GT350?
3/10/06, 06:41 AM
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They call that a V8 [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
I can't see them releasing a S/E V6 anytime soon.
Not ford..anyway.
The power levels would be overlapping from V6 - V8 - V6SC - V8SC
Ford already offers more power for those who want something more than the V6 210hp
Its the 300hp V8
I can't see them releasing a S/E V6 anytime soon.
Not ford..anyway.
The power levels would be overlapping from V6 - V8 - V6SC - V8SC
Ford already offers more power for those who want something more than the V6 210hp
Its the 300hp V8
3/10/06, 09:23 AM
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The Shelby V8 will be done by West Coast Customs on a very limited basis (25). The Shelby V6 will be done at Shelby American in Las Vegas according to customer demand. The car won't really be "released", but rather you will take your new (or used) '05+ V6 to them for modification. They may warranty their work, but I am sure that the SC will void the factory warranty. The car will have nothing to do with Ford, and is not badged as a GT350. See this link for more information: Shelby I have seen the Shelby V6 in person and talked at length to Shelby personell about it. They were very nice and actually seemed interested in my opinions. They said their modifications could be done to a convertible as well, and you could pick and choose what you wanted. I actually hated the pictures I had seen, but must admit the car was pretty sharp in real life. I told them that the giant snake and the billboard SHELBY stripes were too much. They said they'd leave them off. It is $5500 for the cosmetic mods, $15000 for the whole works, labor not included! Worth it? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dunno.gif[/img] You'd definitely have something unique!
3/10/06, 10:06 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Airwolf @ March 10, 2006, 11:06 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Thanks for the tip, but not everyone can afford the car or the insurance.
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Well said.
Lets face it.. 80% of all Mustangs sold are V-6, its only now that the aftermarket is really seemingly getting onboard the V-6 bandwagon (realizing the potential financial gain).
If you want to spend 15k on one of these Shelby upgrades, I say go for it, but for that kind of coin I think a person could do much better with picking and selecting various aftermarket items on their own to create their own pumped up V-6.
Then it would be truly unique, and if you were savy enough, you'd be able to push the performance threshold past the 400-450hp mark. How about that? A V-6 on par with the actual Shelby Mustang that Ford is introducing this year!
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Thanks for the tip, but not everyone can afford the car or the insurance.
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Well said.
Lets face it.. 80% of all Mustangs sold are V-6, its only now that the aftermarket is really seemingly getting onboard the V-6 bandwagon (realizing the potential financial gain).
If you want to spend 15k on one of these Shelby upgrades, I say go for it, but for that kind of coin I think a person could do much better with picking and selecting various aftermarket items on their own to create their own pumped up V-6.
Then it would be truly unique, and if you were savy enough, you'd be able to push the performance threshold past the 400-450hp mark. How about that? A V-6 on par with the actual Shelby Mustang that Ford is introducing this year!
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/drool.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/drool.gif[/img] [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/drool.gif[/img]
3/10/06, 11:29 AM
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Ok I'm not going to get into this V6 vs V8 stuff that is the common occurance around here...as most of it is unjustified, and just turns into bashing.
You think a 350-400hp supercharged V6 is going to be cheaper than a 350-400hp V8... keep dreaming.
I love the V6s..I had one. But it is what it is..
Its the entry level car sporty mustang.
It's quick, fun to drive etc.
The GT is the next step... the GT500 is the step after that.
You think a 350-400hp supercharged V6 is going to be cheaper than a 350-400hp V8... keep dreaming.
I love the V6s..I had one. But it is what it is..
Its the entry level car sporty mustang.
It's quick, fun to drive etc.
The GT is the next step... the GT500 is the step after that.
3/10/06, 11:34 AM
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I'm not bashing the V6 either, but good luck going out and getting a V6 and putting 400-450 HP into that block. Not only will that cost a small fortune, but you will blow it up in the process.
3/10/06, 11:43 AM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(acadian @ March 10, 2006, 12:37 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I'm not bashing the V6 either, but good luck going out and getting a V6 and putting 400-450 HP into that block. Not only will that cost a small fortune, but you will blow it up in the process.
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If you guys were to go the traditional route (i.e. buying it new) then yes, I'd agree the price would be more than a comporable V-8. I however have learned to never buy a car used, you're going to get screwed on the price no matter what. Wait two to three years.
You buy used, you beef up the bottom end, add some forced induction, tack on some nitrous and yes you can produce a V-6 mustang (based on the 05 model and on) that will produce those numbers and for a lot less than if you bought a V-8 new with some minor mods. The cost saving alone each year on insurance rates would save me nearly $2,000 a year where I live (Phoenix).
I'm sure you think I'm blowing smoke out my ****, but I've seen enough V-6 modifications with comporable displacements, to know I'm not.
I'm not bashing the V6 either, but good luck going out and getting a V6 and putting 400-450 HP into that block. Not only will that cost a small fortune, but you will blow it up in the process.
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If you guys were to go the traditional route (i.e. buying it new) then yes, I'd agree the price would be more than a comporable V-8. I however have learned to never buy a car used, you're going to get screwed on the price no matter what. Wait two to three years.
You buy used, you beef up the bottom end, add some forced induction, tack on some nitrous and yes you can produce a V-6 mustang (based on the 05 model and on) that will produce those numbers and for a lot less than if you bought a V-8 new with some minor mods. The cost saving alone each year on insurance rates would save me nearly $2,000 a year where I live (Phoenix).
