2005-2009 Mustang Information on The S197 {Gen1}

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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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Will the new Mustang have a full chassis or will it be another, "buy Mustang on Friday, spend Saturday having subframe connectors welded in?"
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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anybody know????
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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patience young grasshopper, one hour on the forums is but a twinkling in the greater universe, people don't live on here ya know
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by NewPony05@September 22, 2004, 1:56 PM
patience young grasshopper, one hour on the forums is but a twinkling in the greater universe, people don't live on here ya know
Sorry. I'm used to the forum that I moderate on another site. It is incredibly fast - like instant messaging with a multiple of people instead of a few.

I will develop paitence.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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The new stang chassis is much stiffer than the previous model...by around 50% I believe. Having said that, I'm almost positive it is still a unibody design and not a "full frame". I'm sure the new chassis is rigid enough to handle considerable abuse and allow the car to handle better, but I'm sure it could benefit from the subframe connectors. The aftermarket should have some out soon.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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Do you think Ford will add subframe connects on the factory line for the verts?
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by oldskl427@September 22, 2004, 2:49 PM
The new stang chassis is much stiffer than the previous model...by around 50% I believe. Having said that, I'm almost positive it is still a unibody design and not a "full frame". I'm sure the new chassis is rigid enough to handle considerable abuse and allow the car to handle better, but I'm sure it could benefit from the subframe connectors. The aftermarket should have some out soon.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by Paris MkVI@September 22, 2004, 2:58 PM
Do you think Ford will add subframe connects on the factory line for the verts?
I would think so. I know Chevy did that on the convertible F-body's. I mean you lose the structural rigidity of a hard top, they have to add connectors to make up for that don't they?
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by NewPony05@September 22, 2004, 9:56 PM
patience young grasshopper, one hour on the forums is but a twinkling in the greater universe, people don't live on here ya know
i live here.....:mellow:
not sure about the rest of you guys... but this is MY LIFE....
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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The '05 Stang is a unibody, but it has what you could call "frame rails" stamped in the floor pan which run the entire lenght of the floor pan.

I belive that what Ford said is that the Vert will be 50% stiffer than the 99-04 vert but the coupe is around 25% stiffer than the 99-04 coupe. I know that the first articles said 50%, but they didn't give any other specifics. In one of the later interviews with THT the vert vs. coupe improvements in unibody stiffness are clarified.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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V10 is correct. According to information presented by the Mustang engineers at the MCA 40th, the chassis has 2 rails that essentially perform the function of subframe connectors. We were told something to the effect of "You don't have to add subframe connectors because we put them in for you."
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 08:41 PM
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Hau Thai-Tang, the chief engineer for the project, is a chassis engineer.....that definately bodes well for that aspect of the car.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by Dan@September 22, 2004, 8:44 PM
Hau Thai-Tang, the chief engineer for the project, is a chassis engineer.....that definately bodes well for that aspect of the car.
Ba-da-bing, dude!
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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I talked to Steeda and they did a measurement on the chassis strength. The said the 05 chassis is as strong as a fox body with a 6 point cage. That will be sweet.
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Old Sep 22, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by nthe10s@September 22, 2004, 11:09 PM
I talked to Steeda and they did a measurement on the chassis strength. The said the 05 chassis is as strong as a fox body with a 6 point cage. That will be sweet.
I called Steeda and the guy there wouldn't tell me anything! He didn't even admit that they had a Mustang for R&D.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 05:53 AM
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I am a Steeda Distributor
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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I doubt the fresh sheet, fully modern S197 will need all the crutches, bandaids and supports to truss up the ancient Fox underpinnings of the current car. Should be much stiffer in all modes (bending, torsion, etc.) than the current Stang right out of the box.

While further bracing may give some incremental advantage, I think the difference may be much smaller than seen on the current chassis and one may have to balance the price and added weight vs potential small realized benefits.
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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The cahssis is 50% stiffer than, and you are correct with your comments about Hau Thai-Tang.

For the Convertible, the only added brace is a K brace (similiar to waht BMW does)
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Old Sep 23, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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The car should be really solid. If you road race, you might want to add front and rear strut tower brace. This usually tightens up the car slightly and is bolt on for easy installation.
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