valve Mustang Cobra engine, with numerous changes. With proper headers and low restriction air intake and vehicle exhaust systems, the engine will exceed 400 Bhp and have a very broad torque curve, peaking over 365 ft./lbs. http://www.fordracingparts.com/crate...dularcobra.asp

The problem would be in getting the Boss name back. From what I hear, Ford and the Shinoda Family are talking about using the name but no agreement has been reached yet. You can all ready get a Boss from them. http://www.teamshinoda.com/ I would prefer it come from ford myself.

The same thing happened with the GT40 name. Thats one of the reasons Ford change it to the Ford GT.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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a v6 supercharged is pointless when you can get a v8 wit more power for not that much more. 3 mustangs wit 500-600+ horsepower would cost
around triple the current cars price and wouldnt sell. it costs millions to design a car so they wouldnt have so many variants this is why we have aftermarket im happy with a 305 hp mach for less than 30000
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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Hmmm..... SEs

Mach 1: 350hp 3v 4.6 V8, live axle, shaker hood, GTR nose, styling inspired by 70 Mach.

Boss 351: 400hp 3v 5.7 V10, live axle, GTR nose, styling inspired well you know by a Boss mustang

Cobra: 450hp 4v 5.7 V10, indpendant rear, Cobra only styling elements

Shelby 500hp 4v 5.7 V10, independant rear, Shelby only styling elements
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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Mustang Sprint
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engine: supercharged 4.0l v6
hp: 260
tq: 275

possible svt product, pricing the same as a 2004 V6


By WaveMan2k3


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Mustang Cobra
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Engine: Supercharged 4.6l V8

HP: 500
TQ: 550

top annually produced Mustang, between 35, and 40 grand


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Mustang Cobra R #1
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Engine: Supercharged 5.4l V8

HP: 620
TQ: 650

a viper beatin machine
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By MustangMan311



SVT Mustang Cobra Shelby Edition
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Engine: Supercharged V10

HP: 650
TQ: 655


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Here are what I think are the closest chops to each description.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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I still say thats castration a stallion, when it comes to wanting a Sprint have a SC-6 in it instead of a 4.6L 281 3-vavle v8.

I was thinking about this through the night and I just thought of something. The Sprints can be GT's that have a Bored and stroked, balanced and blue printed 289, instead of the regular GT engine the 281. That would give it enough hp and torque to make it a different model from the GT, but not enough to compete with the Cobras.

I have to agree though that a SC-6 is kinda pointless in terms of a musclecar. Because as stated previously that would barely cost less then a regular GT, so why not just buy a GT.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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Here is how I would have it.

V6 - 208 HP, 240 TQ
GT - 300 HP, 320 TQ
Sprint - 320 HP, 335 TQ
Mach 1 - 350 HP, 375 TQ
G.T. 350 - 440 HP, 470 TQ
Cobra - 500 HP, 550 TQ
G.T. 500 - 520 HP, 560 TQ
Cobra R - 630 HP, 670 TQ
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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The Sprint would be completely unnecessary in that scenario, IMO. I think 5 variants should be the max.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by kevinb120@August 22, 2004, 2:20 AM
Shelby GT 350

Mild massaged 3v 4.6 V8 live axle 3650 5-speed(350hp) PBR brake upgrade. 3/4" drop with upgrade springs, strut brace
Skunk stripes
quarter window louvers
ducktail, and body color chin spoiler,
vertical pleated seats
rolled exhaust tips
wood wheel(with "SHELBY" center cap) and console insert, white "cue ball" shift ****, all IUP aluminum panels
chrome door handles and tailight surrounds
no fogs with right offset pony and bars.
chrome mirror toppers
18"x9 wheels(bullitt style dark grey with chrome raised shelby chrome bullet-shaped caps)
Engine cover

Available in white with red or blue stripes/torch red with white stripes/sonic blue with silver stripes, or black with gold only.

