I am looking at purchasing some MT 3743R drag radials. Will the front lift off the ground? I am somewhat anxious about that possibility. If not, what would cause it to? Skinnies on the front? 125 shot of Nos?

Since I am a vert owner, am I stuck to 1/8 mile tracks if I get into the 12s on the 1/4 mile? Or do tracks not pay attention at Test and Tunes?

 

The right suspension setup will lift the front on launch.

 

Yeah, and a whole buttload of torque.

 

+1

I have 505 rwtq and front wheels don't come of the ground...pretty close thou..

I think you will be happier if you got the M/T ET Streets...they are DOT cheater slicks...they work better than any drag radial, in my opinion.



_________

 

A suspension setup that transfers weight, sticky tires, and weight reduction up front will help. I've seen people come close NA just with skinnies up front and suspension mods, along with bolt-ons and 4.10's.

 

LOL... +1 on the torque!

This is about the best mine can do... (for now, anyway)

 

nice lift don_w that looks like a whole bunch of fun..... and yes +2 on the torque that the 281s dont got butt loads of

 

we had 600hp (probably 650tq) on our racecar before the fronts came off the ground

 

I could of swore I read an article MM&FF did called "12's or bust" (or something like that) and they had a S197 car just showing daylight with some basic bolton's. I think they only had Bogarts Frt/Rr with DR's/skinnies, Alum DS, CAI, tune, and light weight Radiator support bar w/ swaybar delete.

I found it alittle hard to believe, but who knows... it might be possible.

 

That's awesome!

 

you need over 550 rwtq to lift the front

 

Mine got a little daylight last year with less than 500 rwtq... having the correct suspension setup helps.

 

Well my only personal experience was with Mike's car that had 575 rwtq running the Zex 175 shot

 

So other than looking cool, what's the point of it? Does it improve your times? Wouldn't that actually create additional drag with the nose in the air?

Just asking.

 

Wheelie
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/P...g-GT_92742.htm

 

Good question. The physics of a launch is all about weight transfer from the front to the rear. So, to some degree, lifting the front end improves weight transfer, helps plant the rear tires, and will lower ETs. But, energy used to lift the front end is energy that is not being used to push the car forward. So yea, a big wheelie is sometimes counter productive. It's a fine line to know how much is too much.

Oh, and additional drag is a non-issue. The car is not moving fast enough early in the run for aero drag to be a concern.

 

Although you could get into the physics of it all...here's a good way to tell: Take a look at professional high-end drag racers, and see how many of them consistently lift up on take-off (and win). Those guys (n gals) aren't focused on looks, they're focused on getting down the track. If more are staying down and winning than those who are lifting, then it probably means they don't want lift. And...therefore lifting is a bad idea.

Still looks kick-***, tho.

 

Very true... at the highest levels... where you are dealing with lightweight tube chassis cars, with massive tubs and tires, and purpose built suspensions. But if you look at many sportsman type classes, such as NHRA Super Stock and Stock, where cars are limited to factory chassis and bodies, stock style suspensions, have tire size limits, and carry more weight, they often need a more extreme launch to transfer weight. But as I said, the secret of being successful is finding that correct balance.

 

Lift the wheels with 300 HP? At this point, you would need a floor jack to lift the wheels.

Lifting the wheels can be done in a S197 vert but you will need at least 500RWTQ.
I have gotten a little air under my wheels in my vert on a good launch but not much.

 

You can get VERY, VERY close NA. I have the BMR rear drag suspension and front swaybar delete bracket, and the heavy 17x9 driver side was almost there. I just bought a set of lightweight bogarts, but as folks above have said, I'm more concerned about getting down the track fast and not drawing light under the front tires. But it DOES look very, very cool!
John