Discouraging News or Just a Sales Tactic?
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I just got this email today, from one of the salesmen I've been dealing with at a local dealership. I'm wondering if anyone else has heard anything like this. I was planning on ordering a 'Stang on March 18th. I've also heard that dealerships would be accepting orders on Mustang GTs until late June. Now I don't know what to believe... Here's the email:
Chris,
I just wanted to give you a heads up. We had a meeting this morning, Ford is saying that they are about to hit their build limit for '05 GT's. We will be taking orders till close of business Saturday but on these orders we will not be able to guarantee they will be built. If Ford does not accept the order, customer will have the option to have a 2006 built for the same price but delivery may not be until the end of the year.
What gives? Is this true nationwide or is this just another sly sales tactic to pressure me into placing an order earlier than I intended?
Chris,
I just wanted to give you a heads up. We had a meeting this morning, Ford is saying that they are about to hit their build limit for '05 GT's. We will be taking orders till close of business Saturday but on these orders we will not be able to guarantee they will be built. If Ford does not accept the order, customer will have the option to have a 2006 built for the same price but delivery may not be until the end of the year.
What gives? Is this true nationwide or is this just another sly sales tactic to pressure me into placing an order earlier than I intended?
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Some true, some not!
The '05 model year is starting wind down. There are only two more allocation periods - May build then June/July Balance-out.
April allocation was lower than expected.
The situation is not Ford reaching their limit, because they will keep building them in to the beginning of August. What is being said between the lines is that dealership is looking at their sold order bank compared to their anticipated allocation for the rest of the model year and coming to the conclusion that they are probably not going to get those built, let alone additional orders.
Besides, a dealer cannot "guarantee" build unless they have no or very few orders to be covered. Ford has not given allocation commitments beyond April build. You can search from dealer to dealer, but I would think the one that says "no problem" is the one giving you the line.
The '05 model year is starting wind down. There are only two more allocation periods - May build then June/July Balance-out.
April allocation was lower than expected.
The situation is not Ford reaching their limit, because they will keep building them in to the beginning of August. What is being said between the lines is that dealership is looking at their sold order bank compared to their anticipated allocation for the rest of the model year and coming to the conclusion that they are probably not going to get those built, let alone additional orders.
Besides, a dealer cannot "guarantee" build unless they have no or very few orders to be covered. Ford has not given allocation commitments beyond April build. You can search from dealer to dealer, but I would think the one that says "no problem" is the one giving you the line.
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Originally posted by mstang@March 11, 2005, 12:08 AM
Some true, some not!
The '05 model year is starting wind down. There are only two more allocation periods - May build then June/July Balance-out.
April allocation was lower than expected.
The situation is not Ford reaching their limit, because they will keep building them in to the beginning of August. What is being said between the lines is that dealership is looking at their sold order bank compared to their anticipated allocation for the rest of the model year and coming to the conclusion that they are probably not going to get those built, let alone additional orders.
Besides, a dealer cannot "guarantee" build unless they have no or very few orders to be covered. Ford has not given allocation commitments beyond April build. You can search from dealer to dealer, but I would think the one that says "no problem" is the one giving you the line.
Some true, some not!
The '05 model year is starting wind down. There are only two more allocation periods - May build then June/July Balance-out.
April allocation was lower than expected.
The situation is not Ford reaching their limit, because they will keep building them in to the beginning of August. What is being said between the lines is that dealership is looking at their sold order bank compared to their anticipated allocation for the rest of the model year and coming to the conclusion that they are probably not going to get those built, let alone additional orders.
Besides, a dealer cannot "guarantee" build unless they have no or very few orders to be covered. Ford has not given allocation commitments beyond April build. You can search from dealer to dealer, but I would think the one that says "no problem" is the one giving you the line.
Inventory control manager told me yesterday balance out is August 5th. No more 05's will be built after that date. :bang:
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CelticCub,
We have been going through the wringer, I’m going to post details tonight but the short story is “Region and Allocations†and “Dealer Honestyâ€.
We had to cancel or local order and my wife tracked down a dealer 350 miles away that had allocation, our tri-state (PA, OH, & NY) area is dry!
Just make sure your dealer has allocation and is honest, get the VOC and DORA ASAP.
I’ll post more details tonight I’ve got to G E T.
Dan
We have been going through the wringer, I’m going to post details tonight but the short story is “Region and Allocations†and “Dealer Honestyâ€.
We had to cancel or local order and my wife tracked down a dealer 350 miles away that had allocation, our tri-state (PA, OH, & NY) area is dry!
Just make sure your dealer has allocation and is honest, get the VOC and DORA ASAP.
I’ll post more details tonight I’ve got to G E T.
Dan
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As always, TMS members come through again with helpful information! Thanks for your remarks. Always good to do a reality check with others in the same boat.
I was waiting until the worst Winter weather was over to order. That, and I thought the whole order process would be less problematic once the glut of orders were scheduled, the legal wrangling settled and the supplier woes alleviated. So much for procrastination, eh? It was a good plan... in theory!
I still want an '05, particularly because of the availability of Legend Lime. But I suppose an '06 would be alright. What's that Lime Gold like?
Again, thanks folks. I truly appreciate your input and I look forward to following up with y'all.
I was waiting until the worst Winter weather was over to order. That, and I thought the whole order process would be less problematic once the glut of orders were scheduled, the legal wrangling settled and the supplier woes alleviated. So much for procrastination, eh? It was a good plan... in theory!
I still want an '05, particularly because of the availability of Legend Lime. But I suppose an '06 would be alright. What's that Lime Gold like?
Again, thanks folks. I truly appreciate your input and I look forward to following up with y'all.
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The reason I got an 05' (and put up with all the "fun" of first year problems) is the Legend Lime....