I'm sure you think I'm blowing smoke out my ****, but I've seen enough V-6 modifications with comporable displacements, to know I'm not.
3/10/06, 12:06 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Airwolf @ March 10, 2006, 10:06 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Thanks for the tip, but not everyone can afford the car or the insurance.
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I understand the theory of what you said. But, I'm not sure you thought this through.
If Ford offered a s/c V6 from the factory, I gaurantee it would cost as much or more than a GT 300HP V8.
The insurance would be as much or more as well. Insurance companies don't care how many cyclinders your car has.
Thanks for the tip, but not everyone can afford the car or the insurance.
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I understand the theory of what you said. But, I'm not sure you thought this through.
If Ford offered a s/c V6 from the factory, I gaurantee it would cost as much or more than a GT 300HP V8.
The insurance would be as much or more as well. Insurance companies don't care how many cyclinders your car has.
3/10/06, 12:41 PM
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You mean this s/c'd shelby V6?
http://www.shelbyautos.com/cs6/info.asp
39k for a V6 Mustang seems a bit steep. Why not buy a v8 and mod the heck out of it. Unless you are looking for a collectible.
I know one thing, I want THAT hood.
http://www.shelbyautos.com/cs6/info.asp
39k for a V6 Mustang seems a bit steep. Why not buy a v8 and mod the heck out of it. Unless you are looking for a collectible.
I know one thing, I want THAT hood.
3/10/06, 01:28 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(WhipItGood @ March 10, 2006, 12:46 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
If you guys were to go the traditional route (i.e. buying it new) then yes, I'd agree the price would be more than a comporable V-8. I however have learned to never buy a car used, you're going to get screwed on the price no matter what. Wait two to three years.
You buy used, you beef up the bottom end, add some forced induction, tack on some nitrous and yes you can produce a V-6 mustang (based on the 05 model and on) that will produce those numbers and for a lot less than if you bought a V-8 new with some minor mods. The cost saving alone each year on insurance rates would save me nearly $2,000 a year where I live (Phoenix).
I'm sure you think I'm blowing smoke out my ****, but I've seen enough V-6 modifications with comporable displacements, to know I'm not.
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Buying used would definitely save you some cash. But if you are talking about making that kind of power with nitrous, I don't think you'd end up with a street-able car in the end. If you are talking about a bracket racer, sure. Nitrous can get you into the 400-450HP range with a 6-banger for not too much cake. But the only way to make that kind of power with that block (and still keep it a daily driver) would be maybe a twin turbo setup. And that's not going to be cheap.
If you guys were to go the traditional route (i.e. buying it new) then yes, I'd agree the price would be more than a comporable V-8. I however have learned to never buy a car used, you're going to get screwed on the price no matter what. Wait two to three years.
You buy used, you beef up the bottom end, add some forced induction, tack on some nitrous and yes you can produce a V-6 mustang (based on the 05 model and on) that will produce those numbers and for a lot less than if you bought a V-8 new with some minor mods. The cost saving alone each year on insurance rates would save me nearly $2,000 a year where I live (Phoenix).
I'm sure you think I'm blowing smoke out my ****, but I've seen enough V-6 modifications with comporable displacements, to know I'm not.
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Buying used would definitely save you some cash. But if you are talking about making that kind of power with nitrous, I don't think you'd end up with a street-able car in the end. If you are talking about a bracket racer, sure. Nitrous can get you into the 400-450HP range with a 6-banger for not too much cake. But the only way to make that kind of power with that block (and still keep it a daily driver) would be maybe a twin turbo setup. And that's not going to be cheap.
3/10/06, 03:09 PM
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(acadian @ March 10, 2006, 2:31 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Buying used would definitely save you some cash. But if you are talking about making that kind of power with nitrous, I don't think you'd end up with a street-able car in the end. If you are talking about a bracket racer, sure. Nitrous can get you into the 400-450HP range with a 6-banger for not too much cake. But the only way to make that kind of power with that block (and still keep it a daily driver) would be maybe a twin turbo setup. And that's not going to be cheap.
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Just FYI, there's a new turbo setup for the 4-litre from Powerhouse Automotive that can achieve the power levels we've been discussing for about $5,000 with stock internals. Now granted, it would be a smart move to get things beefed up. But the option is at least already available for a price comporable to a supercharger system for the GT.
Buying used would definitely save you some cash. But if you are talking about making that kind of power with nitrous, I don't think you'd end up with a street-able car in the end. If you are talking about a bracket racer, sure. Nitrous can get you into the 400-450HP range with a 6-banger for not too much cake. But the only way to make that kind of power with that block (and still keep it a daily driver) would be maybe a twin turbo setup. And that's not going to be cheap.
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Just FYI, there's a new turbo setup for the 4-litre from Powerhouse Automotive that can achieve the power levels we've been discussing for about $5,000 with stock internals. Now granted, it would be a smart move to get things beefed up. But the option is at least already available for a price comporable to a supercharger system for the GT.
3/10/06, 05:53 PM
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What i was suggesting is that if they did produce a shelby V6, the stock enhancements on the shelby could be added to my now stock V6. For example if it came with a supercharger, that would be added into the catalog as a ford part, and available for purchase as a factory part for installation on the stock 4.6 engine.
