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Old 9/10/04, 08:00 PM
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I just ordered a GT Vert for the wife. When I ordered the car, the pricing wasn't available yet and I can't find any pictures yet. Any help out there? The documentation lists the MSPR for the GT Coupe at $24,845. Does that sound right?

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64D - 17" Rims
14A - Anti-Theft
18G - Interior Upgrade
43A - Side Air Bags
918/140A - Shaker 1000
44L - 5-speed Auto
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Originally posted by Chevyguy@September 10, 2004, 8:03 PM
I just ordered a GT Vert for the wife. When I ordered the car, the pricing wasn't available yet and I can't find any pictures yet. Any help out there? The documentation lists the MSPR for the GT Coupe at $24,845. Does that sound right?

Redfire Convertible
64D - 17" Rims
14A - Anti-Theft
18G - Interior Upgrade
43A - Side Air Bags
918/140A - Shaker 1000
44L - 5-speed Auto
Yeah for a gt coupe with no options that sounds about right. But that GT vert will be around 28 or 29 I would imagine. All vert pics we have seen are either chops or test mules with camo and the top up.. Try Brad's Timeline maybe, or search for 'vert pictures'.
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Thanks, I forgot to list what the MSRP was on the options for mine (just in case someone hasn't seen them)

64D - $395
14A - $390
18G - $895
43A - $390
918/140A - $1,380
44L - $1,000

Total Price - $31,500 with all the administrative stuff in there
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Just out of curiosity, from what source did these prices originate? Are they official from Ford, or just estimates by the dealer? To the best of my knowledge, no one knows the final prices yet as Ford hasn't officially released them. This would be a pretty big thing if you got official prices. Thanks!
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Is this another Military order?
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My purchase order is through the Overseas Military Sales Corporation here in Iraq. Those are the MSRP prices as listed on the contract. Here is exactly what is listed on the contract as MSRP

Mustang GT Coupe $24,845.00
Model Year 2005 Eastimated Uplift $1,330.00
Owner's Protection Plan (7-75,000) $1,595.00
U.S. Inland Freight Charge (Ft Worth, TX) $625.00
Delivery Point Processing $250.00
17" Bright Machined Cast Aluminum Wheels $395.00
Active Anti-Theft System $390.00
Interior Upgrade Package $895.00
Front Seat Side Mounted Air Bags $390.00
Shaker 1000 Audio System $1,380.00
5-Speed Automatic Transmission $1,000.00

Grand total with 7-75,000 protection plan - $33,095.00

I don't know how accurate it is, but I figured since it was on my quote this information was already out, at least at the dealerships. I haven't been home since February though, so I do know.

Hope this helps
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Yes, this is another military order, why?
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yeah, those are the military ESTIMATED prices
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That's interesting since, if I were to order the coupe, I would already have a contract with a price to get my loan.

From the Quote I received today...
*100% Price Protection: The price on your order is locked in until you pick up your new car, even if the facotry raises prices.

I guess that is their loop hole in case prices go up.
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Hey Chevyguy, thanks for serving our country man! Be safe!
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I also think it's interesting that even the overseas sales can't give me a price on the convertible yet, but they have all these prices on the coupe. That is very frustrating!
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Thanks incorrigible, I just can't wait to get home!
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Well the vert doesn't go into production for another ... 4 months. There aren't prices on the coupe, and it is already being produced.

The prices you have are actually probably HIGHER than what they will turn out to be. The "estimated uplift" in the price was over $1500 IIRC, which is 6.25%, ford has said the price increase is around 2-3%
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Grantsdale, what's IIRC? I would love it if these prices were high! When I asked the salesman, he couldn't tell me what the "uplift" was exactly.
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The uplift is their worst case scenario of what the prices will actually be over last years model.

If the price is lower you get the better deal, so it's a win-win for you.

Be safe over there!

Oh yeah, and IIRC is internet slang for “If I Recall Correctly”
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Works for me! Thanks SixtySix.
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Chevy, why would you order a car NOW that won't go into production for another 4 months? Why not order in 4 months when prices will be MUCH lower??
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Chevyguy:

Thanks for helping make the us and world a safer place.May god bless you and your fellow soldiers.

Congrats on your new 2005 mustang :-)
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Goalie, when you purchase through the overseas military program, you're getting a certain amount off the MSRP at the time of delivery plus all the rebates and special offers. My price can, and probably will, go down, but it can't go up. There is also a 14-day period after the actual delivery of the car for me to find a lower price any where at a dealership to get a price match. I could probably still find the same car for close to the same money, but this way there is no guess work or dealer hassle. I just walk in, hand them the check and drive out my car. I hate dealing with dealerships. I've been burnt too many times in the past to trust many of them. They are in the business of making money, but unfortunately there are too many out there trying to pay the light bill on my deal alone.

Nothing against any dealers out there, I'm just a skeptic after what I've seen in the past. Besides, I really don't like that whole "bargaining" dance you have to go through.
Them - Where do you want your car payment to be?
Me - How much is the car?
Them - Do you have a trade in?
Me - How much is the car?
Them - Will you be using your own financing?
Me - How much is the car?
Them - How is your credit rating?
Me - How much is the...never mind. Is there a decent steak-house around here?

And if you do start putting things on paper, then the game starts all over again with them pretending to go talk to their supervisor, checking on rebate offers, and talking to the wholesaler all to see if they can get more money for your car, or reduce the price of the car. The then supervisor comes in a explains to you that this really is the MSPR and they can't sell the car below "X" value or they would be loosing money. But it doesn't stop there, because they still think there are other ways to make a square peg fit into a round hole. And if you get the contract guy, you spend another 30 minutes in there turning down $1,200 alarm systems, $500 undercoating, $350 interior protection, etc... Finally the time comes when you get the deal closed and drive off in your new car. A week later something happens and you take the car back to have it checked out. Only now the people that were waiting on you hand and foot say you need an appointment, and the soonest one the have is Tuesday of next week at 1000, right in the middle of a work day. Okay maybe I do have a small issue with dealerships. Hello, my name is Dave, and I'm dealer-depressed.

The only painless time I've purchased a car was in 2002 when I purchased an Eclispe GTS Convertible. I went on line and got three different quotes from on-line purchase companies. I printed them off, stapled them together with my business card. Walked into my local dealership, asked to see the floor manager. Gave him the paperwork and told him if he could beat the deal to call me, but if he couldn't to just throw the paperwork in the trash. Then I went to the movies with my wife. About half-way through the movie, my cell phone vibrated, and it was the dealership. We went back, picked the color, signed the contract, and drove the car home that night. I was there a little over an hour start to finish, and when the car is dirty I took it by and they washed it for free while I waited. I've yet to hear of a lower price on that particular car, but I'm sure they are out there. It just wasn't worth it to me to haggle all afternoon for a couple hundred bucks.

Anyway, sorry for the long reply, but that's why I purchased it this way.

Cheers!
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Thanks Tom. 16 years in the Marine Corps and I still love my job!


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