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Old Mar 13, 2017 | 08:43 AM
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I sure liked everything my old Goodyears offered, from dry to wet to even snow during a Canadian vacation. After 5 years and 30,000 miles it was time for a new set before another long distance trip. After quite a bit of research when I learned my Goodyears were no longer available in my size, I went with the 'new' Michelin Pilot Sport Ultra High Performance A/S 3+. Highly rated for all the same things that my Goodyears did plus this new compound supposedly handles snow even better than the prior A/S 3 version. I never plan on driving in snow but sure enough you hit it every now and then. Pricey tires for sure but not when they last 5 years. It breaks down to very little per year. I got these for $895 'out the door' (tires, tax, high speed balancing, valve stems, etc..). I'll find out about my choice as the miles add up. Bottom photo courtesy of Tire Rack.
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Old Mar 13, 2017 | 09:50 AM
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You should be with happy with those Dave. The Michelin's I've had were excellent, and long lasting. I went with the Goodrich G Force on the wife's. And while they are great tires, I have never gotten use to the side walls. They look a bit truckish to me. After searching for a tire that suited me for the use my '06 will get I went with the Falkin Ziex. Those are better than I expected for just puttering around.

FYI, a lot of the guys on the Corvette Forum use the Sport A/S non-run flats on their C7's. They give them high praise.

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Old Mar 14, 2017 | 07:18 AM
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You should be with happy with those Dave. The Michelin's I've had were excellent, and long lasting. I went with the Goodrich G Force on the wife's. And while they are great tires, I have never gotten use to the side walls. They look a bit truckish to me. After searching for a tire that suited me for the use my '06 will get I went with the Falkin Ziex. Those are better than I expected for just puttering around.

FYI, a lot of the guys on the Corvette Forum use the Sport A/S non-run flats on their C7's. They give them high praise.
I have the BFG G-Force on both of my other cars and agree that they are a fine tire. I just put them on my C4 last summer and have been very pleased, yet they still don't impress me as much as the Goodyears did. I always want to buy summer tires but it's a mistake during the cold winters. I learned that with the Goodyear GS-D3 on my Trans Am. Unreal handling and performance but turned into rock hard bricks during the cold. I need to be realistic so will try these Michelins in hopes of similar performance. I'll see if I prefer the BFG or Michelin after some miles accumulate. The BFG's are certainly less $$$, so if the same I'll just get them again. Both 'Made in US' which always influences my decisions too. I think made right below us in SC at the Michelin plant.

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Old Mar 17, 2017 | 09:09 AM
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Goodyears are good tires, but they don’t last worth shizot. The last time I had Goodyears on a car was waaay back in the late 80’s/early 90’s as OEM Eagle GT +4s on my 1989 Chevy Cavalier Z24. Never went back to them when it was time for a new set. Have used BFGs and Michelin’s on my current (BFG Touring T/A 1983 SL Benz, PSSs 2010 BMW 335i) and previous vehicles (MXV4+1998 Nissan Maxima) and have been satisfied with them. This past summer, I switched to Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ on my Stang which replaced the second set of OEM Pirelli P Zero Neros. I should have gone with these Michelins when I replaced the 1st set of Pirelli PZeros Neros, but oh well. The ride, handling, and road grip is much better with the A/S 3+ over the OEM Pirelli’s and so far tread life is still like new.

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Old Mar 17, 2017 | 11:39 AM
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I second the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 3s as I now have these on my 2006 GT after fighting with Pirelli Zeros recently. My original Neros lasted a decent 50K so I re-upped with them. The second set were a disaster....shaking, multiple road force balancings, hours wasted rotating. Pirelli refused to stand behind their garbage so with 2K, I replaced with the Michelin AS 3s and all is great and better than before. I se that FORD has switched to Michelin for the 2018 Mustangs and now I know why!!
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Old Mar 17, 2017 | 12:29 PM
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I just purchased a set of Goodyears. Not sure what you are talking about.. They are great tires.
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jazzman442
I just purchased a set of Goodyears. Not sure what you are talking about.. They are great tires.
I agree, best tires I have ever owned. I think he was mostly upset with the longevity of the Goodyears in his instance.
I sure liked the Goodyears on my Mustang as I stated in my first post. I was looking for them again, but no A/S choices for my size rim. It was just a matter of them getting old and getting too low on tread for serious rainfall or snow for my long distance travels. I think the 30k miles I got out of the set was fine.
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by NC07GTCS
I agree, best tires I have ever owned. I think he was mostly upset with the longevity of the Goodyears in his instance.
I sure liked the Goodyears on my Mustang as I stated in my first post. I was looking for them again, but no A/S choices for my size rim. It was just a matter of them getting old and getting too low on tread for serious rainfall or snow for my long distance travels. I think the 30k miles I got out of the set was fine.
Im with you..