...the lime gold appears (to me) to have more gold than lime...there was on post on here a couple of months back that had actual paint samples attached in .jpg form....I tried the search but couldn't find that exact thread...
Jay
...the lime gold appears (to me) to have more gold than lime...there was on post on here a couple of months back that had actual paint samples attached in .jpg form....I tried the search but couldn't find that exact thread...
Jay
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My dealership said that there wouldn't be any problems getting the GT Vert and V6 Coupe & Vert. But, they wouldn't even take orders for the GT coupe because at this point of the game they don't believe they would get one. Although they cited the total amount of GT's that will be built for the rest of the MY is less then the total orders in for the GT's.
If I was you I'd go in and order an 06 which should hopefully get you in the front of the line for a September build and one of the first 06's off the line
If I was you I'd go in and order an 06 which should hopefully get you in the front of the line for a September build and one of the first 06's off the line
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I ordered a V-6 vert on 3/7 Got a VOC but never received a DORA will they send me one or do I need to ask forit? My Salesman saidit wasordered that night And he said thereis a confirmation order in my jacket. But when I call the robot lady with the info from my VOC I get there is no status . I thinks i'm screwed!
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Thanks again, folks. I'm an optimist by nature, and I sure didn't mean to arouse fears that pending orders would be canceled. I was just curious if I was being fed a line of bull by a zealous salesman!
Normally, I woudn't mind getting an '06, but I'm planning to move to California later this year and I was worried that my relocation would be an obstacle. The salesman even told me that the car could be drop-shipped to a California dealership, but I thought he was just blowing smoke!
And, I would definitely kick myself for passing on the chance to get a Legend Lime GT! B)
Normally, I woudn't mind getting an '06, but I'm planning to move to California later this year and I was worried that my relocation would be an obstacle. The salesman even told me that the car could be drop-shipped to a California dealership, but I thought he was just blowing smoke!
And, I would definitely kick myself for passing on the chance to get a Legend Lime GT! B)
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My dealer said basically the same thing last week. He said that Ford would not be accepting "customer" orders for GT's after this week, only dealer orders for cars to go on the lot and that they would not garantee these to be built untill they (Ford) caught up on the existing orders in the system.
I asked if someone in the know could verify this, but I have not seen an "official" response yet.
At least my order is in, still C/U as of todays call to the robot lady
Jeff
I asked if someone in the know could verify this, but I have not seen an "official" response yet.
At least my order is in, still C/U as of todays call to the robot lady
Jeff
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Originally posted by mustp51@March 11, 2005, 10:46 AM
My dealer said basically the same thing last week. He said that Ford would not be accepting "customer" orders for GT's after this week, only dealer orders for cars to go on the lot and that they would not garantee these to be built untill they (Ford) caught up on the existing orders in the system.
I asked if someone in the know could verify this, but I have not seen an "official" response yet.
At least my order is in, still C/U as of todays call to the robot lady
Jeff
My dealer said basically the same thing last week. He said that Ford would not be accepting "customer" orders for GT's after this week, only dealer orders for cars to go on the lot and that they would not garantee these to be built untill they (Ford) caught up on the existing orders in the system.
I asked if someone in the know could verify this, but I have not seen an "official" response yet.
At least my order is in, still C/U as of todays call to the robot lady
Jeff
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i ordered 1/18.......im the next in line to get pulled and im just waiting to hear it. there was someone who ordered 1/12 and was pulled but someone who ordered in december and is c/u. what a mess. im still thinking i might not even get my car
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Originally posted by elmo771@March 11, 2005, 9:27 AM
I ordered a V-6 vert on 3/7 Got a VOC but never received a DORA will they send me one or do I need to ask forit? My Salesman saidit wasordered that night And he said thereis a confirmation order in my jacket. But when I call the robot lady with the info from my VOC I get there is no status . I thinks i'm screwed!
I ordered a V-6 vert on 3/7 Got a VOC but never received a DORA will they send me one or do I need to ask forit? My Salesman saidit wasordered that night And he said thereis a confirmation order in my jacket. But when I call the robot lady with the info from my VOC I get there is no status . I thinks i'm screwed!
A lot of people have stated there is a different order number on their DORA form what was on the VOC. Once you have the DORA the ERL should give a C/U status. If not there could be a problem. Of course if the dealership doesn't have a DORA for you then it hasn't been submitted yet.
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I talked to Sales Manager at my dealer yesterday and he said that my order that I placed on 10/22/04 is scheduled to be built on the week of 3/21 with an unknown delivery date. He also mentioned that Ford's order backlog is currently > 35,000. A large portion of those are going to Canada though. He didn't say how many.
I guess what I'm trying to say is you may want to wait until they start taking orders for 06's in May.
I guess what I'm trying to say is you may want to wait until they start taking orders for 06's in May.
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i ordered 1/18.......im the next in line to get pulled and im just waiting to hear it. there was someone who ordered 1/12 and was pulled but someone who ordered in december and is c/u. what a mess. im still thinking i might not even get my car
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Originally posted by KenW@March 11, 2005, 11:01 AM
I talked to Sales Manager at my dealer yesterday and he said that my order that I placed on 10/22/04 is scheduled to be built on the week of 3/21 with an unknown delivery date. He also mentioned that Ford's order backlog is currently > 35,000. A large portion of those are going to Canada though. He didn't say how many.
I guess what I'm trying to say is you may want to wait until they start taking orders for 06's in May.
I talked to Sales Manager at my dealer yesterday and he said that my order that I placed on 10/22/04 is scheduled to be built on the week of 3/21 with an unknown delivery date. He also mentioned that Ford's order backlog is currently > 35,000. A large portion of those are going to Canada though. He didn't say how many.
I guess what I'm trying to say is you may want to wait until they start taking orders for 06's in May.