2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

June 2004 Mustang Enthusiast Magazine

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Old May 4, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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it's on its way...boomer should get it soon

it is massive tho...it may take a few to squeeze around the little internet pipes.
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Old May 4, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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Boomer man, post 'em up!
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Old May 4, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by TampaBear67@May. 4th, 2004, 11:19 PM
Yeah Looks like they were comparing it to a lofty group of competitors! As for the "GTO" in the background, It's a darn Shame! I couldn't even tell what it was. Just looks too Bland and Generic! I'm a Ford man through and through, but I do appreciate older GTO's among other GM cars, but that GTO's just lame looking. I had thought that since Ford had quit making a 4 seat Thunderbird, that I would have to consider a GTO or a G35 Coupe to replace My 97LX 4.6 Bird when the time came untill I saw The New GTO at the New Car Show last year, :notnice: and the G35 was just too Cramped inside for me. But that was all before I saw the 05 Mustang, that will be the replacement for my Bird when she's ready to retire!




Now if the GTO looked like this, well........ I'd still go for the 05 Stang!
I don't know. I think stock, the GTO is bland. However, with that retro hood, it looks actually quiet good. It actually looks bold and kind of bad hiney. Now if only they had duals that exited one perside, then it would be perfect. The Mustang GT actually doesn't look that much cooler than the GTO in that one pic. Now if we are talking about a factory GTO, heck no, thoose are ungodly bland. But the one in that pic, actually does justice to the name GTO.
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Old May 4, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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That is, of course, if you don't mind fake hoodscoops.
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Old May 4, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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Talking

I have a 10MB download cap...
Lets just say it took just shy of 4 seconds to download






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Old May 4, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Must now read
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Old May 4, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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Good read but they avoided talking about future models.

Gets you excited about the new stang though doesn't it?

Thanks again for the quick post Boomer.
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Old May 4, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Great photo to compare the GT's front end to the v-6. To me the v-6 front end just looks perfect! Thanks for the pics never can see too many of them............................
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Old May 4, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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On page 39 of the article, when answering questions about the solid rear axle, Thai-Tang stated and I quote,
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"Of course, for the customer who will sacrifice a bit of the raw performance for a more refined and balanced car, we'll have something for them down the road"
Hau Thai-Tang

So waht does this mean? I really don't see the New Cobra giving up any performance, raw or otherwise. Refined and Balanced? Hummmmmm........?

Let the speculation begin! </span>
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Old May 4, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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Maybe a V6 with every option you can possibly think of
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Old May 5, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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I have a subscription to this mag, and I love it. The '05 bit is segmented into several issues. Each issue deals with a certain area of the build. Obviously, the first was about the suspension. The next is on the engine.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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I read this article last week. I liked it a lot, very thoughtful, detailed and well balanced, not 90% drivetrain focus, 10% the rest of the car like a lot of Mustang mags.

Interesting that they mentioned they would offer an IRS on "... our higher-end performance models..." -- note they mentioned models in the plural. Again, I like that they devoted so much attention to the chassis, braking, and handling as so many Mustang mags are so narrowly focused on the drivetrain and dragstrip. The new chassis does look very promising indeed and should be orders of magnitude better than the current antique, the SN95.

And the attention to vehicle control and ergonomic details such as proper pedal placement for heel and toe driving also bodes very well for not only how fast the S195 will go, but how well the S195 will go fast. They seem to be benchmarking some very fine handling cars such as the RX-8 and M3.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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Great article! It did its job and now I'm even more excited about this car.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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thanks for the info an pic's
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Old May 5, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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I coulda saved four dollars by just reading it on the foruns....lol oh well...life goes on
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Old May 5, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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You have to wonder if one of those mules has an SVT or other yet unannounced powertrain in it. It's good to see they are benchmarking against the M3. We can only hope this will translate to excellent handling.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 10:20 AM
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Dang,

I just bought that magazine last night! Oh well, it's still cool to have it.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by Dan@May. 4th, 2004, 6:59 PM
Need more info!!

I have to be honest here....the first thing I thought was the last car was a Grand Prix....totally serious. For a split second I was wondering why they were using a Grand Prix in the comparison?

Looks like a good article.
At first glance, I thought the BMW was the GTO.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Well There's One Face in this Crowd that will not get mistaken for anything else.... .

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Old May 5, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by TampaBear67@May. 4th, 2004, 11:36 PM
On page 39 of the article, when answering questions about the solid rear axle, Thai-Tang stated and I quote,
<span style='color:red'>
"Of course, for the customer who will sacrifice a bit of the raw performance for a more refined and balanced car, we'll have something for them down the road"
Hau Thai-Tang

So waht does this mean? I really don't see the New Cobra giving up any performance, raw or otherwise. Refined and Balanced? Hummmmmm........?

Let the speculation begin! </span>
I think what is meant by Raw performance is that with IRS you are going to loose a bit of the initial burst of power due to the lack of rigidity in the rear end. Wheel hop amoung other issues rob cars of the initial launch. However, it more then makes up for it after that. I dont read giving up performance to the GT or other models, I read giving up raw performance to a solid axle version of itself. So if you had two identical Cobras lined up for a Raw Race (read Drag) one with IRS and the other with a solid axle you would initially see the solid axle winning, but throw in a turn or two and the IRS is going to ease ahead. THis is not meant to open the IRS or not can again. Lets not start that. THe argument is not going to ever be settled.
As for balanced, I would not read 50/50 into what he is saying. I would say it is a more balance performer. IE not just a dragger, but a balance betwenn drag and autocross, street, slalom, etc. you may give up a little here to get a little there; hence the use of the word balance. Just my opinion tho.
Refined, well ford has made it no secret that they want the next cobra to go after the BMW M series so itll have to be more refined.
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