just took on a charger R/T
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just took on a charger R/T
we were next to each other at a few lights (i had a friend with me in mine) and i could FEEL him looking over my car and i glanced a few times catching it. well we finally get to a light and when it turned green i could hear him floor it so ofcorse i take it on. now remind you i wasnt AT ALL ready since he didnt rev, ask if i wanted to go or even instigate at the previous lights, he just floored it. he was about 1/2 length in front of me and not knowing what kind of H/P he was running with i went for it. since the bar i was going to was about 500 ft ahead i had to slow down (cant pass the bar!) but when i eventually hit the brakes my nose was about 2 feet in front of his. again, AFTER he got a jump start. only mods i have is a K&N CAI and axbleback flows.
i just got home now to check the specs and i see 5.7-liter V8
HORSEPOWER/TORQUE: 340 hp @ 5000 rpm/390 lb.-ft. @ 4000 rpm. but the weight, thats definetely where it killed him 3,800 - 4,031 lb. the mustang 3483-3518.
sorry but to me your 4 door family sedan just will never be a muscle car in my eyes. (the classic 2 door though is another story
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i just got home now to check the specs and i see 5.7-liter V8
HORSEPOWER/TORQUE: 340 hp @ 5000 rpm/390 lb.-ft. @ 4000 rpm. but the weight, thats definetely where it killed him 3,800 - 4,031 lb. the mustang 3483-3518.
sorry but to me your 4 door family sedan just will never be a muscle car in my eyes. (the classic 2 door though is another story
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he he...yah, those cars are pigs. Personally, I think I'd like them alot more if they didn't call them Chargers. I can't accept a 4-door muscle car, either.
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Yeah those cars are heavy. Big HP but not big acceleration. The SRT-8s are another story, though.
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I was actually involved in a LOONG thread on the charger forums, where most of them were saying they have been annihilating S197s left and right. Fact is that if you look in any magazine, or go to any charger forum or anything, the R/T is a 14 second car stock. Whats worse is even with quite a few bolt ons, they are stilll only upper 13s. Motor trend even did a comparison of the two and a stock GT came in .8 seconds faster in the 1/4 than the R/T, but you cant say that on a charger forum, lol.
Anyway, good kill, and yes I agree, the classic R/T is a beautiful thing.
Anyway, good kill, and yes I agree, the classic R/T is a beautiful thing.
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well, I know there are other factors, but if you figure the HP/weight ratio, they are very close.
Stock for stock it should be a driver's race. Yes, the SRT8 is another animal. Can't wait to whoop one of those, too.
Stock for stock it should be a driver's race. Yes, the SRT8 is another animal. Can't wait to whoop one of those, too.
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From what I understand, the Charger is a speed density car, umm make that a mercedes based speed density car, ever hard to mod from what I understand. I messed with a black hemi charger awhile back and roasted him in 3 out of 3 runs, was also looking to mess with a daytona charger (I think thats what it was) but there was no clear space.
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I was actually involved in a LOONG thread on the charger forums, where most of them were saying they have been annihilating S197s left and right. Fact is that if you look in any magazine, or go to any charger forum or anything, the R/T is a 14 second car stock. Whats worse is even with quite a few bolt ons, they are stilll only upper 13s. Motor trend even did a comparison of the two and a stock GT came in .8 seconds faster in the 1/4 than the R/T, but you cant say that on a charger forum, lol.
Anyway, good kill, and yes I agree, the classic R/T is a beautiful thing.
Anyway, good kill, and yes I agree, the classic R/T is a beautiful thing.
Maybe V6 S197s, but I think even the V6 would give the new R/Ts a run for their money
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From what I understand, the Charger is a speed density car, umm make that a mercedes based speed density car, ever hard to mod from what I understand. I messed with a black hemi charger awhile back and roasted him in 3 out of 3 runs, was also looking to mess with a daytona charger (I think thats what it was) but there was no clear space.
It's just hard to come back from that kind of disadvantage in weight. You need some serious power. They probably race better from a roll, IE at highway speeds.
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That fugly thing should NEVER have been given the Charger badge. Frankly I couldn't give a squat if they manage to outrun my Mustang. Dipstick thinks he's driving a Charger? Seriously?
Mustang = true to heritage
Charger = some German suit saying, "hey, let's defile an American Muscle Car!"
Mustang = true to heritage
Charger = some German suit saying, "hey, let's defile an American Muscle Car!"
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Not really... sure they're a bit quicker than the R/T but not by as much as one would think.
I've raced 2 SRT-8's at the track with my modded GT and it wasn't all that close. I won handily both times. Sure they were gaining quick toward the end, but I had em by a couple car lengths at the beams.![Dunno](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
In a street race of longer length, they'd get the best of me up top, that's where they make their power, but they can't dig off the line worth poop.
I've raced 2 SRT-8's at the track with my modded GT and it wasn't all that close. I won handily both times. Sure they were gaining quick toward the end, but I had em by a couple car lengths at the beams.
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In a street race of longer length, they'd get the best of me up top, that's where they make their power, but they can't dig off the line worth poop.
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That fugly thing should NEVER have been given the Charger badge. Frankly I couldn't give a squat if they manage to outrun my Mustang. Dipstick thinks he's driving a Charger? Seriously?
Mustang = true to heritage
Charger = some German suit saying, "hey, let's defile an American Muscle Car!"
Mustang = true to heritage
Charger = some German suit saying, "hey, let's defile an American Muscle Car!"
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It's not just HP/Weight, but also gearing. I don't know about the Charger, but my Magnum R/T had 2.92 gears. So on top of terrible throttle lag, I had the tallest gears of any car I've ever owned, I swear. And there's not aftermarket available. If they were geared right, it could definitely be a good race. But they're not, and there's only a handful of performance parts available.
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Not really... sure they're a bit quicker than the R/T but not by as much as one would think.
I've raced 2 SRT-8's at the track with my modded GT and it wasn't all that close. I won handily both times. Sure they were gaining quick toward the end, but I had em by a couple car lengths at the beams.![Dunno](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/dunno.gif)
In a street race of longer length, they'd get the best of me up top, that's where they make their power, but they can't dig off the line worth poop.
I've raced 2 SRT-8's at the track with my modded GT and it wasn't all that close. I won handily both times. Sure they were gaining quick toward the end, but I had em by a couple car lengths at the beams.
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In a street race of longer length, they'd get the best of me up top, that's where they make their power, but they can't dig off the line worth poop.
I killed 3 of those on my local track.
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I wouldn't mind having one of the Daytona R/T's at all - would make a pretty nice and fun to drive family car. I also think they make some mean looking police cruisers. Even though they aren't as quick as a Mustang it's cool that they are available with a big V8 in this day and time instead of a Mitsubishi built 4-banger or worse.
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I wouldn't mind having one of the Daytona R/T's at all - would make a pretty nice and fun to drive family car. I also think they make some mean looking police cruisers. Even though they aren't as quick as a Mustang it's cool that they are available with a big V8 in this day and time instead of a Mitsubishi built 4-banger or worse.