Ford Recommends BP...Conspiracy?
#1
So, I've had my 2006 GT since October 17th, and I've filled up the tank 3 times. The first time was a meijer gas station, and I had the start/stop fuel tank issues the whole time. :bang: The next fill-up was at a Family Express gas station. Same problems, except this time I turned the nozzle upside down and when it got close to full about a half gallon of gas spilled all over the side of my car and on my foot. You probably know where this is going by now....This morning, I went to a BP station (this one is usually the cheapest) and I put about 12 gallons in with no problems at all .....hmmmm???.....ok, so I don't really think that it is a conspiracy, but one heck of a coincidence. Has anybody else had a similar experience?
#3
It's most likely the nozzle. Sometimes it's the way the piut the nozzle into the tank(ie the farther they push it in, the better it works)
I also found the the nozzles without the springy cover on the alwys work. The ones with the cover are toss-ups.
I also found the the nozzles without the springy cover on the alwys work. The ones with the cover are toss-ups.
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I still have the original tank with problem and the BP stations are the only ones where I can fill up without even turning the nozzle to the side! I try to use the local BP stations everytime, even though they're not the cheapest here. However, I tend to think it's merely a coincidence.
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Originally posted by tw0scoops123@October 31, 2005, 7:04 AM
It's most likely the nozzle. Sometimes it's the way the piut the nozzle into the tank(ie the farther they push it in, the better it works)
I also found the the nozzles without the springy cover on the alwys work. The ones with the cover are toss-ups.
It's most likely the nozzle. Sometimes it's the way the piut the nozzle into the tank(ie the farther they push it in, the better it works)
I also found the the nozzles without the springy cover on the alwys work. The ones with the cover are toss-ups.
#7
Here in L.A., there is no BP; just its subsidiary, ARCO. And I don't touch their pumps with a 10-foot pole, as I've heard nothing but horror stories of ARCO gas screwing with the fuel system. I'll stick to 76 or Shell.
BTW, I've had absolutely no problems filling up my V6.
BTW, I've had absolutely no problems filling up my V6.
#10
I have >2,000 miles on my 2006. I haven't had a single problem. I should mention that I have fueled up at Shell, Sunoco, BP and maybe a few others. That would seem to indicate it was a tank problem, not a gas station problem. IMHO
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I have the new tank, and still have a problem at the gas station closest to where I work (it's a Mobil in case you're wondering).
But other than that one station, I have no issues.
It was always a bigger problem at certain stations... the type of pumps they used exposed the tank problem even more (clicking non-stop).
But other than that one station, I have no issues.
It was always a bigger problem at certain stations... the type of pumps they used exposed the tank problem even more (clicking non-stop).
#12
Originally posted by yur1279@October 31, 2005, 12:07 PM
wait, so people with 06's are still having problems with the gas tank???
wait, so people with 06's are still having problems with the gas tank???
I haven't had a problem with my 05 GT in 3 months at any gas station.
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just took mine in today for a new tank. i'm not gonna do all those crazy things just to fill a gas tank.This car cost me over 30000.i should be able to fill up normally like the guy in a freakin yugo next to me.
#16
this problem usually isn't a problem with the car.
I live in Jersey.. you know the land of no self service. I pumped gas for four and a half years during college. The station i worked at was one with the rubber neck cover things. This is part of the vapor recovery system. In more urban areas you see the vapor recovery. If you have ever felt the hose on one of these nozzles, there is a smaller feed hose on the inside of the outer flex-straw looking hose.
anyway what happens with these systems is that a lot of gas vapor turns back into liquid on the inside of the hoses. When there is enough in the hose, the liquid fuel cuts off the passage of the vapor getting into the recovery. which in turns shuts the pump off.
the vapor recovery is the mechanism that shuts the fuel nozzle off when the car is "full"
Now the weird part is, its mostly fords that have the vapor recovery problem. I am guessing that ford just has a tank system that dumps a lot of fuel vapor back up into the vapor recovery.
now the last thing, you could empty the hose yourself at the station with the rubber neck deals, all you have to do is extend the hose so there is no major low spots for fuel to sit in, and pull back on the rubber neck deal, this will allow the extra fuel to escape, it will amount to a couple cups just try to stand away from it.
and the way to prevent it, is to not top off the car, rounding up to the next quarter or whatever will be fine, but dont try to top the tank off to the brim. The extra fuel that dumps back into the vapor recovery really is only maby a penny or two each full tank of gas.
I live in Jersey.. you know the land of no self service. I pumped gas for four and a half years during college. The station i worked at was one with the rubber neck cover things. This is part of the vapor recovery system. In more urban areas you see the vapor recovery. If you have ever felt the hose on one of these nozzles, there is a smaller feed hose on the inside of the outer flex-straw looking hose.
anyway what happens with these systems is that a lot of gas vapor turns back into liquid on the inside of the hoses. When there is enough in the hose, the liquid fuel cuts off the passage of the vapor getting into the recovery. which in turns shuts the pump off.
the vapor recovery is the mechanism that shuts the fuel nozzle off when the car is "full"
Now the weird part is, its mostly fords that have the vapor recovery problem. I am guessing that ford just has a tank system that dumps a lot of fuel vapor back up into the vapor recovery.
now the last thing, you could empty the hose yourself at the station with the rubber neck deals, all you have to do is extend the hose so there is no major low spots for fuel to sit in, and pull back on the rubber neck deal, this will allow the extra fuel to escape, it will amount to a couple cups just try to stand away from it.
and the way to prevent it, is to not top off the car, rounding up to the next quarter or whatever will be fine, but dont try to top the tank off to the brim. The extra fuel that dumps back into the vapor recovery really is only maby a penny or two each full tank of gas.
#18
I've not had one issue with the early fuel cutoff after 2 months and 3700 miles worth of gas.
About 85% of the gas I've put into the Mustang has been at BP, but there have been a couple tanks from Marathon, Chevron or Kroger's mixed in there too.
Although it may be worth noting, all but the 1 Marathon that I sometimes go to have been built in the last year or two, so perhaps older pumps are more prone to doing this than the newer pumps, if there's any difference at all?
About 85% of the gas I've put into the Mustang has been at BP, but there have been a couple tanks from Marathon, Chevron or Kroger's mixed in there too.
Although it may be worth noting, all but the 1 Marathon that I sometimes go to have been built in the last year or two, so perhaps older pumps are more prone to doing this than the newer pumps, if there's any difference at all?
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Heres the press release about how Ford and BP came together.
http://media.ford.com/newsroom/feature_dis...m?release=21143
http://media.ford.com/newsroom/feature_dis...m?release=21143
#20
I work for a fleet leasing company. Some clients that we lease cars to
are competitors to BP. They do not want to see a BP endorsement on their fuel cap. So, Ford makes available a Fleet only option --
98D--BP Fuel Cap Delete.
Choose this n/c option and fuel cap is blank-- just like the 2005 models!
are competitors to BP. They do not want to see a BP endorsement on their fuel cap. So, Ford makes available a Fleet only option --
98D--BP Fuel Cap Delete.
Choose this n/c option and fuel cap is blank-- just like the 2005 models!