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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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When I ordered I ordered from a dealership that is very large and encompasses 3 dealerships in one. I was 19 on their list to get my car pulled. Well after 11 weeks I have moved up to 5. :bang:

The commodities are and have been for the past month 1 GT a week. :bang: At this rate it will still be another 5 weeks before it gets pulled for production. Allotment this month was 14 but all are verts. Very frustrating. :scratch:

Anyone else having these low commodities issues.

Had to vent, I just want my car....... :angry:
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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I've never actually talked to anyone about what their allotments are at my dealership.

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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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1 gt a week! I don't know what you are complaining about. I ordered 2 months ago from a good size dealer and I have only moved up 3 spots.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Stadifer@March 23, 2005, 5:55 PM
I've never actually talked to anyone about what their allotments are at my dealership.


might be smart to ask. You may be getting a 2006 model
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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1 GT a week.
The average US dealer will only get 12 GT's for the whole model year.
I ordered from a small town dealer and he only got 3 GT for the whole 2005 model year.

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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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My dealer just can't get many GT's. I believe they have had 6 so far.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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I wish my dealer could get one. I'm number one of the list. They got one stock GT last November, and that's it! My salesman said there are 4 people in line behind me and the last 3 probably won't get an 05. I WISH we got one a week! :bang:
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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Yeah, one a week sounds good to me.

My dealership said they were getting 1 GT per month on average :notnice:
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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My dealer told me his GT allotments were low but since they are a SVT dealer they were getting a few extra GT's. He said this was because there were no real SVT units to be sold. Not sure this is true but it is what I was told.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by dustindu4+March 23, 2005, 5:48 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dustindu4 @ March 23, 2005, 5:48 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Stadifer@March 23, 2005, 5:55 PM
I've never actually talked to anyone about what their allotments are at my dealership.


might be smart to ask. You may be getting a 2006 model
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Well I'm getting a V6 so I'm not too stressed about getting kicked to next year. I will have to e-mail the fleet manager about that though. They did mention that they had enough allocations this month to get me in. Sooooo I'm guessing sometime in the next week I'll get serialized and have a VIN.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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I thought the alloments were for Mustangs in general? Not GT, V6, or even vert or coupe specific.
Check some of the old threads on allotments. Especially Karpro's posts. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's the way it really works. Maybe Karpro will jump in here.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by stangscuba98a@March 23, 2005, 4:49 PM
The commodities are and have been for the past month 1 GT a week. :bang: At this rate it will still be another 5 weeks before it gets pulled for production. Allotment this month was 14 but all are verts. Very frustrating. :scratch:

Anyone else having these low commodities issues.

Had to vent, I just want my car....... :angry:
1 GT a week is pretty good, but I was told the same thing about only verts for the last week...it stinks, I'm only 3rd in line, and I ordered over 2 months ago, but with only verts being allocated, I'm screwed.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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The allocations are for total mustangs but the commodities dictate mix. For example, I get allocated 4 mustangs but the GT commodity is around 35% only 1 of the 4 will be a GT. This is what is causing all the problems.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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I don't understand why ford would continue to pump out more v6s when the GTs seem to be what everyone wants (or at least have troubles getting). I see quite a few v6s on the lots around here. If I wanted one I wouldn't even bother ordering. It's just hard to find a torch red GT with IUP in a stick. So I guess I'll have to continue to wait it out.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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I think for EPA reasons thay have to keep a certain mix.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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My dealership is apparently only getting 1 GT per month commodity.........but I got my Torch Red commoditized right under the carport at my home.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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I'm also confused as to why they keep pumping out the V6's when they can be found on lots everywhere....
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by jwede@March 24, 2005, 11:32 AM
I think for EPA reasons thay have to keep a certain mix.
Its not for EPA reasons (I think you are thinking of CAFE, corporate average fuel economy). There is CAFE and then there is the gas guzzler tax.

For example, on the 2004 GTO, if you bought the automatic, you had to pay a gas guzzler tax on it because its average fuel economy is 21. The minimum economy set by the governement was 21.5. The GTO with the 6 speed had an average of 29, so no gas guzzler tax. The tax is set per vehicle model. Had the Mustang got less than 21.5, it would have had to pay the tax as well.

Ford could build alot more GT's if they wanted to and probably still not have to worry about CAFE. This is an average of all of their cars fuel economy and they probably would be OK. (trucks and SUV's are not included)

The big reason is that they have forecasts to all their suppliers and these suppliers build the parts and because they use JIT (just in time) manufacturing principles it takes a long time to change things around so the suppliers can build enough parts to build the cars. Obviously we have seen what happened with the IUP and how long that took. These parts could be as miniscule as the GT badges on the fenders all the way up to major road blocks like the limited slip rear end, etc. They certainly have leeway built into their numbers so they can shift their production numbers around, but if you are talking a major shift (major could be 10%) of the ratio of GT's to V6's, thats tough to swing. Lets face it, they underestimated the demand and are trying to remedy it, but it will take a while.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by Flyinlow+March 24, 2005, 11:32 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Flyinlow @ March 24, 2005, 11:32 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-jwede@March 24, 2005, 11:32 AM
I think for EPA reasons thay have to keep a certain mix.
Its not for EPA reasons (I think you are thinking of CAFE, corporate average fuel economy). There is CAFE and then there is the gas guzzler tax.

For example, on the 2004 GTO, if you bought the automatic, you had to pay a gas guzzler tax on it because its average fuel economy is 21. The minimum economy set by the governement was 21.5. The GTO with the 6 speed had an average of 29, so no gas guzzler tax. The tax is set per vehicle model. Had the Mustang got less than 21.5, it would have had to pay the tax as well.

Ford could build alot more GT's if they wanted to and probably still not have to worry about CAFE. This is an average of all of their cars fuel economy and they probably would be OK. (trucks and SUV's are not included)

The big reason is that they have forecasts to all their suppliers and these suppliers build the parts and because they use JIT (just in time) manufacturing principles it takes a long time to change things around so the suppliers can build enough parts to build the cars. Obviously we have seen what happened with the IUP and how long that took. These parts could be as miniscule as the GT badges on the fenders all the way up to major road blocks like the limited slip rear end, etc. They certainly have leeway built into their numbers so they can shift their production numbers around, but if you are talking a major shift (major could be 10%) of the ratio of GT's to V6's, thats tough to swing. Lets face it, they underestimated the demand and are trying to remedy it, but it will take a while.
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That sounds like a reasonable explanation. Thanks for posting!
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by outdoorstom@March 24, 2005, 11:13 AM
I'm also confused as to why they keep pumping out the V6's when they can be found on lots everywhere....
Not in the Northwest... Between Portland & Seattle I believe I was able to find a total of 12 V6's all of them were as base as you can get. The south might have rows and rows of V6 Mustangs but other regions have virtually none.
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