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Glass roof option Heaveir or lighter ?

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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Glass roof option Heaveir or lighter ?

what do you guys think dont know if u guys smacked the roof of ur car but it sounds like a empty can but the glass roof isnt really heavy glass???
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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im sure it will be quite a bit heavier than the stock roof...
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by n8rfastback
im sure it will be quite a bit heavier than the stock roof...
Yeah, they're not removing the heavy parts of the roof (structural pillars, et cetera) for the glass panel anyway, just the thin sheet metal spans.

My completely uneducated guess is the glass roof by itself will add 20-30 lbs to the car. It's not rotational mass though - just offset it with an aluminum driveshaft and you'll come out way ahead.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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i like that answer
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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It's definitely heavier with the glass roof but it sure is sweet! I also like Jame's suggestion. Here's mine:









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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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^^^purdy car!
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Yow! Car looks great Ray! Is that the CDC version? I like the third brake light in that spot - was that part of the kit or a custom touch?
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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I have bad skin as it is. so i cant get one..err i dont relaly want to.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dixie_Flatline
Yow! Car looks great Ray! Is that the CDC version? I like the third brake light in that spot - was that part of the kit or a custom touch?
I think his is part of the kit - but I'll let him answer.

Here's another option - inside the window - I got mine off of a salvage Cadilliac - don't remember the model - sorry

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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Sweet... just what I needed.. more options. hehe. = D

"I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure."
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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Cool

Thanks guys. Yup... that's the CDC GlassBack. I had it installed through my local dealer who inturn used Webasto here in Southern California. It cost about $2700.00 installed (not including tax). Too bad it doesn't make the car go any faster. Since it's a weekend driver, it works great for me.

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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The glass roof will be heavier. This extra weight on top will raise the center of gravity of the car. If everything else is the same (and its not), a vert will have the best cornering, followed by the metal roof version, and the glass roof will suffer from the most body roll. Just my $0.02.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 05:29 AM
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It's not all just about weight. The structural integrity is compromised on the 'vert, they did take extra steps to brace it, but it is still different. The coupe's roof acts as a giant strut-tower brace and actually helps handling.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 05GT-O.C.D.
It's not all just about weight. The structural integrity is compromised on the 'vert, they did take extra steps to brace it, but it is still different. The coupe's roof acts as a giant strut-tower brace and actually helps handling.
I totally understand that, which is why i said "If everything else is the same (and its not)". I just included the vert into the comparison to emphasize the point about the center of gravity.

To strictly compare the coupe with the glassback, I would have to say that the center of gravity of the glassback would be higher. If Ford were to produce a carbon fiber roof (like on the new M3), this configuration would have a lower center of gravity than the metal roof. But ofcourse you can't see out of carbon fiber.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by zaghloul
But ofcourse you can't see out of carbon fiber.
You totally had my hopes up for a second.

And I highly doubt the type of person who puts this on will take it to the track enough to notice a measly 25-40 lbs on the roof.... Second of all, there's things besides body roll that should be addressed in the suspension anyway, and if I put a glassback on... I might just go all the way and put a Griggs Racing system in. = ) Maybe I should actually buy my lotto ticket before spending the winnings though....
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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Just wanted to hijack this thread to say Ray Man, your car is sexy as hell
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray Man
Thanks guys. Yup... that's the CDC GlassBack. I had it installed through my local dealer who inturn used Webasto here in Southern California. It cost about $2700.00 installed (not including tax). Too bad it doesn't make the car go any faster. Since it's a weekend driver, it works great for me.

$2,700 installed? That's not half bad at all... when did you have it done?
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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For me, being able to see out the roof and having natural sunlight in the cabin would be worth the extra weight.

Ray May, you have one sexy black stang! Wish mine were as nice.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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I have a hard time believing that so many seem to have such a hard time grasping the concept that a glass roof does not change how hot it gets in the car dramatically. EVERY CAR HAS WINDOWS, people act like the roof panel is just clear glass, do the same folks work in closets in fear that they will burst into flames at their desks at sunset? Only thing I've noticed is that the car is a touch warmer on sunny winter days. Nobody with a CDC roof, an Edge vista roof owner, or other big moonroofs like the subaru outback or mini cooper EVER complain about it being too hot.
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kevinb120
I have a hard time believing that so many seem to have such a hard time grasping the concept that a glass roof does not change how hot it gets in the car dramatically. EVERY CAR HAS WINDOWS, people act like the roof panel is just clear glass, do the same folks work in closets in fear that they will burst into flames at their desks at sunset? Only thing I've noticed is that the car is a touch warmer on sunny winter days. Nobody with a CDC roof, an Edge vista roof owner, or other big moonroofs like the subaru outback or mini cooper EVER complain about it being too hot.
Yeah, I agree, it seems like a lot of people with Mustangs are really dead set against new and innovative things. But to be honest, after seeing that KITT from the new Knight Rider, I'm not so sure I would ever blame their defensive nature....

But two points:
(1) as far as I recall, the CDC kit does not have a 100% roller sunscreen block.
(2a) recent health studies have found that a claim that something blocks 100% of UV light is a worthless claim indeed. When the product says that, it is blocking all UV "A" light and very little UV "B" light. Guess which is worse on your skin: A or B.
(2b) believe it or not, there are some people who are allergic to sunlight. Health concerns are valid and those people are advised to never ever set foot in a new Mini Cooper with a factory panoramic sunroof.
Ever.
That is truly the light that blinds.
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