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Old 12/8/04 | 06:38 PM
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"I can say the 2005 is a winner, if you compare its handling characteristics to the latest models you will be surprised that it handles even better than an IRS Cobra. Ford did a great job by improving the rear solid axle suspension to exceed the higher priced SVT IRS."
read the artical this is from...
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/artman/publ...ticle_454.shtml
Old 12/8/04 | 06:55 PM
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wow thats insane...ive never driven a cobra soo i wouldnt know but the 05 GT i drove handles amazing
Old 12/8/04 | 06:56 PM
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this mustang is by far the best ever made... and the next gen se's will be even more amazing
Old 12/8/04 | 06:59 PM
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They say it outperformed the SVT in handling but they don't post any numbers.
Old 12/8/04 | 07:02 PM
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How do they quantitate handling anyway?
Old 12/8/04 | 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by ColoradoStang@December 8, 2004, 8:05 PM
How do they quantitate handling anyway?
slalom, skidpad
Old 12/8/04 | 07:09 PM
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no number?? what numbers would u want
Old 12/8/04 | 07:50 PM
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Cobra 0.90g, 2005 GT 0.88 GT.

dannygat is a troll.
Old 12/8/04 | 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by HairyCanary@December 8, 2004, 8:53 PM
Cobra 0.90g, 2005 GT 0.88 GT.

dannygat is a troll.
Thats not bad, C&D actually lists an 0.89, but test conditions could be different. Can't wait to see what the next Cobra will do with the new chassis and IRS.
Old 12/8/04 | 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by holderca1+December 8, 2004, 6:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (holderca1 @ December 8, 2004, 6:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-HairyCanary@December 8, 2004, 8:53 PM
Cobra 0.90g, 2005 GT 0.88 GT.

dannygat is a troll.
Thats not bad, C&D actually lists an 0.89, but test conditions could be different. Can't wait to see what the next Cobra will do with the new chassis and IRS. [/b][/quote]
In the end they're just numbers either way. Neither the slalom nor the skidpad compare well to real life.

I can't wait to see what Ford does with the next Cobra. I'm saving my pennies...

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Old 12/8/04 | 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by HairyCanary@December 8, 2004, 10:53 PM
Cobra 0.90g, 2005 GT 0.88 GT.

dannygat is a troll.
I wouldn't say troll. A flamer, yes. Not too bright, yes. But not necessarily a troll.
Old 12/8/04 | 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by Grantsdale+December 8, 2004, 7:03 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Grantsdale @ December 8, 2004, 7:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-HairyCanary@December 8, 2004, 10:53 PM
Cobra 0.90g, 2005 GT 0.88 GT.

dannygat is a troll.
I wouldn't say troll. A flamer, yes. Not too bright, yes. But not necessarily a troll. [/b][/quote]
He started identical threads here and on StangNet, which look to be designed to illicit a reaction from anyone who has or likes Cobras. That's a troll in my book . He is trying to spread hate amonst all Stang enthusiasts, and for that I'd like to hang him by his toenails.

/frustrated by people who have to bash everyone else's car

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Old 12/8/04 | 08:27 PM
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I had a chance to take an '05 GT for a spin. No doubt it is greatly improved over the preceeding gen. IMO, it is not quite to the late model Cobra standard as far as handling, or performance which it's obvious. As mentioned in the article, wider wheels, tires, and a few suspension mods, it might be a different story. If those mods make it handle as good as the Cobra or better, then it is great news for the Mustang fans.
Old 12/9/04 | 03:54 AM
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Come on guys, be adult. Just because someone thinks that something is "interesting" and posts it -- like that he read something that implied that the 2005 was better in handling than the cobra, doesn't make him either a troll or a flamer. But your responses may mean that you are being overly sensitive. Look he's probably wrong. But unless you know otherwise, it appears to be an honest mistake that he's sincerely repeating, not creating misinformation. Give people the benefit of the doubt. And it is likely true that the 2005 GT is CLOSER in handling to a Cobra than previous versions. (Which bodes well for the 2007 cobra).
Old 12/9/04 | 06:34 AM
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While not behind the wheel, driving as a passenger gave me a chance to concentrate more on the car behavior and less on driving it
I guess I'm not quite sure what this author is basing this on if he did not even drive it?

if you compare its handling characteristics to the latest models you will be surprised that it handles even better than an IRS Cobra. Ford did a great job by improving the rear solid axle suspension to exceed the higher priced SVT IRS.
Handling characteristics based on being in the passenger seat?? Because of this, this article seems useless doesn't it?

Based on my real world experience, as I have posted previously, the '05 is very good on ORC, but does not exceed the IRS equipped Cobra IMHO. I consistently caught up to and passed the '05 each time I was on the track. The '05 never passed me. The '05 was being piloted by SVTOA driving instructors.

I have a NA '99 that dynos at 288 RWHP.

Until someone can post actuall ORC laps times I will believe what I experienced myself ...

And yes, I will be adding a new gen Mustang to my stable ....
Old 12/9/04 | 07:15 AM
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Do you think Dannygat even has a car?
Old 12/9/04 | 07:29 AM
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If I remember well, MT posted a SLALOM speed which was higher for the 2005 than the Cobra...
Old 12/9/04 | 07:48 AM
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I hope it is better than the current Cobra. That would mean the next Cobra will be even better (which I expect it to be).
Old 12/9/04 | 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by dke@December 9, 2004, 4:57 AM
Come on guys, be adult. Just because someone thinks that something is "interesting" and posts it -- like that he read something that implied that the 2005 was better in handling than the cobra, doesn't make him either a troll or a flamer. But your responses may mean that you are being overly sensitive. Look he's probably wrong. But unless you know otherwise, it appears to be an honest mistake that he's sincerely repeating, not creating misinformation. Give people the benefit of the doubt. And it is likely true that the 2005 GT is CLOSER in handling to a Cobra than previous versions. (Which bodes well for the 2007 cobra).
Adult? I'm an adult. 53. Don't know about a troll, but a flamer, yes. Everyone has their own opinion, and a right to express it. How you express it is something else.
But If you don't like a certain Mustang, fine. Don't come on here bashing V6 owners. They are still Mustangs, and this is a Mustang site.
Old 12/9/04 | 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by JRTMustang@December 9, 2004, 6:32 AM
If I remember well, MT posted a SLALOM speed which was higher for the 2005 than the Cobra...
I did not see any valid comparison tests with MT. They tested a Cobra convertible, not a coupe.


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