How much for 12's
1/25/11 | 12:51 PM
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How much for 12's
I'm coming from 12 years experience with turbocharged all-wheel-drive Mitsubishi's so please forgive my mustang ignorance. I'm on my second 2000 Mustang GT now and I love it as a daily driver. I was thinking that I would probably be content with it once I'm in the 12's. I'm assuming it will be a much larger task to accomplish that on the Mustang than it was on my Mitsubishi's, but if its not too costly I'd give it a shot.
With the Mitsu already being turbo AWD it was only a matter of $2000 worth of bolt-ons and I was there. But with all avenues considered, what kinda cash am I looking at for my GT?
It's got a low mileage motor on a new stock clutch. EVERYTHING is stock except the cold air intake. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
With the Mitsu already being turbo AWD it was only a matter of $2000 worth of bolt-ons and I was there. But with all avenues considered, what kinda cash am I looking at for my GT?
It's got a low mileage motor on a new stock clutch. EVERYTHING is stock except the cold air intake. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
1/25/11 | 02:04 PM
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maybe not lots.
For $3K you can get the trickflow top end kit
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-K519-390-375
which says it'll get you to around 390hp. I think that might be slightly optimistic, but even if it only gets you to 350, i'd be willing to bet you could get into the mid 12s no problem. I've heard of stock terminators getting into the mid 12s witth their 400ish hp, but they also weigh alot more with their DOHC heads and blowers.
suspension and tires play a key role too. some Lower control arms, and drag springs should be good for a few tenths. I've driven petes GT with the MGW shifter and man, talk about short throws!
if you dont just want to drop three grand on the motor just like that, maybe do the suspension upgrades and get as much weight reduction (racing seats, rear seat delete, etc) as you can while trying to see just how fast you can go with the stock motor. I ran an eembarassing 14.45 (2.0+ 60' time) when i first dragged my bullitt. I had a little bit more power than a stock GT, but nothing extra special going on. I put on a JLT CAI, removed the rear/pass seats, spare tire, front swaybar, put in a steeda triax shifter and put on some better tires and knocked it down to a (still embarassing) 14.0 with a WORSE 60' time. weight reduction, tires and a shifter proved to be very worth it. now seeing as you've been driving faster cars for much longer, you probably wont have as many problems with driver abilities like i do.
Evil Capri's Mach 1 is in the high 12s IIRC, and (please, correct me if i'm wrong) he's spent most of his time building a solid suspension and removing weight, rather than just dumping horsepower all over the place. power is one thing, getting it to the ground is another (though with your evo awd experience, I'm sure you know that lol)
Realistically i dont think it'll take more than 300ish hp, less weight and a well sorted suspension setup to get you there. 300 is just about attainable with full bolt ons (CAI, TB/plenum, full exhaust, pullies and a tune)
(i'm just doing a quick google for these prices, you can probably find better, especially secondhand)
the bbk throttlebody/plenum combo is $270
pypes longtube headers are $380
mid pipes and catbacks can be found for around 3-400 each
my steeda triax cost me around $150
non adjustable Maximum Motorsportss LCAs are $340
Eibachs drag spring kit is $250
and you already said you have a CAI. Throw in a tune (figure $300 or so)and you'll be right around 300hp
thats about $2500 of parts right there and I really think that will get you **** close, if not into the 12s. If you can drive better than my slow *** lol and take the spare seats out for a drag day, as well as the spare and any other junk in the car, and i really think you'll be able to do it. the nice thing about this way is you can add parts over time, little by little, and be able to accurately judge the incremental improvements in performance over time
sorry for the longwinded post, but i hope this helps at least a little until someone with more experience than i can chime in
also, welcome to The Mustang Source. Start a thread in the intro section, I'm sure theres more than a few people here who'd like to see your Evo
For $3K you can get the trickflow top end kit
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-K519-390-375
which says it'll get you to around 390hp. I think that might be slightly optimistic, but even if it only gets you to 350, i'd be willing to bet you could get into the mid 12s no problem. I've heard of stock terminators getting into the mid 12s witth their 400ish hp, but they also weigh alot more with their DOHC heads and blowers.