$30,500(manual only)



Mach 1

5.4v 3v N/A, live axle 3650 5-speed(425 hp) PBR brake upgrade, 3/4" drop with upgrade springs, strut brace

Shaker hood
black stripe package
black blade spoiler and rear window louvers
black tail panel insert
vertical pleated seat, gloss black wheel and console insert, ss shift ****
black chin spoiler
factory gt fogs with pony and corral.
body color mirror toppers
18"x9 magnum 500 wheels with gloss black inserts, machine finish

Available in screaming yellow, comp orange, black(with white stripes), white, torch red, azure blue

$33,500/34,500 Standard/auto



SVT COBRA:
5.4 4v SC 550 hp, T56 6-speed only IRS, Brembo 4 piston brake upgrade, full-on suspension upgrades, subframe connectors, strut bracing front and rear trunk support

2 seat only, recaro seats
Heated 8 way power (and power headrests) with memory
real carbon fiber dash inserts, steering wheel, and leather/carbon shifter
high gloss body color console and door inserts, ss COBRA door sill plates
all modern style, GTR headlight treatment HID
lower valance mounted svt round fog lamps and large air dam
black mesh grille with cobra emblem
mild redone lower rockers
functional side scoops, hood heat exits with slight cowl buldge
concept tail lights with platform spoiler(ala 1999 or roush style)
body color cap/heated breakaway mirrors
new rear valance with lower black mesh and exiting exhaust

Luxo stuff:
**nav, moonroof and climate control available as options**
18x9.5 wheels, svt-theme chrome thin 5-spokes

Available in dark shadow grey, metallic black, pearl white, merlot, true blue, blazing copper

$44,000-$47,000




Shelby 500R:
6.4V10 4v, 640hp, IRS, 6 speed SMG gearbox(paddle shifters), Brembo 6 piston brakes with seperate hardened hat/high-heat SS slotted rotors, full on suspension upgrades, 4-point cage and braces/subbies/ HD half shafts

2 seat only
Skunk tripes
Recaro seats(carbon fiber frame, stainless outter framework trim
8 way power memory seats, heated with racing belts
shelby 350 matching interior trim(except seats and of course shift ****-none )
shelby 350 matching ducktail
concept spare treatment in rear window
functional quarter scoops and side scoops
Twin fogs in the center of the grille, stainless mesh grille
body color headlight buckets HID
unique front and rear valances, center exit rear exaust with square tips
(painted)carbon fiber concept hood with modern hood pins
Shelby 500 taillights(simplified vyto-style), full brushed stainless panel(emblem disapears)
Racing gas cap on the side of the car(smoothie flip out like the originals)
brushed stainless door handles and custom mirrors(ovals on stalks, something sleek but shelby-ish)
Nav/climate standard, no moonroof

19x10 wheels ultra lightweight, original GT500/halibrand style

cant decide on 5 colors yet

$66,000

Maybe dump the roll bar/racing belts and have only a stainless cross car beam, possibly add air conditioned seats

of course assume all badging corresponds to vehicle
Exactly what'd I'd expect for the most part. Especially the GT350....if its the first SE, I'd expect a similar package to what you've put down Kev. Question is....when?
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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rember an SE only comes out every 1 or 2 years
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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I think the V6 is now rated at 220hp officially from Ford.

There will be no 5.0, it costs much more to make one then to put a dry sump 5.4 3v in one.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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V6
GT
California Special
High Country Special
Bullitt
Mach 1
Boss 302
Boss 429
Twister Special
Sidewinder
Shelby Cobra 350
Shelby Cobra 500

of course not all in the same year
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by charles@August 22, 2004, 4:18 PM
rember an SE only comes out every 1 or 2 years
What's a rember?
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by incorrigible+August 22, 2004, 4:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (incorrigible @ August 22, 2004, 4:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-charles@August 22, 2004, 4:18 PM
rember an SE only comes out every 1 or 2 years
What's a rember? [/b][/quote]
he ment remember*

sometimes you'll have to correct us in your head cause we're not the greatest typers
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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maybe just a rim, body and stripes package would be good for a V6 SE
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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There will be no 5.0, it costs much more to make one then to put a dry sump 5.4 3v in one.
Hey kevinb120, have you heard anything about them doing this? The reason I asked is because I heard a rumor about them using a detuned 5.4 4v out of the Ford GT for the engine in the cobra. It is supposed to put out 450 hp. I kind of blew it off because I thought the 5.4 would be to big and costly for the Mustang Cobra. Maybe there is some Truth in it?

By the way, for all us bad typer's out there, there is a freeware spell check program for Internet Explorer. Go to http://www.iespell.com/ and check it out. It does a nice job.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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nothing confirmed, but its the only thing that makes sense until the Hurricane is finished. The modulars need to go away somewhere in the near future. If it is an aluminum 5.4 it should hardly weigh any more then a 4.6.
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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I'd like to see 4.6 3v with a 6 speed and IRS. Call it whatever you want.
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