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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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Ford owns the rights to use the "Boss" name. Boss Shinoda owns the rights to the "Boss Shinoda" name. There is no red tape here.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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I think that Ford will come out with a higher displacement engine in the Cobra, now whether that is 5.0, 5.4, or whatever, remains to be seen. If Ford plans on moving the Cobra 'upscale', then it will want to differentiate the powerplants a little more.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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way too much money for too little power.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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I don't think the 5.0 will appear in the Mustang anytime soon.

As boomer mentioned Ford has to use a complex "spray bore" method to get the bore bigger. Not feasible for mass production

I didn't know this for a long time, but the 4.6 was originally designed to be used in FWD application as well, which required a tighter bore spacing, limiting the amount a cylinder can be bored out.

The only way ford will go to a larger displacement in the Mustang, is with the 5.4 or the upcoming 6.2L hurricane motor IMO
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Shelby Roadster@August 24, 2004, 7:31 PM
Ford owns the rights to use the "Boss" name. Boss Shinoda owns the rights to the "Boss Shinoda" name. There is no red tape here.
Cool!

Thanks for clearing that up!

Edit:

^ Having some problems posting Galaxie?!
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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Galaxie, either you need to lay off the caffeince for awhile or get a better internet provider!
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by TomServo92@August 24, 2004, 8:53 PM
Galaxie, either you need to lay off the caffeince for awhile or get a better internet provider!
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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a 5.0 might be in a cobra R or saleen
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by charles@August 24, 2004, 10:31 PM
a 5.0 might be in a cobra R or saleen
Highly doubt any Ford will have the 5.0 in it.

The Cobra R could have the Hurricane if anything (doubt they'd use the 427 V10)
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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i dont think they would design an engine put it in a mustang prototype and then just sell it from ford racing
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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by the way faimly guy was just on oh yeah!
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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I disagree, I think a fairly large production SE could see a 5.0 ... something along the lines of the Mach 1 as far as numbers go. Not too numerous, but enough that you could get one. 5.0 is a magic number with Mustangs, as you all know. Right now they're evoking the '67s, but I have a feeling even more nostalgia is coming, and the 302 will be a part of that.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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Except that 5.0 hasn't been a magical number for a mustang in nearly 10 years. And that it wasn't called a 5.0 until about 15 years into it's history. It would also depend on the cost of the motor. I don't see them using the cammer motor as it is now. I thought it was not strong enough to be warranteed for 100k miles or something like that. And at $14k I don't think it would make a very likely motor choice.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 10:12 PM
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You can say 5.0 can't possibly be done and they will say it over and over again....... The 5.0 based on the modular engine is not going to happen. I'm not quite sure why a 225 hp engine was so legendary anyway.

The modular's days are soon numbered.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 10:17 PM
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Because it lasted nearly as long as the chassis.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Kevin says no so I say no! Ford would basically be admitting they made a mistake dropping displacement.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by svtdriver@August 24, 2004, 10:20 PM
Because it lasted nearly as long as the chassis.
My '88 5.0 was a nightmare.

It plugged up all 4 cats. That was a $700 cost to Ford (not me though, emmissions!). Then the floor pan started cracking under my fat butt, so I sold it to a 19 year old girl who paid me $9500 cash for it.

Where a 19 year old girl gets $9500 cash in 1991 is, well, interesting to think about anyhow.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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The 4.6 ain't broke, so don't fix it! :angry:
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 11:41 PM
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Going to the 5.0 defeats the purpose of the modular family as the pistons no longer become usable by other engines. Also, there are warranty/durability issues with the larger bore.
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by kevinb120@August 24, 2004, 10:15 PM
You can say 5.0 can't possibly be done and they will say it over and over again....... The 5.0 based on the modular engine is not going to happen. I'm not quite sure why a 225 hp engine was so legendary anyway.

The modular's days are soon numbered.
Ignorant statement on your part regarding the 5.0L. Perhaps you know more more/better than Hot Rod magazine or FFMM,etc.etc.

It is not the factory horsepower rating. It is how well the engine responds to modifications per dollars invested. With engine longevity as an additional factor/bonus. My 5.0L has 133,000 miles and still runs quick. Bearings, rods, crank, & forged pistons are still factory issue.
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