suspension and tires play a key role too. some Lower control arms, and drag springs should be good for a few tenths. I've driven petes GT with the MGW shifter and man, talk about short throws!
if you dont just want to drop three grand on the motor just like that, maybe do the suspension upgrades and get as much weight reduction (racing seats, rear seat delete, etc) as you can while trying to see just how fast you can go with the stock motor. I ran an eembarassing 14.45 (2.0+ 60' time) when i first dragged my bullitt. I had a little bit more power than a stock GT, but nothing extra special going on. I put on a JLT CAI, removed the rear/pass seats, spare tire, front swaybar, put in a steeda triax shifter and put on some better tires and knocked it down to a (still embarassing) 14.0 with a WORSE 60' time. weight reduction, tires and a shifter proved to be very worth it. now seeing as you've been driving faster cars for much longer, you probably wont have as many problems with driver abilities like i do.
Evil Capri's Mach 1 is in the high 12s IIRC, and (please, correct me if i'm wrong) he's spent most of his time building a solid suspension and removing weight, rather than just dumping horsepower all over the place. power is one thing, getting it to the ground is another (though with your evo awd experience, I'm sure you know that lol)
Realistically i dont think it'll take more than 300ish hp, less weight and a well sorted suspension setup to get you there. 300 is just about attainable with full bolt ons (CAI, TB/plenum, full exhaust, pullies and a tune)
(i'm just doing a quick google for these prices, you can probably find better, especially secondhand)
the bbk throttlebody/plenum combo is $270
pypes longtube headers are $380
mid pipes and catbacks can be found for around 3-400 each
my steeda triax cost me around $150
non adjustable Maximum Motorsportss LCAs are $340
Eibachs drag spring kit is $250
and you already said you have a CAI. Throw in a tune (figure $300 or so)and you'll be right around 300hp
thats about $2500 of parts right there and I really think that will get you **** close, if not into the 12s. If you can drive better than my slow *** lol and take the spare seats out for a drag day, as well as the spare and any other junk in the car, and i really think you'll be able to do it. the nice thing about this way is you can add parts over time, little by little, and be able to accurately judge the incremental improvements in performance over time
sorry for the longwinded post, but i hope this helps at least a little until someone with more experience than i can chime in
also, welcome to The Mustang Source. Start a thread in the intro section, I'm sure theres more than a few people here who'd like to see your Evo
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1/26/11 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by future9er24
maybe not lots.
For $3K you can get the trickflow top end kit
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-K519-390-375
which says it'll get you to around 390hp. I think that might be slightly optimistic, but even if it only gets you to 350, i'd be willing to bet you could get into the mid 12s no problem. I've heard of stock terminators getting into the mid 12s witth their 400ish hp, but they also weigh alot more with their DOHC heads and blowers.
suspension and tires play a key role too. some Lower control arms, and drag springs should be good for a few tenths. I've driven petes GT with the MGW shifter and man, talk about short throws!
if you dont just want to drop three grand on the motor just like that, maybe do the suspension upgrades and get as much weight reduction (racing seats, rear seat delete, etc) as you can while trying to see just how fast you can go with the stock motor. I ran an eembarassing 14.45 (2.0+ 60' time) when i first dragged my bullitt. I had a little bit more power than a stock GT, but nothing extra special going on. I put on a JLT CAI, removed the rear/pass seats, spare tire, front swaybar, put in a steeda triax shifter and put on some better tires and knocked it down to a (still embarassing) 14.0 with a WORSE 60' time. weight reduction, tires and a shifter proved to be very worth it. now seeing as you've been driving faster cars for much longer, you probably wont have as many problems with driver abilities like i do.