I dont understand when people want a tire to be really sticky and last for a long time. The two don't go together.
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Old Mar 21, 2017 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NC07GTCS
I agree, best tires I have ever owned. I think he was mostly upset with the longevity of the Goodyears in his instance.
I sure liked the Goodyears on my Mustang as I stated in my first post. I was looking for them again, but no A/S choices for my size rim. It was just a matter of them getting old and getting too low on tread for serious rainfall or snow for my long distance travels. I think the 30k miles I got out of the set was fine.
Yep! I didn't like the short tread life of the Goodyears even though they were good tires. With the Michelin’s, I get great road grip and handling comparable to Goodyears, but with longer tread life. On my 2010 335i,I replaced the OEM RFTs with Michelin PSSs and got nearly 40,000 miles out of them. Replaced them with a second set of PSSs in May of last year at 71,591 miles on the odo. As of today, my ride has about 83,400+ miles and the tread is still good so I expect to get about another 40,000 miles on them. Come time to replace the second of PSSs, they will be discontinued and replaced with the Pilot Sport 4 S so I will go with those.


As for my Stang, this is the first set of A/S 3+ which I expect toget more than 50,000+ miles. Will see when that time comes and when I do I will go with the same set again.

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Old Mar 21, 2017 | 12:35 PM
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If you are worried about tread life go with the Coopers. Great tires. I have them on 2 of my vehicles.
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Old Mar 22, 2017 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by jt14894
Yep! I didn't like the short tread life of the Goodyears even though they were good tires. With the Michelin’s, I get great road grip and handling comparable to Goodyears, but with longer tread life. On my 2010 335i,I replaced the OEM RFTs with Michelin PSSs and got nearly 40,000 miles out of them. Replaced them with a second set of PSSs in May of last year at 71,591 miles on the odo. As of today, my ride has about 83,400+ miles and the tread is still good so I expect to get about another 40,000 miles on them. Come time to replace the second of PSSs, they will be discontinued and replaced with the Pilot Sport 4 S so I will go with those.


As for my Stang, this is the first set of A/S 3+ which I expect toget more than 50,000+ miles. Will see when that time comes and when I do I will go with the same set again.
That's good to hear. Appreciate the details. I still haven't put 100 miles on the tires. So far so good They better be!!
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Old Mar 23, 2017 | 09:17 AM
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That's good to hear. Appreciate the details. I still haven't put 100 miles on the tires. So far so good They better be!!


No problem bro! Ha ha! I’m sure you’ll like the A/S 3+.
Well worth the money. They stick to the road like glue, even in the rain, and are great on those corners. I like how I can take a long curving exit ramp off the 'I' at 65+ MPH.

My Stang the day I got the new A/S 3+. Big difference over the OEM Pirelli P Zero Neros.

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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 10:07 AM
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What Goodyears were you running?
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 11:06 AM
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I am running Goodyear Eagle F1 on one of my Mustangs. Great tire.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mweeps
What Goodyears were you running?
Originally Posted by Jazzman442
I am running Goodyear Eagle F1 on one of my Mustangs. Great tire.
I was going to ask that question so glad to see it was already answered. Goodyear, like all companies, makes a LOT of different tires that are very different from each other so you really have to be specific about which ones we are talking about.

I had a set of the F1's (the older ones that came on a 2010 GT500) and I thought they were pretty good also. The gave real good life for a 200 tread wear rated tire. They were actually pretty good on the road track too. They get a bad rap, mainly for being bad in the rain . . . and yeah they were pretty bad in the rain, especially when the tires were near the end of their life.
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Old Jun 24, 2017 | 08:52 AM
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My old Goodyears were the Eagle GT A/S.
Update on the new Michelins: OUTSTANDING! We were in snow and rain during our western vacation. As wonderful a tire as one could expect. Just drove in the rain again yesterday in the twisties here in the mountains. May be the best rain tire yet. They have close to 7,000 miles on them now.
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