2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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First time @140 mph

What a place .Went to the closed Grumman air strip in Calverton Long Island Easter sunday@7:00 AM and made two runs @ 140MPH each way 1 up 1 down then got out of there as it is not open.So cool Fastest run yet.Google earth it. Did not run the landing strip but the west taxi way .Happy Easter Martin
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Tough to get hit by radar in there I'm sure. Good idea for the high speed test run.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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Was there anything left in the throttle or were you tapped out?
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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First off it was in 4th and there was more to go not shur of rpms as the end was coming up quick.I was a little guarded.But had to go for it.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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Just looked at it. Between Grumman Blvd. and Route 25? You were on the eastern side I presume, since it is a little bit longer? Looks like you could still land a plane there if you had to.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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Any hood vibrations at that speed?
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 06:09 PM
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No hood vibrations @all and I was on the west side.It was so cool
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Nice idea! Don't have to worry about endangering the lives of other people. I wish they had something like that where I live.
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by newbreedgt05
Nice idea! Don't have to worry about endangering the lives of other people.
This is very true....only thing that's still scary is that if something would have happened to him, how long would it have been before noticed??
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Hollywood_North GT
Any hood vibrations at that speed?
The few times that I hit 140+ my hood was vibrating like crazy.

Originally Posted by SteelTownStang
Was there anything left in the throttle or were you tapped out?
I hit around where the 150 line would be in 5th once, and seemed to cut out there but it was on an incline. Maybe more in there but theres no line after 145 so who knows how fast it really was. Plus calibration after 100 is trash. This was stock no mods done yet. Exciting as hell but scary as hell!

Now before everyone gets on my case I do this on a 2.5 mile closed stretch of road that, I had access to, and it is surrounded by nothing but tarmac.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 04:11 AM
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The speed limiter kicks in at 149, so that is why it cut out on you.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 04:23 AM
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are you sure there is a speed limiter and it isn't limited by aerodynamics and stuff? just asking cause I have no clue
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 05:41 AM
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There is an electronic speed limiter, 149mph. The GT500 is set at 155 if I remember right. These can be, and usually are, disabled by most aftermarket tunes.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by theedge67
There is an electronic speed limiter, 149mph. The GT500 is set at 155 if I remember right. These can be, and usually are, disabled by most aftermarket tunes.
Steve's right. The 07 GTs are limited to 145 mph, but if you factor in speedometer error and other variables, it's right on the money. I'm not sure why Ford limited it to 145 mph exactly, but usually they do this for a specific reason and mainly it is to prevent the driveshaft from failing. The 2006-up Police Interceptors with factory 3.55 gears are limited to ~120 mph, while the same Police Interceptor with factory 3.27s are limited to 130 mph. The driveline critical vehicle speed is lower with the 3.55s (meaning it starts vibrating/wobbling at a lower vehicle speed). One way to increase this critical vehicle speed is by using a lighter driveshaft (which is what Ford did: aluminum for 98-up Police cars, except for 99-00 which used aluminum metal matrix).

I'm impressed with how the factory set up the 05-up GTs and wouldn't try setting the limiter higher without exploring my options for driveshafts (carbon fiber, aluminum metal matrix, etc...) first.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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yo be exact the crownies are 129.3 saw a show on them once, I just didnt think it was a speed limiter, because on my taurus it cuts the fuel at 110 till it drops to 105, the stang just seemes to not go anymore, so thats why I asked
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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that was refering to the 05 and previous cv's
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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The CVPIs with 3.27s have always been traditionally electronically limited to around 129-132 mph. The 99-00 CVPIs were the first to get 3.55s, and still kept the same 130 mph speed limiter. To do so, Ford used a more expensive AMMX driveshaft which they stopped equipping in the 2001 MY, and went back to 3.27s

Since the Dodge Charger police car (V6 and V8) were seriously outrunning and outhandling the Crown Vic, Ford responded with 3.55s for the 2006-up model years, but limited these to 120 mph using the regular aluminum driveshafts. A wise man once told me that with 3.55s, the stock steel driveshaft on a 98-02 Vic was good to around 125 mph before it started to seriously vibrate.

On the 03 E-250, once you hit 89 mph, you can hear the RPMs climb up and down like something was cutting out.
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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what did the 03-04 cobra's top out at? i saw somewhere that a guy went to the boonville salt flats and went 176 in one but ..he wasnt permitted to go any faster
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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tunes can take care of the speed limiters
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Old Apr 9, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DynamicmustangGT
tunes can take care of the speed limiters
Yes, that isn't a problem. It's easy to change the electronic speed limiters or remove it altogether. However, you have to ask yourself why Ford limited it to a certain speed. As I said before, the Police Interceptors were limited because of the driveshafts. The E-series cargo vans are also limited because of the driveshafts. I'd guess the same applies to the S197 GT. If you swap in a lighter driveshaft, it might reduce the chances of the driveshaft failing at higher speeds.
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