Evil Capri's Mach 1 is in the high 12s IIRC, and (please, correct me if i'm wrong) he's spent most of his time building a solid suspension and removing weight, rather than just dumping horsepower all over the place. power is one thing, getting it to the ground is another (though with your evo awd experience, I'm sure you know that lol)
Realistically i dont think it'll take more than 300ish hp, less weight and a well sorted suspension setup to get you there. 300 is just about attainable with full bolt ons (CAI, TB/plenum, full exhaust, pullies and a tune)
(i'm just doing a quick google for these prices, you can probably find better, especially secondhand)
the bbk throttlebody/plenum combo is $270
pypes longtube headers are $380
mid pipes and catbacks can be found for around 3-400 each
my steeda triax cost me around $150
non adjustable Maximum Motorsportss LCAs are $340
Eibachs drag spring kit is $250
and you already said you have a CAI. Throw in a tune (figure $300 or so)and you'll be right around 300hp
thats about $2500 of parts right there and I really think that will get you **** close, if not into the 12s. If you can drive better than my slow *** lol and take the spare seats out for a drag day, as well as the spare and any other junk in the car, and i really think you'll be able to do it. the nice thing about this way is you can add parts over time, little by little, and be able to accurately judge the incremental improvements in performance over time
sorry for the longwinded post, but i hope this helps at least a little until someone with more experience than i can chime in
also, welcome to The Mustang Source. Start a thread in the intro section, I'm sure theres more than a few people here who'd like to see your Evo
For $3K you can get the trickflow top end kit
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TFS-K519-390-375
which says it'll get you to around 390hp. I think that might be slightly optimistic, but even if it only gets you to 350, i'd be willing to bet you could get into the mid 12s no problem. I've heard of stock terminators getting into the mid 12s witth their 400ish hp, but they also weigh alot more with their DOHC heads and blowers.
suspension and tires play a key role too. some Lower control arms, and drag springs should be good for a few tenths. I've driven petes GT with the MGW shifter and man, talk about short throws!
if you dont just want to drop three grand on the motor just like that, maybe do the suspension upgrades and get as much weight reduction (racing seats, rear seat delete, etc) as you can while trying to see just how fast you can go with the stock motor. I ran an eembarassing 14.45 (2.0+ 60' time) when i first dragged my bullitt. I had a little bit more power than a stock GT, but nothing extra special going on. I put on a JLT CAI, removed the rear/pass seats, spare tire, front swaybar, put in a steeda triax shifter and put on some better tires and knocked it down to a (still embarassing) 14.0 with a WORSE 60' time. weight reduction, tires and a shifter proved to be very worth it. now seeing as you've been driving faster cars for much longer, you probably wont have as many problems with driver abilities like i do.
Evil Capri's Mach 1 is in the high 12s IIRC, and (please, correct me if i'm wrong) he's spent most of his time building a solid suspension and removing weight, rather than just dumping horsepower all over the place. power is one thing, getting it to the ground is another (though with your evo awd experience, I'm sure you know that lol)
Realistically i dont think it'll take more than 300ish hp, less weight and a well sorted suspension setup to get you there. 300 is just about attainable with full bolt ons (CAI, TB/plenum, full exhaust, pullies and a tune)
(i'm just doing a quick google for these prices, you can probably find better, especially secondhand)
the bbk throttlebody/plenum combo is $270
pypes longtube headers are $380
mid pipes and catbacks can be found for around 3-400 each
my steeda triax cost me around $150
non adjustable Maximum Motorsportss LCAs are $340
Eibachs drag spring kit is $250
and you already said you have a CAI. Throw in a tune (figure $300 or so)and you'll be right around 300hp
thats about $2500 of parts right there and I really think that will get you **** close, if not into the 12s. If you can drive better than my slow *** lol and take the spare seats out for a drag day, as well as the spare and any other junk in the car, and i really think you'll be able to do it. the nice thing about this way is you can add parts over time, little by little, and be able to accurately judge the incremental improvements in performance over time
sorry for the longwinded post, but i hope this helps at least a little until someone with more experience than i can chime in
also, welcome to The Mustang Source. Start a thread in the intro section, I'm sure theres more than a few people here who'd like to see your Evo
