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Ford said they going made 192000 Mustangs for 2005

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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Yet in this modern era of efficient production lines and mechanized assembly lines we struggle to hit 200k.
Yeah, but don't forget, a good number of those cars were rusting
out before their warranties ran out!
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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I was thinking about this thread and production...What are the chances that Ford would open up another assembly plant for the Mustang? A million units for F-150's in multiple locations...how many locations? If they're building almost 200,000 out of one unit, would that validate another plant? Maybe demand won't sustain the test of time as would the F-150, so they'll stick with 1 plant. I suppose they could move the mazda platform somewhere else and make Flatrock solely Mustang, or visa versa.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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If you think about it, 100% utilization of a factory (asset) is the ideal situation. It keeps costs down for Ford, which in turn may keep the cost of the car down. Ford needs a winner with this car and others to stay in business for the long term.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by snkbtn99@March 17, 2005, 11:35 AM


1 factory, producing multiple autos (Mazda, etc) this (200K) is not too bad ... This isn't an F150 that has multiple locations cranking out nearly 1 million units per year. If demand increases, you will see more than 200k. Look at the overall sales of the Mustanf for the past 10 years. Why would you produce more than 200k per year? The factory is not struggling to hit 200k. They apparently did not have it balanced correctly and now they have adjusted.
Back in the '60s-early '70s there were multiple plants producing Mustangs. There was a plant on west coast near San Jose (Milipitas) building Mustangs just to meet the demand in the Western US... That plant is now a mall...
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Ahh it feels great to be riding the crest of this wave!! People rubberneck to look at these cars all the time. Funny none do that when I'm driving my Suburban! Our other Mustang is the commemorative Sprint edition 66 vert - for the 1 millionth Mustang celebration. I wonder when the millionth new generation Stang will be built and what commemorative edition will be offered for that milestone. Might be time to pass this one along to one of my sons then and buy another!
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Ken,

You bring up a good point on your Sprint 200. Ford uses this trick in 66 when they could not meet demands for the V8. Maybe time for an 05 Sprint? For those not familiar:

1966 Sprint 200

Ford celebrated one million Mustangs by its 2nd birthday and Ford decided to advertise the occasion nationally and boost sales by offering a 'unique content' model. Beginning with a standard 200 cid six-cylinder coupe, convertible or fastback, Ford added many popular Mustang options: automatic transmission, console, wire wheel covers, and some exterior trim deleted side scoop trim and pinstripes following the Mustang character line, all topped off with a chrome-plated "Sprint 200" air cleaner. These Mustangs were promoted as the Millionth Mustang Success Celebration Editions, or 'Spring Sprint' Mustangs.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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Kinda surprized production is still only 192,000 cars.That would place it #15 on list of yearly mustang output.However it would make it #2 in last 15 years...

ps: even the 74 and 78 II's had greater production output
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by 1 BULLITT@March 17, 2005, 11:10 AM
Are the '06 models produced before 12/31/05 included in the 192K?
Yes, I believe the number they are quoting is for calendar year 2005 which would, therefore, include 2006 models built this year.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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Yeah it seems like they didn't produce that many of the 05's last year
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by Stadifer+March 17, 2005, 11:12 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Stadifer @ March 17, 2005, 11:12 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-TomServo92@March 17, 2005, 9:24 AM
Red-hot sales and resulting production increases of a new Mustang are not unprecedented. When Mustang was first introduced in April 1964, Ford had only expected to sell 100,000 the first year. But dealers took 22,000 orders the first day. Ford shifted production mid-year and Mustang went on to sell 618,812.
Yet in this modern era of efficient production lines and mechanized assembly lines we struggle to hit 200k.
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You're comparing apples to bannanas

Back in 1964 the Mustang was nothing more than a Falcon with "sporty" sheet metal draped on it. The Falcon had been in production for 4 years, the kinks were already worked out. In addition, Ford built the 1965 - 66 Mustangs in 3 different assembly plants.

Fast forward to 2005 and the Mustang is all new and is built on a unique platform for the 1st time in it's history.

If you want a Focus with sporty sheet metal, I'm sure Ford could build a million of them for you. If you want the best Mustang Ford has ever sold, sorry, you'll have to wait your turn.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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And that's the last time I speak about production numbers. :bang:
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Originally posted by Vermillion98+March 17, 2005, 1:02 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Vermillion98 @ March 17, 2005, 1:02 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-snkbtn99@March 17, 2005, 11:35 AM


1 factory, producing multiple autos (Mazda, etc) this (200K) is not too bad ... This isn't an F150 that has multiple locations cranking out nearly 1 million units per year. If demand increases, you will see more than 200k. Look at the overall sales of the Mustanf for the past 10 years. Why would you produce more than 200k per year? The factory is not struggling to hit 200k. They apparently did not have it balanced correctly and now they have adjusted.
Back in the '60s-early '70s there were multiple plants producing Mustangs. There was a plant on west coast near San Jose (Milipitas) building Mustangs just to meet the demand in the Western US... That plant is now a mall...
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With Flexible Manufacturing, adding production with other plants should be possible.
I guess Ford is not quite there yet.

Milipitas is a shopping mall, and now the old Dearborn Assembly Plant is part of a visitors centre.
I guess that is called progress!
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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With regards to factory capacity, the component suppliers are (typically) under contract to produce a specific quantity of parts per schedule and have invested $ in tooling and machinery accordingly. So if Ford wants to increase production, it can take while for the whole system to gain the momentum.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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Isn't this increase in production a direct result of them discontinuing the Thunderbird?
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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I though the new mustang shared it's platform with the thunderbird and another model (maybe a Lincoln). In fact aren't most cars built this way to simplify the process and save on costs? Just a question.
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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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The 65's I6 were Falcon base the V8 drive train was Fairlane.

The 65 had zero competition we only had what the big 3 had to offer, GM and MOPAR had NOTHING to compete with the Mustang. Imports were not on the radar then.

Today nothing directly competes with the 05 Mustang but the market is defused with 100's of choices.
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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Here are some quick questions I sent to David Reuter in Ford Division Public Affairs:

The Mustang Source: Does increased Mustang production mean fewer Mazda 6s?
David Reuter: No. Our Mustang production increase will not have any affect on Mazda6 production at AAI. The plant will continue to build the same number of Mazda6's that they planned to at the start of the year -- which is about 75,000 units.

TMS: Is there any talk of expanding Mustang production to a different plant?
DP: No, not at this time. We are comfortable that we will have appropriate supply from AAI. We always continuously evaluate our production vs. demand situation but right now this has not been discussed.

TMS: How many Mustangs have been built and are waiting on rail cars to get to customers?
DP: We've sold over 46,000 of the new 2005 model since its debut last fall. About another 25,000 are either on their way to dealers or are already in dealer stock. The plant has additional orders for 50,000 or more cars, not including several thousand which are in production as we speak.
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Thanks for the info Brad
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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Any idea how many will be convertibles ??????????????????????????????????????
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by mmoonshot@March 17, 2005, 9:51 AM
I am so disappointed with Ford, orders are being scheduled, cars ar being built and delivered, they now say they are increasing production, I am 8 weeks C/U, selfish, maybe so, but This is starting to get crazy....I WANT MY FRIKEN CAR !!!!

:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:
16+ weeks here. :ranting:
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