sharonelliott

Check out the two mustangs in gm's design studio

http://www.stangsunleashed.com/index.php

guess they can't hang without having a mustang around to copy from

korinwoodo

Some one want to host it for people who are too lazy to register?

korinwoodo

Ok, I registered. Don't waste your time. The link is dead.

johndlebel

The link worked for me. I see one white 2005 Mustang.

The Deviant One

<_< Not a big surprise there. Who else will Chevy look to for influence? I like to think that both have a weird mutual relationship where each depended upon each other. Remember, if it weren't for the Mustang, there would be no Camaro.

TigerGt

Find differences of this two pics :



or this :

The Deviant One

That's the point I'm trying to make. Similar proportions, similar designs.

Rampant

Considering the Mustang is rumored to be designed from CAD drawings of a BMW 3 series, I don't think we have much to talk about copying.

That being said, I don't see much similarities between the Camaro and the Mustang concepts. TigerGT, since you asked for it:

Camaro:
- nose angled back (vs. angled forward in The Mustang)
- short rear overhangs (vs. longer rear overhang)
- Invisible B pillar/rear quarter window (vs.. quarter scoops)
- pronouced hips (vs. no hips)
- deeply set rocker "cut" (vs. mid-door body line leading)
- bulged hood (vs. flat hood with front scoops)
- more vertifcal rear fascia (vs. more > design)
- rear ducktail spoiler (vs. none)
- flat, long roof (vs. more curved teardrop greenhouse)
- thin window opening (vs. taller, 2-seater look)

But, they are both silver.

The devil is in the details.

HastaLaVista

Have to agree with Rampant.

On the Rambo concept, you might want to check timelines there. Think the Pontiac had that design way before the Rambo drawing, but have never seen dated material.

MilStang

Thanks Sharon!

Always good to see competition. You can bet Ford will have one of the new Camaro's and Challenger's when they come out as well.

Boomer

I still like the Mustang Concept better...
It's a long the lines of the Challenger in that... its more of a swooping, clean masterpiece, than a jumbled bunch of creases/angles like the Camaro...comparible to a picaso...

All of them works of art in their own rite...
...but I love the sweeping look of the stang.

kevinb120

The Camaro looks hakneyed and a lot of the 'ideas' do not match, like the sculpted rear 60's fender/door connection(which is still poorly done unlike the Challenger) and the neo-modern front end, and the rear tail lights that look like they're out of some bad styling concept from the late 1070's.....I think the camaro concept is terribly executed, just because it has big wheels on it does not make it 'cool'. Its that nails-on-chalboard sound I hear in my head everytime someone thinks some stupid sketch of a blob with 40" wheels on it and 6" high side glass looks 'awesome'...

The beauty of the s197 mustang is that it looks good from afar, and you find more angles the more you look, including ones it takes a few minutes to notice; such as the way the front fender 'blocks' the bumper from view from the rear 3/4, or the way the body 'tucks' way more then you would think looking at the rear from the front 3/4, or how flat the uper corners of the trucklid blend into the b/c pillar.... darn I'm gonna go out and look at mine some more... I'm still amazed that Ford got metal bent so sharply in a car that starts under $20k, makes you really realize how much a Camry buyer gets raped on the price from Japan...

And what's this crap about 'copying' anything on the mustang concept, um, its EVERYONE ELSE that coppied the original.

The Deviant One

Lol. Probably not. Remember, Mustang has always been the leader not the follower IMO.

kevinb120

Its not a concept, its one of thousands of sketches, and a lame one at that

Amy V6

All the automakers do that.

kevinb120

Funny thing is I was going to post that that 'rambo' sketch was for the 1994 model year and guessed about 1989. I just checked my refference material, and guess what.....1989. Now when did PONTIAC redo the Firebird to that style...hmmmm :scratch:

The answer is....1993. So where did that idea come from?? So maybe Ford put a dumb looking sketch into play hoping Pontiac would bite and make the car even dumber looking, ensuring its death! It could happen...

Gattguy47

Everybody needs influences, like it was said above the mustang was rumored to be deisgned from a BMW, then I am not suprised to see Chevy using the Mustang. Mustang just didn't have any competition at the time and couldn't use something from its own market to design from.

future9er24

bah, took the words right out of my mouth :P

FordFun

That Rambo reminds me of the Mustang Mach III idea. I wonder how much
those two are related?

I believe HTT and his team based the new Mustang off the same years that
GM is basing the Camaro. If you were designing a car today you would and
should look at what's currently in the marketplace. It's how you get ideas and
then improve upon them.

An aside: I've noticed in talking to some friends and family that they
confuse the 99-04 with the 05-06 very often. The interesting thing to
note is that the new Mustang gets confused with the old version by the
not so discerning eye. My point: It's a MUSTANG and not anything else.

Boomer

MachIII was in 93 if I am not mistaken.
It was the concept for the eventual 94 mustang 'rebirth'