2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

Gen.5 convertible open speed. ?

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Old Oct 9, 2023 | 09:45 AM
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Gen.5 convertible open speed. ?

Hi.

anyone here have the open/closing speed for rooftop, Mustang 2005 ?

seems like my is very slow compared with videos on youtube.

​​​​​​……… or is it a way to speed it up ?

thanks 😄👍🇺🇸
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Old Oct 9, 2023 | 10:20 AM
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Hello,

I Know on My Old School Cars Increasing the Engine Speed Helps! Don't Know on the Newer Ones! Perhaps One of Our S-197 Vert Guys Could Time it Next Time They Go Through The Process!

Any Voulunteer's!

I Believe Any 05-14 Would Be the Same Setup Be it the 05-09 Would No Doubt Be The Same! I Guess You Got Your Other Top Issue Ironed Out! I would Be Curious at What you Did! Perhaps You Could Update That Thread With the Resolution?

Mgb,

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Old Oct 11, 2023 | 08:09 PM
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Calling a Helpfull Convertible Owner!

Mgb,

KC
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Old Oct 24, 2023 | 02:45 PM
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Top Speed

Originally Posted by Eliminator.dk
Hi.

anyone here have the open/closing speed for rooftop, Mustang 2005 ?

seems like my is very slow compared with videos on youtube.

​​​​​​……… or is it a way to speed it up ?

thanks 😄👍🇺🇸

Hey partner, I have a 2006 Mustang GT Convertibles in mint condition. Top has never been replaced. I just closed and opened the top. I took about 16 seconds each way--closing and opening. Hope that helps.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 04:11 AM
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The Gen 5 (and earlier) tops were slower; they are operated by hydraulics. It's the same tech Ford had used for decades. When I was a little guy, my parents had a '66 Fairlane convertible, and it took the same amount of time. When I first put the top down on my '06 I was surprised to realize it sounded exactly the same as that '66 Fairlane.

Gen 6 has an electric motor and cycles the top in about 8 seconds. Ford understood that, finally going truly international with the Mustang, that Europeans would not accept the old hydraulic-actuated mechanism.
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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 09:32 AM
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With my new aftermarket pump, it takes about 20 sek.

Feel it was a little faster with the old stock pump. ….. maybe 16 sek. as You say ?

( but probably not possible to speed it up I guess ? )

thanks for fine answers guys 👍😄

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Old Oct 25, 2023 | 09:47 AM
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Make Sure You have a Real Good Clean Ground and Lubricate Every Moving Joint! Measure Voltage at Pump When Activating and Make Sure it Matches Fairly Close Measured Voltage at Battery! If Voltage is Low May Need To Check Wiring From Motor to Power Point. I would Be Curious at Reading!

An Electric Motor Shop May be Able To Hop Up the Motor if You are Bound & Determined. Might take Old Pump to Shop and Have Rebuilt and Ask if Speed Could Be Increased. Certainly Would Not Hurt To Just Take Old Motor to Motor Shop and Ask the Question Can You Speed this Up a Bit?

That's All the Tips I Got To Speed it up a Bit! Well Here is One More!

There are Voltage Boosters Out There But I Would Be Carfefull if Using One Not to go Overboard on Raising the Voltage. I Would Use at the Pump Not Wiring in Up Front. Just an Fyi For Thought! Another Question For The Motor Shop!

KC
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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 01:41 PM
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I have a 2007 GT convertible bought new and had to replace the top about 5 years ago since mine is a daily driver and I live in sunny Fla. Mine takes about 20 seconds to open or close. I also installed a one touch module for the top when new. I have found that if it starts to slow down then the brushes in the electric pump are about to fail.
First time failed, the dealer wanted $500 to R & R the motor and pump assembly. Decided to look at the motor myself and saw that the brushes were .25" x .25" with a spring attached. Local hardware store had drill motor brushes that size so replaced them myself. After 16 years I'm on my third set. Getting access to the motor only takes a few minutes after removing the rear seats but takes a while to slide the motor back together after changing the brushes.
Oh, and the brushes only cost about $12. 🙂

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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Centurion96
I have a 2007 GT convertible bought new and had to replace the top about 5 years ago since mine is a daily driver and I live in sunny Fla. Mine takes about 20 seconds to open or close. I also installed a one touch module for the top when new. I have found that if it starts to slow down then the brushes in the electric pump are about to fail.
First time failed, the dealer wanted $500 to R & R the motor and pump assembly. Decided to look at the motor myself and saw that the brushes were .25" x .25" with a spring attached. Local hardware store had drill motor brushes that size so replaced them myself. After 16 years I'm on my third set. Getting access to the motor only takes a few minutes after removing the rear seats but takes a while to slide the motor back together after changing the brushes.
Oh, and the brushes only cost about $12. 🙂
What a Great You Tube How To That Would Make!

Thanks For The Update!

KC
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 02:30 AM
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Looks like it's time to cycle my top and see how long it takes. @Centurion96 what sort of noises/issues did you see before you realized you needed to do a repair? My top was replaced back in 2008 or so (@05stangkc was the one who sold it to me!) but the motor and everything else convertible related is 18+ years old.

So far so good!


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Old Feb 2, 2024 | 11:35 AM
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Sorry for the delay, issues were that the top would slow down or stop when trying to open or close. One good thing about hydraulic systems is that if the top is over half way closed and fails then the draining action of the fluid will have it drop to the closed position. Will probably replace the brushes in the next few months and take some photos. Will also probably modify the brush cover section of the motor or come up with some sort of clamping system to where I can keep the brushes on the commutator easier. As you try to put everything back together the magnets want pull the armature back in to the motor housing and this pulls the commutator away from the brushes.
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